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Student strike against tuition hike #2

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Caissa
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thread drift/ I support a hike in tuition. I do not support a hike in tuition fees./ end thread drift.


Unionist
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Caissa wrote:

thread drift/ I support a hike in tuition. I do not support a hike in tuition fees./ end thread drift.

Laughing

I deliberately framed the thread title that way for considerations of metre and rhyme. In doing so, I took a semantic shortcut. I should have known Caissa would blow the whistle...

 


Caissa
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How does it work in French, Unionist?


Unionist
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Doesn't work in French. You gotta try the other ones, like:

"Charest, salaud, le peuple aura ta peau!"

or

"On veut étudier, on n'veut pas s'endetter!"

Or my favourite multi-purpose marching motto:

Crions, plus fort, pour que personne ne nous ignore!


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duncan cameron wrote:

My take on why students should not have to pay for their education through tuition hikes.

http://rabble.ca/columnists/2012/04/using-debt-common-good

Banks get into trouble when they make bad loans. We insure banks against risk by creating a central bank and mandating it to be the lender of last resort to the banks. Note that in Canada our big banks received charters to operate from parliament. Thus, banks are publicly created, and publicly insured. Why should they not be publicly regulated, and controlled?
Banks pay small amounts in interest to depositors, and then tax it back through outrageous service charges. Banks charge higher rates of interest on loans, and add service charges as well. The spread between the interest rate paid to depositors and the higher rate charged to borrowers adds to bank revenues. In theory, it is how they make their money, though exercising their power to tax through levying service charges represents a growing part of bank revenue.
Our big five chartered banks made total profits of $22.4 billion in 2011.

 

Thanks Duncan. Yes the banks are powerful. American Michael Hudson says it's a ripoff and that US banks have basically taken over federal powers of resource allocation.

I think Canadian students are paying what are among, or perhaps even the highest interest rates in the world when it comes to student loans. It's ridiculous. 

I think it was you, Duncan, who said that Canadian governments finance student loans through the general bond market and costing them somewhere around 4%. Then they make loans to Canadian students at rates of anywhere from 8% to 11.5%. Apparently the feds are profiting from student loans as well as banks.


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Cracking Down Demonstrators

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CUTV Reporter Among Those Arrested

Approximately 50 people were arrested following a demonstration that began early in the morning at Square Victoria and weaved its way through downtown Montreal on April 4.

Among those arrested was Concordia University Television Program Director and cameraman Laith Marouf, who along with two other reporters was live-streaming the action.

“The demonstration was basically finished,” says Sabine Freisinger, CUTV reporter and former Concordia Student Union president. “Riot police then circled the demonstrators, and we were there trying to film.”

According to Freisinger, police became aggressive, hitting demonstrators with batons and using pepper spray on the crowd.

“We were filming all of this and saying that we were live –that’s when they grabbed our cameraman, Laith,” said Freisinger. “We were doing our jobs as journalists.”

“They didn’t want people to see live what the police are doing in the streets of Montreal against students.”

There have been several reports of excessive violence used by police during this demonstration. One McGill student is currently hospitalized at L’Hôpital Notre-Dame after reportedly being struck by riot police.

After leaving Square Victoria the demonstration entered both the Queen Elizabeth Hotel and the Eaton Centre. The Service de police de la Ville de Montréal has reported that pyrotechnic devices were used at both locations.

The demonstration then took to McGill Metro and resurfaced at St. Laurent Metro, where police and riot police using the kettle tactic began breaking up the group and making arrests.

As of 1:30 p.m. some of those arrested had started to be released.

http://thelinknewspaper.ca/article/2949

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..there's a video police report at the montreal gazzette. the cutv video puts a lie to that report.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/montreal/6409104/story.html


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The police declared the demonstration as an "unlawful assembly" at about 11:30 this morning, and proceeded to arrest 71 people apparently under section 63 of the Criminal Code.

Do you know how the police in Canada turn a demonstration from a lawful expression of freedom of speech and association into a criminal act? It's explained in section 67 of the Criminal Code:

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67. A person who is

(a) a justice, mayor or sheriff, or the lawful deputy of a mayor or sheriff,

(b) a warden or deputy warden of a prison, or

(c) the institutional head of a penitentiary, as those expressions are defined in subsection 2(1) of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, or that person’s deputy,

who receives notice that, at any place within the jurisdiction of the person, twelve or more persons are unlawfully and riotously assembled together shall go to that place and, after approaching as near as is safe, if the person is satisfied that a riot is in progress, shall command silence and thereupon make or cause to be made in a loud voice a proclamation in the following words or to the like effect:

Her Majesty the Queen charges and commands all persons being assembled immediately to disperse and peaceably to depart to their habitations or to their lawful business on the pain of being guilty of an offence for which, on conviction, they may be sentenced to imprisonment for life. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.

Proverbially known as "reading the riot act".

Some day these fascist thugs, and their bosses, will receive a fair trial for their crimes.

 


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A few days ago I heard an annoying 'off the cuff' remark on the telly - I think it was on CBC - to the extent that if Quebec can afford to have the lowest tuition fees in Canada, then it obviously doesn't need equalization payments.

That comment is driving me nuts. What's a good response to it, other than ignoring it completely?


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A few days ago I heard an annoying 'off the cuff' remark on the telly - I think it was on CBC - to the extent that if Quebec can afford to have the lowest tuition fees in Canada, then it obviously doesn't need equalization payments.

That comment is driving me nuts. What's a good response to it, other than ignoring it completely?


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That if some provinces can afford to give equalization payments, they should consider using some of that money to make post-secondary education more affordable for their own youth. If they run out of money to give Québec, that'll be just fine, because at least then they'll have spent their money the way we spend ours (at least, when we fight hard enough that the 1% give in) - on people.

Sound twisted? I hope so - just like the original comment you heard!

 


Boom Boom
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That's pretty good - wish I thought of it! But I've been preoccupied with other matters this week.

Boom Boom
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That's pretty good - wish I thought of it! But I've been preoccupied with other matters this week.

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Public Education 'Failure By Design' - by Noam Chomsky

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30985.htm

"Public education is under attack around the world, and in response, student protests have recently been held in Britain, Canada, Chile, Taiwan and elsewhere..."

Class War and the College Crisis  -  by Andrew Gavin Marshall

http://andrewgavinmarshall.com/2012/04/02/class-war-and-the-college-cris...

"Today we are witnessing an emerging massive global revolt, led primarily by the educated and unemployed youth of the world, against the institutionalized and established powers which seek to deprive them of a future worth living.."


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Teachers' union jumps into the fray

This morning, the main union of Montréal (French) school commission teachers, and the education students' associations of the two local French-speaking universities, are holding a press conference under the title:

"Teachers and future teachers against the hike!"

Meanwhile, students at about 30 area high schools were welcomed by the sight of huge red placards on the fences and exterior walls of their schools.

As we speak, Minister of Education Line Beauchamp is making some kind of announcement in the National Assembly about improving accessibility to education. All the buildup has indicated that it will be confined to the loans and bursaries program. That's not what the students want and it won't be enough to dampen the struggle. The government must come to the negotiating table and talk about tuition fees and the whole management of postsecondary funding.

 


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Ok, here are the initial reports about the (as expected) government announcement about "improvements" to the loans and bursaries program:

The Gazette - with a heavy pro-govt spin

La Presse - less spin and a few more details

It amounts to more possibilities for students to go into debt. Not what they're looking for! And the piddling $21 million cost (over 5 years) of the expanded programs will be deducted from government financing of the universities!

Basically, the Charest government has adopted the proposal of François Legault's CAQ party. They're no longer even capable of coming up with their own neoliberal ideas.

Awaiting the response of the students and their allies...

 


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The "Bureau du Québec" in Toronto was occupied today in solidarity with the Quebec student strike and to oppose the current level of tuition fees in Ontario.

Le Bureau du Québec à Toronto pris d'assaut par des étudiants

TORONTO - Le mécontentement à l'endroit de la hausse des droits de scolarité au Québec s'est transporté dans la Ville Reine, jeudi matin, alors qu'une quinzaine d'étudiants ont occupé les locaux du Bureau du Québec à Toronto pendant environ une heure.

L'occupation du Groupe des étudiants québécois-ontariens pour la gratuité scolaire se voulait un geste de solidarité envers le mouvement de grève des étudiants au Québec.

Selon Xavier Lafrance, porte-parole du groupe, ses collègues et lui demandaient au Bureau du Québec à Toronto qu'il envoie une copie de leur communiqué dénonçant la hausse des droits de scolarité au gouvernement Charest, à Québec, ce à quoi il a consenti....

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2012/04/05/le-bureau-du-quebec-a-toront...


Gaian
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Boom Boom wrote:

A few days ago I heard an annoying 'off the cuff' remark on the telly - I think it was on CBC - to the extent that if Quebec can afford to have the lowest tuition fees in Canada, then it obviously doesn't need equalization payments.

That comment is driving me nuts. What's a good response to it, other than ignoring it completely?

Al Jazeera employed something similar in its questioning of student leaders today,and not just a comparison across Canada...i.e. how can you complain when the average American student is paying fees of $20,000 and up. The student held her ground, insisting that it represented the difference in ACCESS to education that one expected in Canada. I should imagine that the same argument would apply in comparisons across provinces.

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Boom Boom wrote:

A few days ago I heard an annoying 'off the cuff' remark on the telly - I think it was on CBC - to the extent that if Quebec can afford to have the lowest tuition fees in Canada, then it obviously doesn't need equalization payments.

That comment is driving me nuts. What's a good response to it, other than ignoring it completely?

Because tuition fees and need for equalization payments aren't correlated in any way?

If tuition fees were an indicator of a need for equalization payments, then clearly Alberta needs equalization payments much more than Manitoba.


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The students reply:

Government's offer "arrogant": Student leaders

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Describing the province’s offer to make the repayment of student loans more flexible and extend credit to students whose family income is above $60,000 as “arrogant” and "insulting," the federations representing as many as 200,000 striking college and university students say they will only negotiate tuition and university funding as a common front.

And representatives of the three federations who met with reporters Friday said they feel public opinion and the price tag they attach to their nine-week strike is pushing the Charest government into a corner.

“We invite all of the students of Quebec to continue with the strike because we have the firm conviction that we’ve come to a crucial moment and that we’re closer than ever to victory,” said Léo Bureau-Blouin, head of Quebec Federation of College Students.

Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois, spokesperson for CLASSE, an umbrella group uniting students groups, was more direct: “When you spit in the face of the student movement, the student union replies and replies loudly.

“The offer made yesterday (by the government) was insulting and very arrogant, and the largest general strike in Quebec history is going on and (Education Minister) Line Beauchamp makes an offer that doesn’t even deal with the issue of this strike.”


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Unionist wrote:

The students reply:

Government's offer "arrogant": Student leaders

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Describing the province’s offer to make the repayment of student loans more flexible and extend credit to students whose family income is above $60,000 as “arrogant” and "insulting," the federations representing as many as 200,000 striking college and university students say they will only negotiate tuition and university funding as a common front.

And representatives of the three federations who met with reporters Friday said they feel public opinion and the price tag they attach to their nine-week strike is pushing the Charest government into a corner.

“We invite all of the students of Quebec to continue with the strike because we have the firm conviction that we’ve come to a crucial moment and that we’re closer than ever to victory,” said Léo Bureau-Blouin, head of Quebec Federation of College Students.

Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois, spokesperson for CLASSE, an umbrella group uniting students groups, was more direct: “When you spit in the face of the student movement, the student union replies and replies loudly.

“The offer made yesterday (by the government) was insulting and very arrogant, and the largest general strike in Quebec history is going on and (Education Minister) Line Beauchamp makes an offer that doesn’t even deal with the issue of this strike.”

..they remain strong! bravo! i am with you in spirit!


Gaian
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It was Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois who held firmly to the argument from need for greater equality of access to higher education in the face of comparisons by Al Jazeera with other provinces and with U.S.states. And she smiled into the camera throughout the interview. An inspiring leader. Another person interviewed, an academic, pointed out that Quebec is also 'naturally" closer to European expectations in this regard.The interview was a commendable example of what a news report should accomplish, not misleading in intent.

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Common front of students against the government

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One thing the students are is determined. And more united than ever - as they sought to demonstrate yesterday in a press conference held jointly by all three student associations, a rare event since the start of the strike movement. "The proposals made yesterday by the Minister were aimed at dividing and discrediting the student leaders. Today, therefore, we are responding in full force. We consulted our associations, and everyone replied: Present!", said Martine Desjardins of the FEUQ, adding that the Minister's "little game" hadn't worked. [...]

Despite the Good Friday holiday, students didn't let up. In Outremont, they conducted an "Educational Way of the Cross", stopping at Finance Minister Raymond Bachand's home and his constituency office.

[My translation]


epaulo13
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Quebecois and Ontarian Students for Free Education Occupation Interview


Office of Education Minister Glen Murray, MPP 514 Parliament, Toronto

http://toronto.mediacoop.ca/audio/quebecois-and-ontarian-students-free-education-occupation-interview/10444


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Audio Interview: Melissa Palermo VP Education Ryerson Students' Union


Occupying the Minister of Training, Colleges, and Universities' office.

http://toronto.mediacoop.ca/audio/audio-interview-melissa-palermo-vp-edu...


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Student strike: Marches, broken glass, and an outdoor concert

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To mark the 52nd day of their strike - as many days as the record walkout of 2005 - and to denounce the Québec government's announcement concerning the loans program, students blocked the SAQ (Québec Liquor Corporation) distribution centre, symbolically broke glass [to condemn the "mediatization of violence"], and danced at an open-air concert.


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Student strike drags on as longest in Quebec history

There appears to be no end in sight for what is now the longest strike in the history of the student movement in Quebec.

After close to eight weeks, leaders of the protest against university tuition fee hikes appear more united, more defiant, and more combative than ever despite court injunctions ordering picket lines to be dismantled and a concession offer by the government on student loans. There are more rallies planned this week.

With 175,000 students out of a province-wide total of more than 400,000 on strike, leaders of the protest movement are playing havoc with Premier Jean Charest’s pre-election strategy.

“We know that we are in crucial period where colleges and universities have to juggle how they manage the spring session after a two-month strike,” said Martine Desjardins, president of the Quebec Federation of University Students, in an interview. “We are in a pre-election period and we can see that the government is anxious to settle the issue and get students back in the classrooms. They certainly don’t want us on their heels throughout an election campaign.”...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/quebec/student-strike-drags...


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Solidarity With the Quebec Student General Strike

by Head & Hands on April 3rd, 2012

Head & Hands envisions a society in which all youth are full participants inspired by the endless possibilities open to them. We write today in support of Quebec’s youth-led student movement for accessible education and affordable tuition. We stand in solidarity with the Coalition Large de l’Association pour une Solidarité Syndicale Étudiante (CLASSE) and other student organizers. We strongly support their mobilization for accessible education, and applaud their efforts to open larger discussions of social justice linked to the structure and function of post-secondary education in our society.

Working to support youth on a daily basis, we experience the positive effects of accessible education and affirm its fundamental contribution to the well-being of our communities. We believe strongly in the power of politically engaged youth to create positive change in our societies, and recognize the tangible products of student strikes throughout decades past in Quebec. We hope this mobilization will extend to address the multiple systemic barriers that marginalize youth for reasons of race, class, status, ability, gender, or sexuality, among others.

We warmly invite youth from the student movement to contact us for social counselling, legal information or advice, and medical support. All our services are free, confidential, and non-judgemental. We can be reached by phone at 514-481-0277, or in person at 5833 rue Sherbrooke Ouest.

http://headandhands.ca/2012/04/solidarity-with-the-quebec-student-genera...


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Tuition fee fight reaches critical point as semester runs out of time

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With no talks planned, Tuesday may mark a critical point in the nine-week-long strike that has polarized many campuses.

The Fédération étudiante collégiale du Québec says that day is a kind of point of no return when CEGEPs will have to figure out how to make up lost time before June 15, which is as long as most college teachers have to work, contractually. In fact, a few CEGEPs - such as Collège Montmorency in Laval - have already had to cancel their summer sessions to accommodate the extended semester.

Tuesday is also when the resolve of striking students at the Université de Montréal will really be tested, as the university sent out an email last week saying if students aren’t back in class by then, they can’t guarantee that all courses can be completed by June 15, the end of the extended semester. That means some classes could simply be suspended, as the university asserts there will be “no compromise” on the quality of the education.

And this week is when many university and CÉGEP associations will have to renew their strike mandates - just as upheaval and uncertainty in the education system is swelling and the stakes are getting higher as final exams approach.

And the struggle continues:

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Demo to last 12 hours: Wednesday will be another big day for protesting students as they launch a 12-hour-long demonstration that will begin at 7 a.m. at Victoria Square.

The “unlimited protest” is supposed to show the students’ unlimited resolve in the face of tuition increases and the Quebec government’s unwavering stance on the issue.

A continual loop of students will take turns marching for an hour at a time throughout the day.


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Striking students mass in downtown Montreal for 'people's gathering'

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But the warmest applause seemed to be reserved for Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois, a spokesperson for CLASSE, an umbrella group student organizations, who told his audience that the past eight weeks had been a learning experience for those who marched.

“We learned what justice was,” he said. “We learned what pepper spray is, we learned what tear gas smells like, but most of all, we learned what resistance is.

“By the hundreds of thousands, we learned to fight, we learned to fight as we never have before ... They have harder nightsticks, they have thicker armour, they have the dumber newspapers and they have the thicker wallets.

“But we have the courage of the oppressed and we have the strength of the multitude.

“And most of all we have (the knowledge) that we’re right.”

www.montrealgazette.com/news/Striking+students+mass+downtown+Montreal+people+gathering/6428438/story.html#ixzz1redgWf3v

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Quebec government will back down in tuition fee fight, expert says quote

About 185,000 CEGEP and university students are boycotting classes over the Quebec government’s plan to raise university tuition rates by $325 a year for five years.

“The mobilization is so strong,” said Alain-G. Gagnon, a political science professor at the Université du Québec à Montréal, who called the number of striking students “unprecedented.”

Gagnon said he believes the government will have to back down “otherwise the students will not return — in the sense that they will block the system.”

“And no government, I don’t think, can simply say ‘okay, this session is going to be abandoned or cancelled,’ because then you have this group (of students) and a new group coming in.”

While the prospect of two cohorts in school at the same time can’t be ruled out, Gagnon said when it happened at Ontario universities when the province did away with Grade 13, “it was hell for everyone.”....

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Quebec+government+will+back+down+tuition+fight+expert+says/6432046/story.html#ixzz1reg6ym2M

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CKUT IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE QUEBEC STUDENT GENERAL STRIKE

Radio CKUT 90.3FM condemns the repressive actions of the police and university administrators in response to the Quebec student strike.

Since the beginning of the student strike, university administrators as well as the police have used repressive tactics to silence student dissent. From locking-out students on strike, to injunctions, to banning student activists from campuses, to police brutality and arrests, university administrators and the police have made it clear that they will not tolerate political dissent, and the mass arrest of over 70 protesters at a Montreal protest against tuition hikes on April 4th , 2012 serves to prove that repression is on the rise.

Freedom of the press is also under attack. Among the protesters arrested on April 4th, a CUTV producer, Laith Marouf, was arrested, while other members of his crew were intimidated and violently pushed by the police. University administrators are also infringing on the freedom of the press. McGill University has blocked campus access to external media during student protests, and has recently prescribed disciplinary charges on two McGill Daily reporters covering the James Administration Building occupation.

As a campus-community based radio station, we must take a stand for freedom of the press, and against police brutality and political repression. Illegal arrests of members of the press cannot be tolerated. Journalists must feel safe to do their jobs, to report freely on public mobilizations without fear of university and police repression, or threat of arrest. It is a sad day for freedom of the press when members of student media are prevented from covering student events and detained.

In addition, CKUT wholeheartedly supports the Quebec Student General Strike and its demands for accessible education. CKUT stands in solidarity with all student organizers and supporters engaged in this mobilization for social justice. We applaud the students’ tireless fight against one of many austerity measures that the Quebec Government is imposing on our society. As a campus-community radio station, we support the resistance against attempts to worsen students’ and community members’ living conditions.


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