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White People, You Will Never Look Suspicious Like Trayvon Martin

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Mr.Tea
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When you weigh 250 lbs, are behind the wheel of an SUV and are packing a handgun and the other guy is 100 lbs lighter, on foot and packing a bag of candy and bottle of iced tea, it's pretty difficult to see where "self defence" would have come in.


Maysie
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It's Racism 101, Mr Tea. As American as apple pie.

Black man in a hoodie = dangerous. No exceptions.

Bobby Rush gets kicked off House floor for wearing a hoodie for Trayvon


laine lowe
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And to think this racist tragedy ouccured in a county named after a First Nation forced off their lands.

Racism runs so deep in white western culture, it's hard to imagine erradicating it, especially in this new era where demonizing and killing "those people" has become a duty and right to protect values of entitlement.

Looking and condemning racism, one incident at a time, doesn't seem to help at all sadly enough. But I have to say that the whole ridiculous hoodie focus was tackled by caller/e-mailer to the CBC The Current pretty spot on: justifying killing a black man for wearing a hoodie is akin to justifying a woman's rape for wearing a short skirt.


Maysie
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Yes, laine. This photo was circulating on FB that expresses exactly that.


Slumberjack
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Much of the mainstream media comment sections following articles relating to this crime, especially the US based outlets, are similar to the type of thought processes found in the Turner Diaries.


RevolutionPlease
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C'mon, don't failsafe the "other" What do you think? At least "manslaughter"? No? I'm out. So sad. I dun know what to choose? Forever Young? Thinking...

Maysie
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Left Turn
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What every Black man in America must learn

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The murder of Trayvon Martin in a gated community in Florida has dramatized the depths of racism in U.S. society. Trayvon was young, Black and male--that was enough for neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman to decide he was "suspicious," to stalk him and eventually to pull the trigger.

African American families understand that Trayvon's fate could happen to their own children. That's why so many young Black men remember the time they had "the talk"--when family or friends tried to prepare them for dealing with racism in general and the police in particular.

Here, SocialistWorker.org contributors Derron Thweatt, Khury Petersen-Smith and Brian Jones remember their own experiences with "the talk"--and how the experience of racism shaped their lives.


Maysie
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Travon Martin and Walking While Black: Racialicious

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Keep moving.

Don't stop.

Don't make eye contact.

I have felt like Trayvon Martin. Many many times while walking at night, being pulled over by police, being told that I'm not supposed to ‘be.' My ‘being' in a space has caused questions, concerns, suspicions. In the back of my mind I always wondered if there would be a reckoning. If my ‘being' would become so intolerable to someone that they would try to end my existence rather than engage in a conversation. The only difference between me and Trayvon is that I am still here and he is not. Still, the question lurks around the subconscious when I walk home every night from the subway and a police car slows down alongside me. The squad car slows down. Eyeballs examine my ‘being,' noticing any signs of anger, insanity, guilt. I continue walking, pretending to be oblivious. In most cases this is the best sign of innocence: by pretending to not notice.

Unlike myself, Trayvon physically noticed the accusation. He noticed the suspicion and dared to walk toward it. Stare at it, as he spoke with his girlfriend over the phone. Curious, as to who could be staring at him so intently he took a step in Zimmerman's direction. Staring directly at George Zimmerman before quickly walking away.

 


NDPP
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White Supremacy - An Interview with Davey D

http://www.voxunion.com/white-supremacy-an-interview-with-davey-d/

"..It is a system that is predicated upon the dehumanization of all those who are not white. It is a system used by the elite; the folks in control of politics, commerce and society - global society. They're able to do that by systematically pitting us against one another, colonizing and the whole nine. This keeps it in place..."


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bigguy1
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So a hispanic male shoots a black youth and it is automatically a racial issue? People need to leave their agendas at the door. Did this youth deserve to get shot? No. Did the person GZ do the right thing? No. Should he have been charged with murder? YES. Was it a racial shooting? NO. It was a dumbass with a gun who wanted to play cops and robbers.

I find it funny how no one has mentioned that one of Mr. Zimmerman's best friends is back. This is a guy who made a very bad desicion and should pay for it. It is not a black and white isuue as the Rev Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson would like everyone to believe to promote their own agendas and get face time in the media.

 

It's unfortunate that the racial angle is overshadowing this tragic event.


Freedom 55
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bigguy1 wrote:

I find it funny how no one has mentioned that one of Mr. Zimmerman's best friends is back.

 

Probably because none of us even knew one of his best friends was away.


Catchfire
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Hahahaah @ F55. Anyway, bigguy1 has become the latest in a long line of sacrifices on this, the most holiest of days. Prayer service can now cntinue as usual.


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Catchfire
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NDPP
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NDPP
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Tape Shows [Black] Teen Being Shocked 31 Times (and vid)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/12/judge-rotenberg-center-trial_n_...

"A jury in Dedham Mass, saw video this week of an 18-year old boy being tied down and shocked 31 times as he screamed in pain. The footage was presented by lawyers of Andre McCollins, who is suing the Judge Rotenberg Center for developmentally disabled students, which treated him in part by attaching electrodes to his body and shocking him. The incident, recorded on video took place in 2002 after McCollins refused to take off his coat.."

Kids Put on Electric Chair

http://www.thepeoplespaths.net/articles/bschools.htm

Under White-Supremacist rule in North America, 'shock' therapy has a history..


Boom Boom
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Being Florida, the Zimmerman trial will be televised. The new lawyer is trying to put a lid on the media speculation and what can be shown. I've watched most of the coverage so far.


MegB
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Hoodeet wrote:

milo204 wrote:

this is pretty much the same thing as the klan.  A bunch of armed, aggressive racist white guys hunting down and murdering innocent black people.  

Back then theyd say he looked at a white girl, now they just say he's "looking about"....

Hoodeet (JW)

Actually, there's another take on this story.  George Zimmerman's mother is a Latina immigrant. 

This is a red herring.  Anyone with an understanding of racial politics in Florida wil understand that having a Latino background might be a contributor to the racist profiling Zimmerman did. 

In Florida, where the Hispanic population is, or is descended from, right-wing anti-Castro supporters of Batista, Latinos are members of the economic and political ruling class.  They have a great deal of influence in Congress and the Senate, and run much of South Flordida.  At a more grassroots level, the animosity of Hispanics towards African Americans is well-documented and supported by the Republican government in that state.

This is not East L.A.


Catchfire
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Zimmerman must surrender; bond revoked

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A judge on Friday revoked the bond of the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with murdering Trayvon Martin and ordered him returned to jail within 48 hours, saying George Zimmerman and his wife misled the court about how much money they had available when his bond was set at $150,000.

Prosecutors claim Zimmerman had $135,000 available that had been raised by a website he set up. Zimmerman's wife, Shellie, testified at the bond hearing in April that they had limited funds available since she was a nursing student and Zimmerman wasn't working.

"He can't sit back and obtain the benefit of a lower bond based upon those material falsehoods," said Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester when he made his ruling.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara said the fact that Zimmerman and his wife never used the money for anything indicated "there was no deceit." Since his release in late April, Zimmerman has been staying at an undisclosed location for his safety.

Prosecutor Bernie De la Rionda described the Zimmermans' testimony as "misleading."

"This court was led to believe they didn't have a single penny," said De la Rionda. "It was misleading and I don't know what words to use other than it was a blatant lie."


MegB
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I'm not sure which is more disturbing - that he could raise $130,000 or that the bond was set at only $150,000.


Bacchus
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PLus he deliberately hid a second passport with his wife's help. The judge has recommended his wife be charged. It was funny to watch him go on and on about their misdeeds in hiding things, even discussing them in prison recorded phonecalls


Slumberjack
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Here in Nova Scotia too:

Consumer racial profiling is an issue facing many Nova Scotians, especially Aboriginal and African Canadians. 

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Many of the respondents had personal tales to tell about racial profiling. African Nova Scotians often reported being followed by security personnel, or being the target of offensive behaviour or language.

For commerce it's simply become unprofitable now as opposed to what it is and was all along, which is repugnant to say the least.  The ceeb took pains though to sugar coat it as best they can.


onlinediscountanvils
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LeVar Burton explains his ritual to prevent being shot by police

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Actor and director LeVar Burton explained Monday on CNN that he follows a particular procedure every time he is stopped by police to avoid a potentially deadly confrontation. He removes his hat and sunglasses, rolls down his window, and puts out his hands to show he is not armed.

“I do that because I live in America,” Burton added.


Catchfire
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I found it rather telling that Tim Wise, as great as he is, all but cut off the black pundits on the panel telling stories of their experience so that he could anecdotalize us all with a real story of how "heavy" LeVar's lesson truly is.

Also, I loved this tweet of CNN's offensive fucking "debate":

 

from @CNN tonight: " N word or cracker...which is more offensive?". probably the one you won't spell out, you fucking hacks. just a guess.

— el-p (@therealelp) July 2, 2013

lagatta
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Cracker is offensive from a CLASS standpoint (like "White Trash"), not a racial one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_%28pejorative%29 Most N-word people back then were assumed to be at least as poor as the crackers.

I believe in the song about Huey long referred to in the wiki entry, "Crackers" were White, English-speaking, Protestant poor rurals. In Louisiana (as I recall) the term excluded Cajuns and Creoles (of any racial mix) as well as Black people and Indigenous people. And of course, the wealthy White Establishment.


Kaitlin McNabb
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Tim Wise, grr *shakes fist*

Word to the Wise: Unpacking the White Privilege of Tim Wise

In the case of Tim Wise and other leading white anti-racists, we can accurately pin-point the state of the anti-racist movement by unpacking the white privileges they, themselves, hold and benefit from.

The first of these white privileges is one I have already addressed: The ability to paraphrase and/or otherwise exploit the analysis of Black liberation struggle and have it received by others as though it were their own. In the past decade or so, there has grown a cottage industry of books written by white people talking about their whiteness and their awareness of racism. When these white authors fail to acknowledge the debt they owe to the blood struggle of people of color in this country as they often do, they practice a form of racism that keeps that history erased from the consciousness of this country. This enables the white establishment to bypass Black people and hold up their own as authorities on the race question.

 

Someone tweeted to CNN during that, that "if cracker is the worst thing I can be called, I've got it pretty good." Step it up CNN, you're drunk.


RevolutionPlease
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-simmons/just-in-case-george-zimme_b_3566397.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003&ir=Black%20Voices

 

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Whatever decision they make, is a decision that we must live with, whether we like it or not. Whether George Zimmerman is found innocent or guilty by the jury, I am firm believer that all of us live by karmic law, and he will ultimately be punished for the death of Trayvon, no matter what.


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