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Student strike against tuition hike #5

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Anyone who gets RDI (French version of CBC News Network) should have a look. In Victoriaville, riot cops have declared "illegal" the demo of about 1,000 students (my visual estimate) in front of the centre where Charest's "liberal" party is holding its general council. They just used tear gas and stun grenades to start clearing the crowd. The RDI reporter covering the event live was too close to a grenade and had to stop reporting a few minutes ago.

I wonder what the "liberal" delegates inside will think of the fascist swine protecting them outside. Every tyrant, or bootlicker thereof, can find ways to justify the most heinous crimes. Nice people get involved in genocide too. All it takes is context and self-interest.


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How long is the meeting for? Maybe reinforcements will come in to swell the demonstartors in outrage over this.


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 Student strike deepens political turmoil in Quebec

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"What the students are up against is not just a price tag, they are questioning the philosophy of education put forward by the government, which is to say education is an investment and you have to pay your fair share," Pacom said.

This is exactly what motivates 31-year-old Melanie Millette to continue the strike. The doctorate student in communication at the Universite du Quebec a Montreal (UQAM) said she wants the province to maintain accessibility to post-secondary education for students without forcing them into debt.

"I don't know of any student who is happy to be on strike. We want the conflict to end because we'll be the first ones to pay the price for the strike. But we're fighting for something that's bigger than us," she said. "It's an issue that concerns the society as a whole."

Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois, the charismatic leader of the CLASSE, the most radical student association, promised last month the strike would lead to a "much wider, much deeper, much more radical challenge of the direction Quebec has been heading in recent years."

Pacom stressed that over time the student movement influenced other segments of the population to air their grievances with the governing Liberals, notably over continuing allegations of corruption in the province and where Quebec society as a whole is going.

"The protest movement is part of a wider phenomenon, such as the Occupy movement, that stems from a widespread discontent," added the professor.

The province's major unions are now backing the student movement and they have given their associations $60,000 to fund their strike.

The students also received money from outside Quebec — at least two Ontario branches of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE) gave in April the Quebec student associations a total of $30,000.

Quebec union leaders marched alongside students at the annual May Day march in Montreal, and on the same day, a group of 200 Quebec artists tabled a manifesto backing the students' demand for a tuition freeze and calling for more social justice in Quebec.

The artists are just the latest of a series of groups, such as teachers associations and community organizations, to stand behind the students.

"That's symptomatic of Quebec. There is a certain element in Quebec of people who are disenfranchised. They responded to the Occupy movement, they're responding to this in a way that they are protesting society in general," noted Bruce Hicks, a political science professor at Concordia University in Montreal.

"But as this has gone on, it has attracted a more moderate element who are just upset about the general direction of the economy, society and lack of leadership and so on. Now it's taking on a more legitimate social movement approach."

Some people, including official opposition Parti Quebecois leader Pauline Marois, have dubbed the student strike a "social crisis".

"The government is losing control of the situation," Marois said recently after a night of violent protest in Montreal. "The tensions are palpable, we are on the edge of the cliff."

In the past week, the demonstrations have been calmer, but the situation is extremely volatile and many fear a new burst of violence.

Charest's government also found itself in a hard place after its last offer to students, including extending the hike over seven years instead of five and beefing up student aid, was shot down in flames.

"I don't see how this could end well for the government," political image specialist Thierry Giasson said.

"It's rare to see a crisis of such magnitude near the end of the mandate of a government," added Giasson, who teaches at Laval University in Quebec City.

Charest is in his third term as premier and is expected to call an election in the coming year.

There has been speculation that he is preparing to go to the polls and would use the student strike as an election issue. Charest vehemently denied it, calling it "grotesque".

But his Finance Minister Raymond Bachand said Wednesday the conflict between his government and students who have been protesting against a tuition hike will be resolved in an election.

Bachand told reporters the government's proposal to end the dispute, with more bursaries for low-income students, has resolved the issue of accessibility and it is "an illusion" that a negotiated settlement can be reached since students are inflexible about tuition.

"There is one place to resolve this," he said. "That's an election."

The PQ also called for an election to resolve the conflict and vowed, if elected, that it would not raise tuition fees more than inflation.

Meanwhile, Simon Groulx, a political science master student also at UQAM, said many students like him feel a responsibility to continue the battle.

"Activists before us fought for workers rights, women's rights, and all sorts of minority rights. They didn't win their battle by voting, they came out in the streets and made demands. That's how major changes happen," he said.

http://www.canada.com/business/Student+strike+deepens+political+turmoil+...


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"The PQ also called for an election to resolve the conflict and vowed, if elected, that it would not raise tuition fees more than inflation."

They don't get it, either.


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there's a riot going on right now, with tear gas and hurled stones and everything.


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Unionist wrote:

They just used tear gas and stun grenades to start clearing the crowd.

[ETA: sounds like they were using CS gas tonight, causing nausea and burning sensations on skin]

These too:

 

 

Boom Boom wrote:

How long is the meeting for? Maybe reinforcements will come in to swell the demonstartors in outrage over this.

Until Sunday.

 

 

flight from kamakura wrote:

there's a riot going on right now, with tear gas and hurled stones and everything.

I've read that the combination of broken windows and Liberal use of tear gas is making it quite unpleasant for the delegates inside.


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Quebec student protesters crash Liberal party summit

VICTORIAVILLE, Que. — It wasn't long after students descended on Victoriaville, Que., on Friday, that rocks and other projectiles were being thrown at police who responded with tear gas cans and warnings to disperse. At least two people were injured, one with a lacerated hand, the other with an injured leg. Many people were doubled over, coughing.

About 1,000 protesters turned up in the small city about 120 kilometres northeast of Montreal, to voice their discontent with Quebec Premier Jean Charest's Liberal government as the party's members gathered for a general council meeting.

The march began peacefully, but as protesters reached the hotel Victorin, they started shaking the security fence. A group of masked men started throwing rocks, projectiles and fireworks at police and the building, then moments later, breached the fence and were a few feet from the hotel where the Liberal party is holding its policy convention.

Surete du Quebec police fell back and about 200 riot police came in from all directions. After at least one warning on a loud speaker, police used tear gas to send the demonstrators back about 50 metres toward the street. The riot police then established a human barricade between the protesters and the politicians.....

http://www.canada.com/news/Quebec+student+protesters+crash+Liberal+party...


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Student protest at Quebec Liberal meeting turns violent

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A student demonstration in rural Quebec turned violent Friday night.

A provincial police spokesperson said several demonstrators and police officers were taken to hospital with serious injuries.

Several hundred students are demonstrating outside the provincial Liberal Party's general council meeting in Victoriaville, a small town about 150 kilometres northeast of Montreal.

Windows in the building where the meeting is taking place were smashed in the student demonstration. Protesters threw cans, bottles and golf balls at a line of riot police outside the meeting. Police fired chemical irritants at the protesters.

Provincial police ordered everyone at the meeting to go inside and chained the exits shut.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/05/04/victoriaville-st...


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Apparently, one person had his/her ear "almost completely cut up"... Ugh.

One woman received a bullet (?) (rubber, I guess?) in her mouth and lost several teeth.

Four persons transported to emergency. One with a cranial trauma.

Of course, the guy on TV is mostly preoccupied with the tragic scene of a (completely armored up) cop being hit.


epaulo13
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..it will take a day or to two, maybe longer, to sort out what is occuring. meanwhile we are stuck with msm reporting.


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Surprise action for families and their allies!!
May 5th - 4:30pm Square Phillips (Metro McGill, St. Catherine/Union)
Potluck & singing along outside!

Calling all singers, circus artists, decorators and knitters, parents,
kids, workers, and students for this inter-generational action. Bring
toys, games, and art supplies!

4:30pm-5pm gathering

5pm-5:15pm march

5:15pm-6pm decoration

6pm-6:45pm dinner

6:45pm-7:30 circus and magic show

7:30pm-9pm outdoor movie screening - Le Roi et l'oiseau

You're invited to bring:
art supplies (chalk, paint, brushes, paper, yarn, clothes pins, scissors);
food or drinks to share;
picnic blanket, pillows (to be confortable for the movie);

https://www.facebook.com/events/218423244935815/


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Le Délit français (McGill's French-language newspaper) reports that the bus they're in has been stopped by police and everyone in it has been arrested.

Are the Victoriaville police familiar with s. 9 of the Charter? (</rhetorical question>)


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The HR department is not pleased that workers at the Ministry of Education are wearing red patches at work and in public.

Les employés du ministère de l’Éducation doivent renoncer au carré rouge

Les employés du ministère de l’Éducation ont reçu hier un message leur demandant de renoncer au carré rouge. Dans une lettre, la direction des ressources humaines indique que quelques employés « arborent des symboles en lien avec la lutte étudiante contre la hausse des frais de scolarité lorsqu’ils sont sur les lieux de travail ».

Même si le ministère leur accorde le droit de s’exprimer librement, on rappelle aux employés qu’ils demeurent dans l’obligation de « faire preuve de réserve dans la manifestation publique de vos opinions. Cette obligation s’applique autant dans votre vie privée que professionnelle ». Une porte-parole au ministère a expliqué que des employés étaient mal à l’aise devant le port de symboles associés à la cause étudiante. C’est pour cette raison que la direction des ressources humaines est intervenue.

http://www.ledevoir.com/societe/education/349270/titre


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Footage has come in from a different angle showing the cop tackling a protestor, and the successful de-arrest that followed.

http://www.twitvid.com/SWTEI


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Quote:

The march began peacefully, but as protesters reached the hotel Victorin, they started shaking the security fence. A group of masked men started throwing rocks, projectiles and fireworks at police and the building, then moments later, breached the fence and were a few feet from the hotel where the Liberal party is holding its policy convention.

That group of "masked men" - any idea who they are? Provacateurs?


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Quebec student groups call for calm Meeting will be the first since talks broke down two weeks ago

Quebec's four major student groups are calling for calm after weeks of turbulent public battles and fractured negotiations,

During a break from talks with the government in Quebec City on Friday night, representatives from each student group expressed concern over violent images they had seen and asked that both demonstrators and police cease violent action.

The students will continue the talks with the government over the weekend.

The government's chief negotiator, Pierre Pilote, convened the Friday meeting with the province's four major student organizations, including CLASSE....

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/05/04/quebec-student-p...

 


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Police have stopped some buses returning to Montreal. (Reports are the stopped buses are from McGill and Concordia. UQAM buses are apparently safe.)


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For the second time since the strike began a student has lost an eye to police violence.


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Bus of McGill-Concordia students arrested

Busloads of protesters traveled to Victoriaville, Quebec, arriving in the city this afternoon. Provincial police force Sûreté du Québec (SQ) had secured the perimeter of the hotel in which the general council took place.

Reports from the scene state that protesters pushed through barriers and threw projectiles at police lines. Rubber bullets, CS gas, and smoke grenades were deployed by the SQ. Ambulances were called to the scene, and at least five protesters were admitted to the hospital. Radio-Canada video footage also shows one police officer being hit by protesters.

Around 9 p.m., Concordia campus television station CUTV ended their live broadcast stating that the protestors were dispersing. Busloads of protesters began leaving the city; based on reports from _Le Délit_’s reporter on the ground, a bus carrying McGill and Concordia students was the last to leave. The bus was escorted back to Victoriaville by police, and passengers were placed under arrest. The passengers allegedly under arrest are unable to be contacted, but include a journalist from Le Délit.

An SQ officer who spoke with The Link confirmed that three buses had been arrested. The passengers were being taken off the buses in pairs, identified and questioned. The officer said that most would be eventually released, but it could be “some hours.” He said that he believed most would be charged, but could not specify what the charges would be. Those charged, he said, would be released and required to appear in court at a later date.

Students at the nightly demonstration in Montreal held a solidarity sit-in on Mont Royal and St. Denis for those who were arrested in Victoriaville.

Speaking to The Link, the SQ confirmed that three busloads of protesters have been arrested, and most may be charged criminally. The SQ stated protesters are being removed from each bus in small groups to be identified and questioned.

http://thelinknewspaper.ca/article/2988


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..i thought this was brilliant.
May 3, 2012 - Naked March in Montreal

Description: On May 3, 2012, over 15,000 university students demonstrated in Montreal against a tuition fee hike. This increase will bring Quebec's tuition fee from $2,168 to $3,946 in 2019. Besides, some of these demonstrators were more or less naked.

http://cutvmontreal.ca/videos/1120


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still strike?

 

Question: are you support or against tuition hike?

 

NDP platform says this party will be reduce tuition fees. So i guess I go with student strike against premier Jean.


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it might be that wholesale arrest mcgill and concordia students is good for the movement, since it's so clearly abusive and unneccesary, but my guess is that it couldn't be coincidental that the anglophones were the ones targetted, that's the surest way to de-legitimize this sort of thing in the eyes of the low-info non-college graduate.  that said and as for the victoville protests themselves, point made and message received, great job!  while a lot of average quebecers are annoyed at the students, little by little, as this strike grinds on, they're becoming more sympathetic, something like the demo yesterday only serves to reinforce the idea that the charest government = chaos and discontent.  and on that, the unions definitely seem to be doing their part to link students' issues with a broader anti-liberal message, but the pq still hasn't showed up at all.  they're certainly polling this stuff heavily and deciding that it's not a winning fight for them to jump behind, but one would think that the odd rebel caucus member would show up at one of these protests, kind of surprising.  this is one of those things where they're just - again - proving how irrelevant and tone deaf they are, chasing the wrong votes.


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By way of contrast, have a look at the courage and leadership and direct participation of Amir Khadir, not just in supporting the students' demands, but in standing up for democratic rights in the face of riot cops:

MNA Amir Khadir (QS) almost arrested by Montréal police

[Note: That was from actions on the April 21 weekend at the Palais des Congrès, when Charest was touting his Plan Nord inside and mocking students outside being gassed and beaten.]


Bärlüer
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A protester between life and death.

Words fail me.

Meanwhile: an agreement is apparently in the works. Parties (all of them?) are collaborating on writing a common text.


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I see you beat me to that. I'm just horrified. There are two other demonstrators with "severe" cranial traumas.

 


Bärlüer
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An agreement has been reached. Infos to follow.

The student organizations will not be doing a press conference. Hmm.


Bärlüer
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A student has lost an eye and is in coma. Not sure if it's the same person who's said to be between life and death.

ETA: seems to be a different person—said to be in a "stable" state.


Bärlüer
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Some people on Twitter are saying that there is in fact no agreement. I guess we'll see.

ETA: this last bit of information seems to be coming from the FEUQ, who it appears would not be confirming the existence of an agreement as of yet.


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