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Diplomatic resolution sought in South China Sea standoff

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Bec.De.Corbin
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Yes and despite the US navy being there no US ships have attacked or interfered with shipping or fishing in the South China Sea, the US has not seized and detained crews for money or fines nor are the US Marines standing in waste deep water around a US flag anywhere in the South China Sea. And yet, according to you here, they are the biggest threat in the area just because "they are there" doing horrendous stuff like sitting in ports or patrolling international waters where they, like it or not, have every legal right to be under international law.

Oh and you do realize there are ships besides the USA form European countries in the South China Sea as well doing piracy prevention missions with host nations. Do they have no business being there as well?   

In the end there will be a settlement between the local nations involved, there will be no war or whatever...

Come to think of it: if you look at all the threads here on babble some of you guys have in the near future the USA invading Syria, invading Samolia, invading Yeman, invading Iran, invading North Korea and now we're invading the South China Sea. WTF guys, you ever step back and look at all this stuff and say wow thats allot of shit to be doing a once?

I mean really... 


NDPP
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Hidden Depths in South China Sea Tension  - by Roberto Tofani

http://atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/ND13Ae03.html

"...Most of all Beijing does not want any interference in the South China Sea. In an editorial published in the People's Daily online, demands to respect the freedom of navigation and take responsible actions in the South China Sea, made by Lieutenant General Burton Field, the commander of US forces Japan, were labeled as 'not responsible.'

'The US is deliberately blurring the issue of the freedom of navigation and the issue of territorial sovereignty and is deliberately creating a type of public opinion to pave the way for implementing its strategy..."


kropotkin1951
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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

 

Yes and despite the US navy being there no US ships have attacked or interfered with shipping or fishing in the South China Sea, the US has not seized and detained crews for money or fines nor are the US Marines standing in waste deep water around a US flag anywhere in the South China Sea. And yet, according to you here, they are the biggest threat in the area just because "they are there" doing horrendous stuff like sitting in ports or patrolling international waters where they, like it or not, have every legal right to be under international law.

Oh and you do realize there are ships besides the USA form European countries in the South China Sea as well doing piracy prevention missions with host nations. Do they have no business being there as well?   

In the end there will be a settlement between the local nations involved, there will be no war or whatever...

Come to think of it: if you look at all the threads here on babble some of you guys have in the near future the USA invading Syria, invading Samolia, invading Yeman, invading Iran, invading North Korea and now we're invading the South China Sea. WTF guys, you ever step back and look at all this stuff and say wow thats allot of shit to be doing a once?

I mean really... 

Blah blah blah blah

Lets all ignore the gorilla in the room. You apparently believe in American Exceptionalism and their right to tell the world what to do. I think that American Exceptionalism is the biggest steaming pile of shit.  It makes me want to puke every time I hear Obama or Clinton or Bush and Rice before them pontificate about leading the free world. President of the World is the mantle that America has taken for their leader.  Of course only Americans get to elect that President.

I'll temper my commentary on the US as soon as they elect a President who reigns in the military industrial complex and sets a course to reduce their arms spending to no more than double their nearest rival.  In the meantime I will not ignore the elephant in the room because that elephant when it rolls over crushes whole countries.

As well I live in a city that is over 50% people of Asian descent of those about half are new immigrants. I find some of the China bashing one reads in the US MSM to be just more yellow peril racist slop.  They are all robotic automatons controlled by evil mass manipulators.  If only they could have a system like America's where the people's representatives have contracted out all the decision making to off book actors in the shadows.


Bec.De.Corbin
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Well blah blah blah back at you...Tongue out

 

Nice rant by the way; I must have a tougher stomach than you, it takes allot more than just people talking to get me sick.


Boom Boom
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kropotkin1951 wrote:

I'll temper my commentary on the US as soon as they elect a President who reigns in the military industrial complex and sets a course to reduce their arms spending to no more than double their nearest rival.  In the meantime I will not ignore the elephant in the room because that elephant when it rolls over crushes whole countries.

That's one of the better things I've read today. thanks! Smile


Fidel
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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:
 And yet, according to you here, they are the biggest threat in the area just because "they are there" doing horrendous stuff like sitting in ports or patrolling international waters where they, like it or not, have every legal right to be under international law.

Philippines says US not needed in South China Sea dispute 2010

Robert Romulo, Philippines Foreign Secretary wrote:
"It's ASEAN and China. Can I make myself clear? It's ASEAN and China. Is that clear enough?" Romulo told reporters.

So if they are not needed, what is the U.S. Military doing there? Why does the U.S. Military dictatorship always resort to military solutions and military threats?

What purpose does encircling China with hundreds of military bases and military comms installations, and nuclear-armed battleships roaming the seven seas actually serve? 

It is illegal since Nuremberg to threaten sovereign countries militarily.

And there can be no legitimate purpose for nuclear-armed threats.

Note to Uncle Sam and the Military-Industrial Complex: The 1950s called, and they want MacArthur and all his wannabes back.


NDPP
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America's Policy of China Containment

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_04_13/71633362/

"According to a source close to the White House, China is now clearly perceived by the American political establishment as the most important threat to US interests in the long run, so Washington believes it is advisable to start to control China today.."


kropotkin1951
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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

Come to think of it: if you look at all the threads here on babble some of you guys have in the near future the USA invading Syria, invading Samolia, invading Yeman, invading Iran, invading North Korea and now we're invading the South China Sea. WTF guys, you ever step back and look at all this stuff and say wow thats allot of shit to be doing a once?

I mean really... 

When you start using terms like SOME OF YOU GUYS when I am making specific points quite frankly there is nothing else to say except blah blah blah.  When you try to make cartoon caricature of lefties on this board you've stopped debating. So yup you got the blah blah. Its was for you and all of your war mongering fellow travelers who post about America. You all sound the same blah blah blah.

Get it now Bec. I'll debate you any time but if you want to engage in rhetorical devices expect to be called on them.

 


Bec.De.Corbin
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kropotkin1951 wrote:

Get it now Bec. I'll debate you any time but if you want to engage in rhetorical devices expect to be called on them.

 

 

That's fine and to use your own analogy: you can keep an eye on the biggest gorilla or the biggest elephant in the room if you want to but you also need to watch all the other animals in there as well; they might be smaller they can still mess you up if they want to.


Unionist
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kropotkin1951 wrote:
It makes me want to puke every time I hear Obama or Clinton or Bush and Rice before them pontificate about leading the free world.

You should show some respect. That's "Mrs." Clinton. I remember when she used to be Ms. Rodham. But "Mrs." "Clinton" works so much better in the country which leads the free world.

 


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kropotkin1951
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The Chinese have seen before what happens when America's allies start "protests" against China. 

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/04/world/la-fg-indonesia-chinese-20...


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