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"...While Western 'imagineered' ideals of 'democracy', 'freedom' and 'human rights' will be used to mask Aung San Suu Kyi's ascension into power, the underlying agenda is one of Wall Street-London hegemony across Asia, the premeditated encirclement and subsequent containment of China, and the full-scale regional exploitation of Asia and its resources by Western corporate-financier interests."
"...While Western 'imagineered' ideals of 'democracy', 'freedom' and 'human rights' will be used to mask Aung San Suu Kyi's ascension into power, the underlying agenda is one of Wall Street-London hegemony across Asia, the premeditated encirclement and subsequent containment of China, and the full-scale regional exploitation of Asia and its resources by Western corporate-financier interests."
Anyone who would write such trash knows almost nothing about the tragedy that has been the lot of the many different ethnic groups in Burma. What ignorant trash. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting such lies and attacks on someone who has endured so much pain.
What the hell is the argument here? Does anybody really believe that the Myanmarian junta, a cabal of bloodsoaked multibazillionaire fascist generals, is "anti-imperialist"?
Or that keeping that junta in power is somehow "sticking it to The Man"?
The junta is not socialist. it was never going to build socialism. And this is exactly the kind of situation where "anti-imperialism" goes off the rails, and gets twisted into the old Mafia notion that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
Anti-imperialists(and I consider myself one as well)can do better than that.
It will be possible now to organize a true anti-imperialist Left movement in Myanmar...there will now be space...there would never be that space if the generals had prevailed.
"...some analysts, however, say Mrs Suu Kyi has been reduced to a mere token who the regime no longer fears, and is intentionally being permitted to win a seat because her election is worth the lifting of US sanctions. Washington hopes her victory will be the first of many democratic changes, so the US can increase its economic and political influence in the Buddhist majority, former British colony.
By staging the election and allowing other freedoms, the regime has risen to its most powerful position on the world stage, attracting politicians, businessmen and others from America, Europe and elsewhere. Columbia University professor Joseph E Stiglitz visited in 2009 and suggested 'removing the sanctions that have now become an impediment to the country's 'transformation.'
The sanctions include a ban on most international banking activity, rendering credit cards and bank transfers useless.."
Burma calls on US and EU to honour 'promise' to lift sanctions
Burma has called on the United States and European to honour its "promise" to lift economic sanctions after staging a series of by-elections in which Aung San Suu Kyi won a landslide victory
"...Resource-rich Burma is subject to strict economic sanctions by Western countries. Big companies - and particularly big oil companies - are lobbying hard to have those sactions lifted. And Canada hopes to have its firms front and centre when the great barbecue begins.
The fact that Burma's military-backed leaders allowed any opening towards democracy - and that Suu Kiy gave them her imprimatur - offers Western countries the excuse they need to let trade and investment rip..."
"Announcing the easing of US sanctions, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton went directly to the heart of the matter, after making obligatory remarks about Myanmar travelling the road to democracy: 'Today we say to American business: invest in Burma!.."
"Myanmar's democracy icon Ang San Suu Kyi - a Nobel prize winner - has not spoken out against atrocities and ethnic cleansing proposal against the Rohingya people.."
"Myanmar's democracy icon Ang San Suu Kyi has remained silent on the country's discrimination against its Rohingya Muslims as the Nobel Peace laureate seeks a country with no Muslim population.."
which also explains Canada and the West's ignoring the issue as well..
"Western media hide the plight of Rohingya Muslims as it doesn't fit the preferred story that Buddhists are 'peace loving' and Muslims are 'perpetrators of violence'..."
so are the lives of Rohingya Muslims, the silence of Suu Kyi, and the wilful blindness of Canucklheads even as their governments do business there. See comments of these analysts:
Suu Kyi Sacrificing Rohingya Muslims for Political Ambitions: Analyst (and vid)
"A political analyst says the Myanmar opposition leader and Nobel Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi, has 'tragically and shamefully' chosen to remain silent on the genocide of Rohingya Muslims in the country in order to advance her own political ambitions
Calling for sanctions when their own people are suffering daily from NATO's sanctions says sanctions are acceptable to Iranians just not against themselves. I doubt if the people think that so it is interesting to hear the state media spout this bellicose rhetoric.
It makes perfect sense for Muslim countries not to do business with Myanmar, given both the outrages occurring and the reality of western acquiesence/ignorance/approval of te genocide in progress. The two situations are not at all comparable in my view, but I have your point, nonetheless.
Part of what I meant was the definition of a country as Muslim or Christian or Jewish. Press TV as the Iranian state media has a bias towards theocracy just as our state media has a bias toward oligarchy.
But the main point is that actions which hurt citizens need to be decried. That is why I am adamantly opposed to the sanctions against Iran, they hurt the average person. That is also why it is unacceptable to discuss it as a potential tactic.
In June 2011, when the Burmese Army broke a 17-year-long ceasefire and deliberately attacked civilians, firing mortar bombs into villages, committing terrible human rights abuses, and forcing tens of thousands of people to flee their homes, we looked to her for support, just as we always supported her. We didn't get it. There was silence, and then evasive answers when questions were asked.
This year, the same thing has happened over the situation in Rakhine State. Although she has power to let the world know what is going on in Burma, she has never spoken out against the Burmese government's attacks against Kachin civilians nor the situation in Rakhine and government organised abuses against the Rohingya. With her international stature she could pressure the regime to stop armed conflicts in ethnic areas, especially in Kachin State. She famously asked the international community, "Please use your liberty to promote ours," but she isn't using her liberty to help the tens of thousands of Kachin civilians being attacked by the Burmese Army.
In one recent speech in Burmese at Queens College, USA, she says that the silence was justified so as "not to add fire to any side of the conflict." What does it mean? Does she really see this as if it were two equal sides fighting each-other, when in fact it is Kachin people who have been attacked by the Burmese Army? She said, "What is it that I have to strongly condemn? If it is a human rights violation then I will strongly condemn."
And yet, she remained silent over serious human rights violations committed by government army soldiers, including attacks against civilian populations, extrajudicial killings, sexual violence, internal displacement, the use of human shields, the recruitment of child soldiers, as well as forced labour. Elderly women, children, and a disabled woman were all raped and many killed afterwards. Doesn't she see that many women and girls are being raped by the Burmese Army soldiers she said she has a 'soft spot' for? Is her understanding of what is going on in Kachin State so bad that she doesn't understand how insensitive it was to use language like that?
The renaming took place in 1989 but remains a contested issue.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/11/buddhist-monk-freed-burma
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/dissident-burmese-monk-to-be-...
Congrats to Aung San Suu Kyi
Dissident Suu Kyi elected to Burmese parliament, opposition sayshttp://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/01/aung-san-suu-kyi-burma-election/
In Myanmar, an election doomed to fail
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/opinion/in-myanmar-an-election-doomed-...
Way To Go!
So happy to see she wins!
that kind of remind me of Nelson Mandela some reason.
Wall Street Proxy Aung San Suu Kyi's Ascension To Power - by Tony Cartalucci
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2012/03/wall-street-proxy-aung-san-suu-...
"...While Western 'imagineered' ideals of 'democracy', 'freedom' and 'human rights' will be used to mask Aung San Suu Kyi's ascension into power, the underlying agenda is one of Wall Street-London hegemony across Asia, the premeditated encirclement and subsequent containment of China, and the full-scale regional exploitation of Asia and its resources by Western corporate-financier interests."
Whatever business is business.
Imagine having a freely elected government in Myanmar - of course that does not count for anything, does it?
Anyone who would write such trash knows almost nothing about the tragedy that has been the lot of the many different ethnic groups in Burma. What ignorant trash. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting such lies and attacks on someone who has endured so much pain.
Suu Kyi's Victory Leads to Rethink About Sanctionshttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230402350457731877099378391...
What the hell is the argument here? Does anybody really believe that the Myanmarian junta, a cabal of bloodsoaked multibazillionaire fascist generals, is "anti-imperialist"?
Or that keeping that junta in power is somehow "sticking it to The Man"?
The junta is not socialist. it was never going to build socialism. And this is exactly the kind of situation where "anti-imperialism" goes off the rails, and gets twisted into the old Mafia notion that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
Anti-imperialists(and I consider myself one as well)can do better than that.
It will be possible now to organize a true anti-imperialist Left movement in Myanmar...there will now be space...there would never be that space if the generals had prevailed.
Canada should begin to re-engage with Burma, contingent on further reform.
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/1155517--canada-should...
Aung San Suu Kyi Stoops To Conquer Burma
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1203/500660/aung-san-suu-kyi-stoops-to-...
"...some analysts, however, say Mrs Suu Kyi has been reduced to a mere token who the regime no longer fears, and is intentionally being permitted to win a seat because her election is worth the lifting of US sanctions. Washington hopes her victory will be the first of many democratic changes, so the US can increase its economic and political influence in the Buddhist majority, former British colony.
By staging the election and allowing other freedoms, the regime has risen to its most powerful position on the world stage, attracting politicians, businessmen and others from America, Europe and elsewhere. Columbia University professor Joseph E Stiglitz visited in 2009 and suggested 'removing the sanctions that have now become an impediment to the country's 'transformation.'
The sanctions include a ban on most international banking activity, rendering credit cards and bank transfers useless.."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/burmamyanmar/9188936/Burm...
Walkom: The Real Reason Canada is Cozying Up to Burma's Dictators
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1157856--walkom-the-...
"...Resource-rich Burma is subject to strict economic sanctions by Western countries. Big companies - and particularly big oil companies - are lobbying hard to have those sactions lifted. And Canada hopes to have its firms front and centre when the great barbecue begins.
The fact that Burma's military-backed leaders allowed any opening towards democracy - and that Suu Kiy gave them her imprimatur - offers Western countries the excuse they need to let trade and investment rip..."
Myanmar Learns the Lesson of Libya - by Stephen Gowans
http://www.voltairenet.org/Myanmar-learns-the-lesson-of-Libya
"Announcing the easing of US sanctions, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton went directly to the heart of the matter, after making obligatory remarks about Myanmar travelling the road to democracy: 'Today we say to American business: invest in Burma!.."
Suu Ky's Silence on Oppressed Muslims Shocking: Analyst (and vid)
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/14/250944/suu-kyi-antimuslims-stanc...
"Myanmar's democracy icon Ang San Suu Kyi - a Nobel prize winner - has not spoken out against atrocities and ethnic cleansing proposal against the Rohingya people.."
Suu Kyi Keeps Mum on Muslim Cleansing (and vid)
http://presstv.com/detail/2012/07/29/253358/suu-kyi-seeks-a-country-with...
"Myanmar's democracy icon Ang San Suu Kyi has remained silent on the country's discrimination against its Rohingya Muslims as the Nobel Peace laureate seeks a country with no Muslim population.."
which also explains Canada and the West's ignoring the issue as well..
'World Silent on Religious Cleansing of Rohingya Muslims' (and vid)
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/10/28/269178/world-silent-on-killing-...
"Western media hide the plight of Rohingya Muslims as it doesn't fit the preferred story that Buddhists are 'peace loving' and Muslims are 'perpetrators of violence'..."
Press TV calling for "Muslim" countries to impose economic sanctions against Burma is priceless.
so are the lives of Rohingya Muslims, the silence of Suu Kyi, and the wilful blindness of Canucklheads even as their governments do business there. See comments of these analysts:
Suu Kyi Sacrificing Rohingya Muslims for Political Ambitions: Analyst (and vid)
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/10/29/269336/politics-hush-suu-kyi-on...
"A political analyst says the Myanmar opposition leader and Nobel Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi, has 'tragically and shamefully' chosen to remain silent on the genocide of Rohingya Muslims in the country in order to advance her own political ambitions
Calling for sanctions when their own people are suffering daily from NATO's sanctions says sanctions are acceptable to Iranians just not against themselves. I doubt if the people think that so it is interesting to hear the state media spout this bellicose rhetoric.
It makes perfect sense for Muslim countries not to do business with Myanmar, given both the outrages occurring and the reality of western acquiesence/ignorance/approval of te genocide in progress. The two situations are not at all comparable in my view, but I have your point, nonetheless.
Part of what I meant was the definition of a country as Muslim or Christian or Jewish. Press TV as the Iranian state media has a bias towards theocracy just as our state media has a bias toward oligarchy.
But the main point is that actions which hurt citizens need to be decried. That is why I am adamantly opposed to the sanctions against Iran, they hurt the average person. That is also why it is unacceptable to discuss it as a potential tactic.
'Myanmar Wants to Annihilate Rohingyas' (and vid)
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/11/01/269872/myanmar-wants-to-annihil...
"The government of Myanmar seeks to 'annihilate' the Rohingya Muslims amid ongoing violence against the community.."
Like Bahrain, West remains silently complicit
Aung San Suu Kyi re-elected leader of Burma's opposition party
Nobel laureate named as chairwoman of National League for Democracy's new executive board at landmark party conference
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/10/aung-san-suu-kyi-reelected-b...
I Feel Betrayed by Aung San Suu Kyi