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Thomas Mulcair - Thread #7

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Howard
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I have heard that the Liberals are recruiting candidates for a byelection in Bourassa, as Denis Coderre is expected to step down and run for Montréal mayor. Still, I'll believe it when I see it.


Howard
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Irwin Cotler and LSD will also be 75 by the next election. I wonder when/if they will recruit successors?


quizzical
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Haddy wrote:
Apparently it is being reported here in Ottawa that Comartin is holding a press conference tomorrow morning.  It is being reported that he is retiring or stepping down as MP for Windsor. 

you're giving all these niggling barbs that seem to infer wedges in the NDP.

if there is a fact he was going retire maybe it is stepping down to give Topp a seat?

going to go wiki him 'cause i know nadda about him.

he was the Ontario beachhead in 2000 and is 65 this year seems like a really nice man went to his website and listened to his spiel.

he also announced his 6th grandchild today..congrats Mr Comartin


Stockholm
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Howard wrote:

I have heard that the Liberals are recruiting candidates for a byelection in Bourassa, as Denis Coderre is expected to step down and run for Montréal mayor. Still, I'll believe it when I see it.

The Montreal mayoral election isn't until Fall of 2013 - so even if Coderre runs - he probably would not resign from Parliament for another year...I heard some pundits saying that the NDP was also already talking about star candidates to run in Bourassa if such a byelection materializes.


Stockholm
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I'm sceptical when all of a sudden I see gossipy stories about Comartin out of the blue being posted by someone who coincidentally joined babble just today.


Stockholm
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More details being tweeted about the shadow cabinet:

Comartin - Democratic Reform (I guess he isn't going anywhere)

Dewar - back to Foreign Affairs

Nash - back to Finance

Chisholm - Fisheries

Boivin - Justice

Harris - Defence

Saganash - Int'l Cooperation

Ashton - Status of Women

Turmel - Whip

...more to come


ghoris
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Mulcair is apparently keeping Intergovernmental Affairs for himself (previously held by Turmel). Cullen is House Leader.

Dewar's return to Foreign Affairs won't sit well with some people. I wonder what will happen to Helene Laverdiere?


KenS
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Turmel would seem a good choice for Whip.

Whatever her qualities as a public face leader, she is obviously a leader, and has led this Caucus.

No surprise Mulcair keeping IGA for himself.

Does Cristopherson have something substantive now that he will not be Democratic Reform?


Stockholm
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Here is the whole list http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/04/19/team-mulcair/

Megan Leslie retains Environment. Laverdiere is now Consular Affairs and the Americas, Peter Julian is now Energy and Natural Resources


KenS
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Bet its Cullen and Julian tag teaming on Northern Gateway and other megaproject issues. Good set-up.


Stockholm
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I have to say that i see little evidence that Mulcair has gone out of his way to demote MPs who backed his opponents or promote people just because they supported him for the leadership. In any cabinet or shadow cabinet shuffle, there are always a few appointments that make you scratch your head - but i think these appointments seem to be very merit based


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Glad to see Nash return to Finance and Leslie keep Environment. Disappointed in Dewar keeping Foreign Affairs, though I can understand why Mulcair would want to avoid the impression of punishing a rival. (And I agree with a comment above, Saganash would have been an inspired choice.) Also, Tyrone Benskin would have been excellent for heritage, IMO.

Surprised that Rathika got nothing. And Cash and Morin didn't get more.


Howard
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There are lots of things to like with the new shadow cabinet. It's hard to dislike a shadow cabinet so similar to Jack's and as inclusive as this one. I hope all the MPs will work hard in their new roles.


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Brachina
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Okay for the most part I like the changes, although its a much bigger shift then I expected. Two promotions I noticed that surprised me and I think are an amazing idea is that Charmaine Borg got Digitial issues, which I don't even remember being a full seperate critic before, but which is about time, and picking such a young person for the role sends a huge message, and shows alot of faith in Ms. Borg. The other is Borg's co prez at McGill, Dube gettting sports, with thoughts running along the same lines. I like that Romeo Saganash got international development and deputy trade critic roles, not foriegn affairs, but close when combined. Dewar is popular with human rights orgs and diplomats and blaming him for Libya isn't fair, Parties leaders make the decision to go to war, no one else. Four demotions I noticed are Christine Moore lost Military Procurement and Rathika lost Education, Laren Lui lost Deputy Enviroment and Anne Quach lost deputy health. I think I know why Rathika lost hers, she's had a few really minor and avoidable, minor scandals, during a major speech she didn't know the population of Canada, wasn't even close to being correct which lead to some public embarrassment. Its a shame because I hear she's an awesome MP and lots of talent. Hopefully she'll gain a chair position on a commitee. Not sure why Christine Moore was demoted, she was getting alot of respect for her work on Military Procturement, that's not choice I would have made. Anne and Lauren getting demoted deprives Libby and Megan of thier deputies sadly. I did notice some patterns that suggests Mulcair's stradetgy. One lots of focus on international affairs, with international development critics, international trade critic, foriegn affairs, Consular affairs and the Americas, Pacific Gateway, Altantic Gateway, U.S.-Canada Border, ect... Two A strong focus on the enviroment, with Nathan as House Leader, Magan as both Deputy leader and enviroment critic (don't think having enviroment critic as Deputy leader isn't meant to send a message to enviromentalists), Kennedy Stewart on Science and technology, Peter Julian on energy etc... Three the regional focus. Three Deputy leaders one for the West, Central, and East, making all the development agencies prominet critic roles in thier own right, Quebec Ontario continential Gateway and keeping the intergovernmental role for himself makes a clear statement. Thier maybe some additions later and of course committee chairs and vice chairs have to be announced.

flight from kamakura
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post in the thread for shadow cabinet and also break it up into paragraphs to make it a bit more readable.


clambake
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Ugh, the Liberals seem to have a better stance on pot decriminilzation than the NDP under Mulcair: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/04/20/pol-mulcair-position-on...


NorthReport
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The Liberals can promise anything seeing as they haven't a snowball's chance in hell of forming government. 

 

Did the Liberals legalize pot when they were in power - of course the lying Liberals didn't. 

 

Never mind what people say they are gonna do, just look at what they did when they had power, eh! 

 

Check out HowdTheyVote.com or something like that.

 

What are u smoking?  lol

 


NorthReport
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Do u think he rolls his own?  lol

DECRIMINALIZATION Mulcair clarifies stance on pot in time for 4/20 'pot holiday'

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mulcair-clarifies-stance-on...


Brachina
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Bingo, lets see if they put up a bill legalizing it, or is it just so much smoke ;p The liberal membership has been for legalization for ever, but when in power they do nothing.

Unionist
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I'd like to see the opposition parties put forward a joint motion.


Boom Boom
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"joint motion" - Laughing


Unionist
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I know lots of parties where they'd pass a joint motion. Hey Boomer, we're on a roll!


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NorthReport wrote:

DECRIMINALIZATION Mulcair clarifies stance on pot in time for 4/20 'pot holiday'

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mulcair-clarifies-stance-on...

So, Mulcair doesn't even support decriminalization of possession, let alone decriminalization of cannabis as a whole. He's talking about "not going to jail" for "possession" of "small amounts". In other words, he's talking about sentencing.

The NDP has never seriously pursued decriminalization (forget about legalization) and never will, short of a sea change. Brad Lavigne's  banishment of Dana Larsen from the Halifax convention, on phoney grounds, was the last nail in that coffin.


pookie
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So....Mulcair's clarification is based on HIM getting confused between decriminalization and legalization?

Riiight.

ETA: I recall a number of bablers who were rushing to defend M's call for a "committee" to study the effects of decriminalization, because today's pot is oh-so-bad.  Gosh, I wonder if they still feel that way. ;)


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pookie wrote:

So....Mulcair's clarification is based on HIM getting confused between decriminalization and legalization?

Riiight.

I remember at the time his spokesman came out immediatly after and clarified he would decriminalize for small amounts of pot, the same position he holds today.  That interview was at the height of the leadership contest where he was traveling non-stop and doing interviews everyday. A slight slip in the talking points is not out of the question, aside from the misuse of the term decriminilzation the answer Tom gave was almost a verbatim rendition of Jack's answer about the same question in the May election (including the silly Baby Boomer BS about potent pot). 

 

A majority of Liberal Party apparatchiks voted for legalization, so would most any vote held among the NDP membership, but actual politicians are way more cautious than that and are never going to reverse this continent's prevailing drug policy except by baby steps. 


kropotkin1951
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I am so pleased to know that if I buy my pot a joint at a time the NDP thinks I shouldn't go to jail.  What if I can't afford the price the Angels want by the joint or I just don't want to deal with the criminal element and instead want to grow my own? 

The War on Drugs is a war on people for their habits.  Is it true that excessive internet use can lead to a myriad of mental health issues?


Boom Boom
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kropotkin1951 wrote:

  Is it true that excessive internet use can lead to a myriad of mental health issues?

 

Yes. :wigout


janfromthebruce
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so that's what is wrong with you BB - now I get it! Kiss


mark_alfred
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I think marijuana should be legalized, regulated, and taxed.  Mulcair and the NDP are just being wimps on this issue.


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