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Harper government near 'tipping point'?

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quizzical
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We could not get any more of a sideshow than what we have right now. As for 'stable' I guess that reality resides in the definition you have of "stable"


Boom Boom
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The "Harper Government" has been a sideshow since the beginning. Maybe that's what the electorate wanted in the beginning, but I think now we're all tired of this garbage. The RoboCalls and F35s just add to our discomfort with these jerks.

 


jdman
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Boom Boom wrote:

 The RoboCalls and F35s just add to our discomfort with these jerks.

You mean those robots got to you too???

The only ones that have been implicated in any of the robo-BS is the liberals. Big surprise there.....Oh why have we not heard a thing about it since then??? oh thats right, it does not implicate the Cons.

And as for the F-35's, have you ever been a member of the airforce? Or for that matter, the military at all?

Well guess what.... they need new stuff regularly, as it gets outdated, and is inefective as technology expands.

Is this really all you have to whine about? I mean come on.....


Unionist
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jdman wrote:

Well that would be because the people of Canada want a stable government.

A "stable" government?

As in, one that smells of horse shit?

I think you're right. I was wondering what that odour was...

Thanks!

 


Boom Boom
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Laughing


Fidel
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jdman wrote:
Well that would be because the people of Canada want a stable government. Not some sideshow.

Jim Stanford, May 2011 wrote:
So how do you like economic stability so far?

In the first week of stability-inducing majority government, Canada's economy experienced:

- A decline of almost 400 points over the week in the TSX composite, the worst weekly loss all year.

- A decline of almost 2 U.S. cents in the value of the loonie.

- Turmoil in commodity and futures markets, sparked in part by new U.K. rules limiting speculative positions in the silver market. The resulting downturn spread to other commodity prices (including oil) which had also been bid up by speculators.

- A miserable GDP report (issued the Friday before the election) showing that Canada's real output was actually declining in February, casting doubt on the viability of the recovery.

- A jobs report issued this Friday that had a positive headline number (58,000 more Canadians working in April), but was gloomy in the details. 70 percent of those jobs were part-time, and almost two-thirds were in the public sector - many of them at Elections Canada working on an election that Mr. Harper said all along was "unnecessary" and economically damaging. In the goods-producing side of the economy, employment was falling (largely reflecting the impact of a sky-high loonie on manufacturing).

 

TSX losses ground after disappointing U.S. jobs numbers April 12-12

Yeah our 24 percenters in Ottawa re looking very beatable in 2015 if they continue this torrid pace of stability.

The only things really trending up are gross national debt and continuing "market uncertainty."

Harper is entirely beatable.


quizzical
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jdman wrote:
The only ones that have been implicated in any of the robo-BS is the liberals. Big surprise there.....Oh why have we not heard a thing about it since then??? oh thats right, it does not implicate the Cons.

seems you're a bit  uninformed read this thread

http://rabble.ca/babble/canadian-politics/harpers-black-ops-scandal-robo...


Fidel
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We'll have jdman switching to the NDP before long. Wink


jdman
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Well i have not missed a day of work. Then again i am not a "specialist" in some obscure field of work, that has no demand. Nobody i know is looking for work either, I know a lot of people.


jdman
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Fidel wrote:

We'll have jdman switching to the NDP before long. Wink

 

Not bloody likely, i have that crap jammed down my throat enough while i am at work. USW member, what a disgrace, i know...


Fidel
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jdman wrote:

Fidel wrote:

We'll have jdman switching to the NDP before long. Wink

 

Not bloody likely, i have that crap jammed down my throat enough while i am at work. USW member, what a disgrace, i know...

 Yes, Canada's economic fortunes were tied to the U.S. economy in 1989 and 1994.

And as soon as the very neoliberal Obama is re-elected, they will work to reduce wages by an average of 30% in America and push unemployment way up in that country and using countries like Greece as their method of madness.

Bottom line is that nothing of the right wing ideology wafting over the border will save the Harpers in 2015. The Harpers have nothing up their sleeves and no plan of their own to save themselves with any kind of right wing agenda for real economic growth. They are sitting tight and hoping in vain for a boost from the U.S. economy that just isn't on. I'm sorry about it, too. You should think about voting NDP in order to drag your party back to their senses if they had any in the first place. Harpers are ruled by bankers and a relatively tiny number of rich people here and around the world. Central planning by a handful few never turns out well.


quizzical
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jdman wrote:
Well i have not missed a day of work. Then again i am not a "specialist" in some obscure field of work, that has no demand. Nobody i know is looking for work either, I know a lot of people.

What's that got to do with any of your bogus claims or anything at all ? and i use bogus as a nice word in reference to what you don't know about what you are spouting


Hoodeet
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Boom Boom wrote:

Jason Kenney and Immigration had a misstep if I remember correctly, can't remember the details.

Hoodeet (JW)

Are you thinking of the staged citizenship ceremony with the civil servant stand-ins?  Oh, that was more of a failing-grade class project for Theatre 101 in community college (not to be offensive to community colleges).


jdman
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Fidel wrote:
And as soon as the very neoliberal Obama is re-elected

 

You lost me after this line. I dont see him winning anything. Definitly a one shot wonder, much like the orange crush fad we had last time.

He will be gone, and some other moron will take over the reins.


Sean in Ottawa
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Hey JDman are you here to debate or just taunt people?

If you are up for a debate then let's discuss some facts or issues but if you are here just to annoy-- fill your boots becuase you won't be here long.

Otherwise, hey, welcome to Babble.

Since you are such a strong booster of the F-35-- mind saying why the governemnt could not have advanced the real number it knew they would cost instead of the fake number?

If you think only the Liberals did Robo calls, how come your campaign worker in Guelph "retired" so early? And why is such a good loyal company like Racknine involved?

While you are at it how do you justify cutting Katimavik so abruptly that the people who had paid a deposit and planned around it this year are suddenly without any options-- could it not have been wound down with a year notice to not leave people hanging?

I am sure there are other good questions-- do you want to start there?

Right now there is a sense that your government is an interesting blend of nasty and incompetent. Care to defend? By defend I don't mean smear someone else-- just explain why their actions are so reasonable in your view.

 


jdman
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quizzical wrote:

jdman wrote:
Well i have not missed a day of work. Then again i am not a "specialist" in some obscure field of work, that has no demand. Nobody i know is looking for work either, I know a lot of people.

What's that got to do with any of your bogus claims or anything at all ? and i use bogus as a nice word in reference to what you don't know about what you are spouting

what are you on about now?Undecided


Hoodeet
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jdman wrote:

Boom Boom wrote:

 The RoboCalls and F35s just add to our discomfort with these jerks.

You mean those robots got to you too???

The only ones that have been implicated in any of the robo-BS is the liberals. Big surprise there.....Oh why have we not heard a thing about it since then??? oh thats right, it does not implicate the Cons.

And as for the F-35's, have you ever been a member of the airforce? Or for that matter, the military at all?

 

Well guess what.... they need new stuff regularly, as it gets outdated, and is inefective as technology expands.

Is this really all you have to whine about? I mean come on.....

Hoodeet (JW)

The F-35s ARE a problem for several reasons: they are not proven to be safe (so I wonder about your c oncern about the well-being of air force personnel),  they were decided on with a no-bid process, the cost overrun  and the hidden cost of maintenance was either  not foreseen by the govt (incompetence) or concealed (corruption and obeisance to the Pentagon and the U.S. MIC).   But this has been all over the internet and even in the mainstream press, so your complaint about the objections is pretty unfounded.


jdman
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To me, the f35 deal isnt a big deal. Military needs new stuff....buy it. Simple as that. Costs, who cares what it costs. What does freedom mean to you?

If you want peace, prepare for war.

Again, a simple concept, that none of you seem to grasp.


Fidel
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 Why waste your vote on the Harpers? They will be steamrolled by an Orange Crush, mark my words.


quizzical
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Sean in Ottawa wrote:
Hey JDman are you here to debate or just taunt people?

didn't take long for me to figure out this person is not real.


jdman
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quizzical wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:
Hey JDman are you here to debate or just taunt people?

didn't take long for me to figure out this person is not real.

simmer down nancy,

Just cause i dont have the same thinking as you does not make my point of view wrong.


Unionist
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Would it be possible not to let a troll derail a thread quite so easily? Either call him rude names or ignore him. Just don't take it seriously. Please.

 


jdman
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Unionist wrote:
Would it be possible not to let a troll derail a thread quite so easily? Either call him rude names or ignore him. Just don't take it seriously. Please.

 

Right.... I am a troll because i didnt drink the "orange crush" Kool-aid? Mmkk...

So let me get this strait, if i do not jerk off Tommy Mulcair, i am a troll.....

If i dont bash the cons, i am a troll.....

If i dont piss and moan about military purchases, i ama troll....

If i dont agree with you....I am a troll....

 

Am i missing anything?


Fidel
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Yes I think we were trying to make him feel like an adult worthwhile talking to. Obviously he's having none of it.


quizzical
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jdman wrote:
quizzical wrote:
Sean in Ottawa wrote:
Hey JDman are you here to debate or just taunt people?

didn't take long for me to figure out this person is not real.

simmer down nancy,

Just cause i dont have the same thinking as you does not make my point of view wrong.

yeah it does cause your thinking as stated in this thread is not based on any facts at all.


jdman
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Fidel wrote:

Yes I think we were trying to make him feel like an adult worthwhile talking to. Obviously he's having none of it.

Yes, you are right, calling me a troll is very adult like of you, sorry.


Hoodeet
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Petulant.  Troll is too sophisticated a term, imo.

 

 

 


Winston
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NorthReport wrote:

How long were the NDP at 40% in the polls in the 80s?

Never.

We led in the mid-30s for a short while in 1987, but that was about it.

Our peak in support was early in 1991, before the lustre had come off Bob Rae and Audrey McLaughlin.  One poll showed us at 41%, but by the end of the year, that was ancient history.


socialdemocrati...
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Probably best to ignore him. If he thinks the Conservatives are managing the economy properly, it's obvious he lives in a parallel universe anyway. Record deficits, persistent unemployment, and rising inequality.

(Yeah, I'm still here. Lurking.)


jdman
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socialdemocraticmiddle wrote:

Probably best to ignore him. If he thinks the Conservatives are managing the economy properly, it's obvious he lives in a parallel universe anyway. Record deficits, persistent unemployment, and rising inequality.

(Yeah, I'm still here. Lurking.)

 

what part of the majority of Canadians voted for a strong, stable government dont you get? We, the people of Canada voted for the CPC, fact. So dont be all pissy with me, because you lost the election.

So...lurk away.

 


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