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Protest NATO/G8 Summit - May 2012 - Chicago

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Buddy Kat
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It's not just hearing or the eardrum that is at risk ..it's small capillaries  in the brain that also get ruptured from the ultra high frequencies ...also there is a risk as  when an opera singer shatters glass that skyscraper windows may shatter , falling on pig and protester alike severing them like chop suey...

 

Just like everything else in society..if it doesn't kill you instantly it's OK...good luck finding research on these things ..you might find info on utrasonics and infra sonics in some University libraries however.

 

New http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zky2bn0Gtyg New

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-QvXax88J8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0eQgUpkJ1Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns8LD5Q8ecc


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ACLU Activists Aim to Prevent Secret Service from Violating Their Rights During NATO Summit

http://www.alternet.org/rss/breaking_news/907162/aclu_activists_aim_to_p...

"As the North Atlantic Treaty Organiztion (NATO) summit in Chicago nears, the Illinois chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and activists are urging the United States Secret Service make public the security plan for McCormick Place, where the summit is to be held, by Monday, April 23

The ACLU maintains specific details on the security perimeter must be released so that the community can decide if the Secret Service will be violating  the First Amendment rights of people, who intend to demonstrate at the summit..."


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Turkey Vetoes Israel's Latest NATO Partership Bid, Despite Criticism

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-278272-turkey-vetoes-israels-latest-nato...

"Turkey has blocked Israel's participation in NATO's upcoming Chicago summit in a sign of Turkey's determination to prevent its new foe from cooperating with the alliance following a deadly ship raid [on the Mavi Marmara]. Because of Ankara's veto, Israel will not attend the NATO summit due to take place from May 20 to 21 in Chicago, an important diplomatic summit to be hosted by US President Barack Obama.

'Go and tell Israel to apologize for the incident and to pay compensation for the Turkish citizens whom it massacred,' Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said.."


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Police Vs Protester: Feds Sending Armed Agents to Chicago Three Weeks Before NATO Summit

http://rt.com/usa/news/agents-chicago-nato-federal-161/

"Three weeks before international heads of state will converge in Chicago, Illinois for the annual NATO conference, the US Federal Protective Service will send armed officers into the city's downtown district to prepare for the swarm of protesters expected to arrive in time for the event, slated for May 20 and 21.."

'Global NATO' is America's NATO - by Rick Rozoff

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=30586

"The State Department's top Eurasian hand addressed the House Committee on Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Europe and America as April 26 to present Washington's perspective on expectations of next month's Summit of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. NATO is the chief vehicle employed by the State Department, White House and Pentagon to advance American political, economic and military interests in Eurasia and increasingly the rest of the world.

As such, it's well worth the US efforts to provide the preponderance of its funding and military assets and further engineer its evolution into an expanding, ultimately global, military-political network.."


'Jack Latyon brushed aside a long-held NDP policy that would pull Canada out of NATO, promising instead to work on changing the alliance."

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/SciTech/20040530/ndp_nato_040529/


NDPP
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Red Cross Prepares Chicago for Mass Exodus During NATO Summit?

http://rt.com/usa/news/redcross-chicago-nato-summit-316/

'Chicago Illinois is expected to swell with armed security forces during next month's NATO summit, but will that be enough to keep the Windy City under control? Officials are now readying a massive exit strategy to vacate the entire metropolis..'


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Chicago Summit: NATO To Announce Activation of European Missile Shield  - by Rick Rozoff (STOP NATO)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=30673

"On April 30 the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen informed the Associated Press that the military bloc he leads will announce initial operational capability for the joint US-NATO interceptor missile system in Europe at the NATO summit in Chicago on May 20-21..

The last NATO Summit committed all 28 member states to participation in the most ambitious interceptor missile system ever envisaged. The upcoming summit will mark the official announcement of its initial activation, fraught as the system is with the threats of attempted blackmail, fatal miscalculation and the West contemplating first strike options."


epaulo13
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Chicago Bus Trip

99Solidarity has begun sending email updates to occupiers signing up for the Chicago Bus Trips. Please be sure to add info@99solidarity.net to your address book to ensure the updates do not get filed as spam.

99% solidarity is excited to participate in nonviolent direct actions in Chicago from May 18 to 22, 2012. We have secured buses to bring people to these actions from several U.S cities.

We are currently working on the travel schedule, agenda and other important details of this trip. We will be contacting you with updated information shortly. For now here are a few updates:

  • The Bus trip is free
  • 50 people from each city must sign up and board the bus for the trip take place. If a city has less then 50 sign ups, then we may have to cancel the bus for that city.
  • Meals will be provided on board the bus to and from Chicago
  • We are working on housing and meals while in Chicago.
  • There are several direct actions and events that we will participate in while in Chicago including:

  • May 18 – The People’s Summit
  • May 19 – the 99% Solidarity People’s Convention
  • May 20 – CANG8 rally and march....

http://99solidarity.net/chicago/

eta:

Please visit 99solidarity.net often to get the most up to date information and be sure to invite your friends and fellow occupiers to join you on this exciting, historic trip.

In addition, please follow us on Facebook and Twitter: @99solidarity

Currently, buses will be leaving from the following cities in time to arrive in Chicago on May 17.

New York City
Washington DC
Boston, MA
Providence, RI
Burlington, VT
Salem, NH
Philadelphia, PA
Atlanta, GA
Oakland CA
Los Angeles, CA
San Francisco, CA
Portland, OR
We are working hard to add more cities, so please check back often if your city is not listed.


Leigh
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thank you for notes critiquing NATOs illegal wars of aggression.

please clarify similar opposition to Lenin's monstrous aggression if people here are posting links to groups which supported Lenin's behaviour, ie)link at post 29

"Communist Party supporters gathered opposite the U.S. embassy in Moscow on Thursday to protest the creation of a NATO transit hub in the Volga city of Ulyanovsk – birthplace of Vladimir Lenin."

 


M. Spector
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Leigh wrote:

...Lenin's monstrous aggression....

More mythmongering.

This has nothing to do with NATO. Why don't you take your historical grievances over imagined aggression by V.I. Lenin somewhere else?


Leigh
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No. You could read the Encyclopedia of Ukraine, or threads at babble with references. It's been discussed.


M. Spector
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Leigh wrote:
No. You could read the Encyclopedia of Ukraine, or threads at babble with references. It's been discussed.

Yes, and you are of course aware of these threads and discussions because you yourself have participated in them, under the screen name of "thanks", until you got your sorry anti-communist ass banned for "repeated trolling and derailing".

Catchfire wrote:
thanks, you are derailing this thread. Socialism and communism are part and parcel of rabble's mandate and genesis as well as babble's policy. If you don't like this, you'll have to go elsewhere, because it is not changing in the immediate future. I'm asking you not to post in this thread again.

Rebecca West wrote:
As Catchfire has pointed out, this is a left-wing site, with all that entails.  We do not need to explain or justify its existence or its values to you.  Your expectations are completely unrealistic, and you obviously have little understanding - and a great deal of antipathy for - socialism, communism, and babble policy.


Rebecca West
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Leigh wrote:

No. You could read the Encyclopedia of Ukraine, or threads at babble with references. It's been discussed.

No. You could read babble's policy and realize that this is not a venue for anti-communist/socialist remarks.


Slumberjack
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History, when taken from the point of view of the oppressed, might help to clarify Lenin's significant place in it.  As the First World War was winding down, Russia was invaded by the western imperial powers, ably assisted by Canada and Imperial Japan; all of whom inexplicably hadn't before or ever since obtained their fill of war to that point; just as the oppressed in Russia were trying to consolidate a completely justified revolt against their monstrously cruel hereditary rulers.  The oppressed population was under threat from all sides, externally and internally as well by elements supported by the western and Japanese imperial mercantile.  Had this imperialist constellation succeeded, thousands, if not millions would have been stood against a wall for having the gall to raise their objections in such a way against a gang of blue blooded parasites.  Two faced imperialism attempted to deny to Russians what they insisted on for Germany in 1918, which was the overthrow of the monarchy, cousins no less of that useless chap in Buckingham Palace at the time.  The concept of a world wide revolt and a new and universal form of economy that didn't have to divert the bulk of its production into defending itself from such parasites was a solid one at the time.  New forms of thought have since emerged of course, which had the merit of bringing forward new questions for consideration about how such an economy and globalized society would ultimately differ from what it sought to replace.


NDPP
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The Chicago NATO Summit: Preview and Perspective (and vid)

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2012/05/chicago-nato-summit-preview-and-pers...

"...By now it is commonly understood to be an extension of the Pentagon itself, a convenient international military instrument for Washington to wield 'whenever the pretense of an international consensus cannot be achieved at the UN Security Council. James Corbett, Rick Rozoff, Julio Rausseo.."

NATO Heads for Chicago - by Stephen Lendman

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=30808

"A $100 Million NATO invasion is coming. Low intensity conflict may follow. The 'City of Broad Shoulders' may get more than it bargained for.."


epaulo13
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NATO Week of Actions

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Spokespeople for protests and other actions planned around Chicago's upcoming NATO summit offer a preview of their plans and identify resources for journalists

http://www.zcommunications.org/nato-week-of-actions-by-occupy-chicago


NDPP
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More here;

http://chicagospring.org

"They meet on behalf of the 1% of the world, the rich and the powerful, the bankers and generals.."

US Demonizes Islam to Sell Weaponry to World: Analyst (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/05/12/240819/us-demonizes-islam-weaponry/

"The US has embarked on inciting Islamophobia in an attempt to create a global market for its arms production, an American political analyst tells Press TV." Interview with Ralph Schoenman


Leigh
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anyone could see that theoretically, some self-described 'socialists' and 'communists' had some good ideas. definitions of 'socialist' and 'communist' are very diverse; and it is wrong to give any 'ism' carte blanche, particularly at a site that purports to value human rights.  it is also wrong to describe history without considering the diverse experience of peoples living under the control of Russia at the time.

[edited to add:]

it is also wrong for police to attack peaceful dissent, to use sound cannons, lasers, intimidation, arbitrary arrests, batons, physical assault,or any other aggression, as it was wrong for Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin, and those under them, to attack civilians who didn't agree with their 'isms'.  dialogue, rather than aggression.  many wrongs don't make a 'right', nor a 'left', only much suffering all 'round.

 


M. Spector
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What part of the following do you not understand?

Rebecca West wrote:

You could read babble's policy and realize that this is not a venue for anti-communist/socialist remarks.

Or are you looking to get banned form babble a second time?


NDPP
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US Commits Crimes Under NATO Disguise: Gordon Duff (and vid)

http://presstv.com/detail/2012/05/15/241326/us-government-security-indus...

"A prominent political analyst tells Press TV that the US-led western countries commit organized crimes under disguise of NATO in different parts of the world.."


NDPP
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4 Anti-NATO Protesters Arrested in Chicago

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/05/16/241442/police-arrest-four-antin...

"Four anti-NATO protesters have been arrested at a demonstration outside a Chicago immigration court, just days before a two-day NATO summit kicks off in the city. Police made the arrests when around 100 people gathered outside the court on Tuesday to protest against US Wars, economic injustice, and the country's immigration policy. A Chicago priest from Our Lady of Guadalupe Anglican Mission and a woman were among those arrested.."


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Veterans For Peace Calls for End to NATO

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/pressroom/news/2012/05/10/veterans-for-p...

"Veterans for Peace works for the abolition of war, and while that process will take many steps, one that should be taken immediately is the dissolution of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization..."

sounds like an excellent platform for a Canadian political party too..


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Malalai Joya: 'The Whole World Will Be Watching Chicago Anti-NATO Protests'

http://rabble.ca/news/2012/05/malalai-joya-millions-afghans-support-anti...

"The war in Afghanistan will be at the top of NATO's agenda, and it will be a focus of the mass demonstrations planned outside the summit. This weekend's protests will likely face repression. But it's vital that people take to the streets to raise their voices. No one can believe the words of Obama and others who say they are working for peace even while they continue to make war and kill our peoploe in bombings, night-raids and now more and more drone attacks that kill civilians every week and sometimes every day in Afghanistan, Pakistan and other countries..

NATO's bombs will never bring democracy and justice to Afghanistan or any other country"


NDPP
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IEA Resistance Statement : 'If The Realities Are Not Accepted the Chicago Conference Will Be Another Failure'

http://shahamat-english.com

"As long as the invaders do not accept the ground realities in Afghanistan and do not acknowledge the natural rights of the Afghan nation, the Afghan issue can neither be solved by strategic cooperation nor by the NATO members. A lasting occupation means a lasting resistance. The colonial game of the Americans is a total failture in Afghanistan. We call upon the nation of America and the NATO member countries to arrange large scale protests...:"


Leigh
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"rabble.ca is a public, independent, progressive news and information source. In defining itself as "progressive," rabble.ca embraces a pro-human rights, pro-feminist, anti-racist, queer-positive, anti-imperialist and pro-labour stance, and as such encourages discussions which develop and expand progressive thought."- Babble Policy.

I don't see the words 'left-wing' here.  Rebecca West is wrong when she said "this is a left-wing site", and wrong to label clarification of specifics of terms as "anti-communist".  Could someone not be 'communist' or 'socialist' and disagree with the behaviour of Trotsky, Lenin,  Stalin or Hitler, who called themselves 'Socialist'?  Could anyone not question specific beliefs without being called 'anti-whatever' and getting kicked off a "discussion" site?

Given the purpose of rabble, to "encourage discussions which develop and expand progressive thought", Catchfire is wrong to lable discussion of definitions as "derailing",  especially in the linked thread, titled "'Socialism' just fine with Ontario NDP leader".

M.Spector is using personal insult, and trying to expose other babblers, contrary to babble policy:

"You agree to avoid personal insults, attacks and mischievous antagonism (otherwise known as "trolling"). You will not post material that is inaccurate, abusive, hateful, harassing, obscene, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy or otherwise in violation of Canadian law. You understand that racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, classist (e.g. poor-bashing) and other oppressive language that degrades marginalized communities is not acceptable."- Babble Policy.

An oppressive phrase in post forty-four of the Shimon Peres thread is still posted, though Christian communities in some parts of the world are marginalized, like in Palestine [edited to add]by Israeli authorities.  Apologies are required, as i try to do when words are offensive, and to remove offense.

Where is a babble/rabble official definition of  'socialism' and 'communism', by which babblers are supposedly to adhere? 

Nowhere.

In a world where we have had far too much fighting through name-calling, misuse of definitions of terms to justify repression of 'socialists', 'communists','conservatives', 'liberals', 'anarchists' or whatever, while people self-defining aren't even in agreement over definitions, with eachother, from one moment to the next or one century to the next, whether the definition pertains to politics, economics, both or neither, sociology, math, science, etc., in specific issues or overall,..

it seems that clarifying and finding some consensus around unethical, unacceptable behaviour of long-standing divisive issues (like the behaviour of Lenin,  Trotsky, and Stalin, Hitler, or currently abusive behaviour of some politicians, in line with Babble Policy which is  "pro-human rights", would be useful,

particularly as this thread is about fighting (NATO) and is occuring in Chicago where there is a substantial portion of the population from the former Soviet Union, and where advertising and event descriptions are rife with political names which, unless clarified, could lead to a lot of unnecessary angst in the general public.

Do activists want to 'develop and expand progressive thought', from the babble policy, and do they want their movements to be able to communicate clearly with the public, to grow, or do activists want peace and justice to be marginalized?

 

 

 


Slumberjack
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I believe I've critiqued them all at one point or another...Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler et al, while managing to avoid being rounded up for questioning. And lumping them all in together like that makes it convenient for discussion purposes I'm sure. It's all in the delivery you know. Equating Marxist and Communist theorizing and the resulting wish lists with support for the mass murderers and genocidal maniacs of history doesn't appear to my mind at least as a seeking out or contributing to expanded progressive thought. Such dialogue is a regression from thought imv.


NDPP
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PML Presents: NATO Panel -' Social Responsibility and National Security' (and video)

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Video-Unprecedented-Prote-by-Rick-Rozof...

Unprecedented NATO Protester Versus NATO - debate, Rick Rozoff et al

please forward to the NDP re the need to terminate NATO


NDPP
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Canada Out of NATO, Afghanistan-NATO Out of Everywhere: Toronto Protests Against Chicago NATO Summit!

http://www.acp-cpa.ca/en/Protest-NATO.html

Where: US Consulate, 360 University (and Dundas)

When: Saturday, May 19, 1:00 PM

STOP NATO!


Leigh
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Leaders of the G8 need to spend to prioritize employment and social supports, introduce a Robin Hood tax, redemocratize central banks and all banking, move away from militarism, reduce climate change and respect the Earth if they want to stabilize economies.

 -from notes at http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/policynote/2012/05/de-growth-or-growth-m...


NDPP
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NATO PROTEST COVERAGE AND INFO:

Chicago Cops Start Preemptive Arrests on Eve of NATO Summit

http://chicago.indymedia.org

http://natoprotest.org

http://www.livestream.com/chicagoindymedia


NDPP
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Indymedia Coverage on NATO

http://www.youtube.com/user/natoindymedia


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