Gun registry - back in the news
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Boom Boom wrote:Quebec data only. But Conservative MP Candace Heoppner said yesterday on P&P that the government will fight Quebec over this all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada if necessary.
We don't recognize the Supreme Court of Cannida.
As for Candace Hoeppner, once we get true gun control legislation in place, she'll be a long shot for re-election.
Maybe you shouldn't recognize the transfer payments from the federal gov't either. After C-10 went through we heard how Queerbec couldn't afford to enforce the new requirements and needed more money from the federal gov't to do this... where is the money coming from to run their own long gun registry? Queerbec is poor right?
So long coreyd ... wish I could say it was nice knowing ya.
ETA: It's been a while since we had so many trolls as special guests on babble. Did Free Dominion's server finally shut them down?
ETAA: Hit the quote button instead of edit. I need a vacation ...
Righteous fantasy #137
If I were a law enforcement agent, I'd export all the data, encrypt it and store it on a safe server. Of course, if the information continued to be used the source would eventually be discovered and it would be expunged, but still ...
I have a question for you. Why ban members for voicing their opinions? I know they may be different than yours but they are still valid. No rules were broken.
You ban these members, yet you post that if you had access to to documents you would abuse your power and break the law. Is one to assume then, that you may also abuse your power on here as a mod to move your argument forward?
Freedom 55 wrote:bigguy1 wrote:Why ban members for voicing their opinions?
Who are you referring too?
Rebecca West and her banning of coreyd, dlink and dushan.
In the case of dlink, I'm not sure, but in the other two cases it should be pretty obvious. I'm not a mod, but I think your assertion that no rules were broken is incorrect.
From post #26 above:
Nice to see the NRA following babble! We should charge admission here.
I hate to say "I told you so", but had my suggestion been implemented back then, we would have put a serious dent in the NRA's disinformation budget. Better late than never...
Anyway, I still like the idea of the law-abiding God-fearing gun fetishists having to support Québec's court challenge with their hard-robbed-earned tax dollars! So cool!!
I get a kick out of all ''the sky is falling'' friends of the registry...An uninfomed buch they are... In 1977 ANYONE who wanted to legally purchase a new firearm were required to have a valid FAC (firearms aquisition certificate)..Then with the introduction of C-68 in 1995 ALL gun owners had to have a POL/PAL to possess or purchase a firearm..This means that ALL firearm owners were registered as such, and makes the long gun registry a double registy...A total wast of parliment, and taxpayers money... Even though the long gun registry is gone, gun owners are sill registerd, and that will continue to be...It changes nothing....Anyone who has or ever had an FAC, POL, or PAL are on record and thus registered..Not many realize this..Gun owners, and non-gun owners alike...
I had an FAC in the 1980s and a long gun collection, but I sold my guns at the end of that decade and never renewed my FAC after that, and never had anyone do a follow-up. Certainly I never got a letter from the RCMP. In the 1980s I also shot handguns using an OPP handgun permit, and handguns belonging to friends. Again, no follow-up from anyone. I supported the Long Gun Registry and had hoped its deficiencies would be corrected and the LGR become a normal part of Canadian life, as regular as driver's licenses. The Conservatives have been absolute pricks at every juncture of the LGR including how they're fighting giving Quebec control over their own database.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/04/08/mulcair-tout-le-monde-en-parle.html
Mulcair said Sunday that it was a "monumental error" for the Tories to kill the long-gun registry, and that if a future NDP election platform included a pledge to bring it back, he would make his caucus vote for it. Layton had allowed his MPs to vote freely on the issue in 2010 when it came up as a private member's bill in Parliament, though New Democrats were expected to toe the party line and vote to save the registry when the government presented a bill to kill it in the fall and winter.
So I banned a few more NRA fans. I wonder where they're getting the link from. I wish we could charge admission!
For regular babblers who oppose the gun registry, please note that these bannings are about clear trolls and not the position itself.
Well, I only made one post and it was nothing more than my opinion on the gun registry and I got banned. I am not sure why you would ban me if you say the bannings are about trolling. I don't believe I was trolling and I certainly wasn't intending to come across that way. I merely wanted to add my 2 cents to the discussion on a topic that is of great debate in this country.
JFA2
Rebecca West wrote:Righteous fantasy #137
If I were a law enforcement agent, I'd export all the data, encrypt it and store it on a safe server. Of course, if the information continued to be used the source would eventually be discovered and it would be expunged, but still ...
I have a question for you. Why ban members for voicing their opinions? I know they may be different than yours but they are still valid. No rules were broken.
You ban these members, yet you post that if you had access to to documents you would abuse your power and break the law. Is one to assume then, that you may also abuse your power on here as a mod to move your argument forward?
Give this man a cigar!
Rebecca West wrote:So long coreyd ... wish I could say it was nice knowing ya.
so you banned this guy cause he disagreed with you? WoW! That is quite ignorant of you.
It's ignorant of you to not know babble policy or understand how post #40 would earn oneself the boot.
Not only should we bring back the LGR, we should create a knife registry. And propane cylinder hook-up classes. Maybe chainsaw use certificates: use it once, punch the tag, show punched tag to federally mandated powered saw overseer. Also rope. People hurt themselves with rope all the time, dangerous stuff. I favour a rope licencing bureaucracy. And a new building for the bureaucrats. Perhaps by raising the gas tax? We should let contractors in Quebec bid for it. And then build it in the Yukon.
We don't recognize the Supreme Court of Cannida.
As for Candace Hoeppner, once we get true gun control legislation in place, she'll be a long shot for re-election.
Unfortunately, not just for his personal collection.
But thanks to the now killed registry many more were not sold untracked on the internet.
The "law and order" Cons have removed that inconvenience.
http://www.saanichnews.com/news/143540916.html
I am a Canadian police officer (a so called pig as mentioned on this site several times) and the LGR did nothing for the safety of this country. If you think it did then you are uninformed and ignorant. Canadian police as a whole did not support the registry - the CACP did support it but they are a political group with political agendas and don't speak on behalf of police officers.
If you are truly for freedom in this country you should be happy that the LGR has been dismantled. It did nothing for safety, it merely put law abiding people at odds with the police.
JFA
I know you didn't say (or think) this, but it's the most logical thing I've read in this thread...
And that would be breaking the law, but Liberals & L.E.O.'s are above the law aren't they... ~rolls eyes~
(RE: Jack Laytons massage parlour scandal, and the Toronto G20 security fiasco)
I see the oppression of free speech is also alive & well on Rabble, as well as the gun-grabbing movement. (insert politically-incorrect "up-yours" emoticon HERE)
It's amazing, the similarity between left-wing Liberal supporters, & dictatorships like Communist North Korea/Nazi Germany/etc...
Thanks for sharing.
PS don't let the barn door hit you on your way out.
See... This is the best you can muster ? No "the registry has saved countless vulnerable women from their oppressing husbands!"..?
In fact, freeloading Liberals love wasting my hard-earned tax-dollars on a program that has no merit and makes criminals out of law-abiding citizens.
RE: Ian Thompson, Bruce Montague, etc...
Actually it was an audit that caught the crime, not the long gun registry.
It's not as easy as most other items they steal. Without a central repository of information, it's that much harder
I don't know what valhalla you live in, but they are already well armed and organized. Very few of the guns they have were ever legally brought into Canada.
Those are some pretty serious claims, care to provide even the slightest amount of proof? or would you just prefer to continue the slander?
More people are killed by vehicles in a single week in Canada than are killed by firearms each year. Do you spend 52x the effort to ban vehicles? It's all about saving lives right? Why go after the small fish.