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http://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/Pierre+Poutine+trail+goes+cold+Saskatc...
I can't believe the proxy server would overwrite data to enable not just conservative election riggers but virtually any criminal in the world to hide their tracks like that...what about child pornographers? If this was the case all criminal activity on the net would be untraceable ..and Saskatoon ? Could it be the cons rigged the Saskatoon/Rosetown Biggar riding? It was a close one in the last couple elections ..and the NDP would of been the winner!
Again elections Canada drags there butt allowing Cons a heads up warning ...hopefully someone somewhere will spill some beans over this rigging.
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Which is quite understating it.
I've got a friend checking in with Glen McGregor of the Citizen directly to see how credible the Unfuckwithable stuff is.
If it is true, I'm sure we'll find out pretty soon.
I'll tell you what is true .... that's the ass dragging of Elections Canada...the cons must really think they have the cat in the bag now...With the speaker of the house ruling in their favor on fighter jets recently when any moron knew he shouldn't have...and the pussy footing around, warning cons to wipe their slates clean..accepting proxy server overwrite excuses...sorry bye now and don't let the next server wipe away yer evidence..And now!
"Investigators must have hoped they were closing in on the elusive Poutine when they traced the Paypal payments used to pay for the robocalls to cards issued by a Vancouver bank, which were purchased in Guelph.
The tantalizing prospect of a Poutine video evaporated, however, when Shoppers informed the election police that they couldn't provide the video images because too much time had passed.
"Unfortunately we didn't have the video footage they were looking for," said Tammy Smitham, Shoppers' director of communications and corporate affairs. "We don't keep it for that long."
http://www.canada.com/life/Elections+Canada+hunt+Pierre+Poutine+hits+another+roadblock/6594562/story.html
Yep this is sure been stinking for a while...seriously what kind of election watchdog is going to let the fake winner complete even 1 year of governing, forcing illegitimate laws and bills down Canadian throats unless they are in on it , dragging their butts ....warning them ahead of time to delete and shred...waiting till a reporter adds things up, before even acknowledging an investigation .
Now we got bloggers that have done more investigating with just a couple thousand bucks! in just 2 months........Could it be they know who really won? Is T. Mulcair the real PM by proxy? or default?.....it has worked in the past where PM's aren't elected they are appointed but usually by the ruling party they were in...Then they usually call an election anyways....but this would be different as the leader has been chosen, already..I can't wait to see the second place finishers in the 200 ridings ..The 18 shows a conservative minority....what is 200 going to show? Just to know that Canadians DID actually vote Harper out and Jack in is going to say plenty about Canada and even more about the conservatives....
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Yes. Why don't we live in a country where there is no due process of law?
Where, as soon as the People Who Know are sure of wrongdoing, it's off to the slammer.
And let me see, who would be the first people rounded up in a country like that? Hmmmm?
And those are inflated numbers at that. I guess, unless you are counting the cost of home delivered food so you dont have to move from the keyboard.
In this case there is enough evidence to at the very least halt the government....200 ridings with fraudulent misdirecting...black op organized crime phones....ALL evidence that points to the conservative party ..mystery servers...court cases on some ridings ...some of the evidence is hard and raw ..some is circumstantial and circumstantial was good enough for Colin Thatcher it's good enough for Harper...simple as that!
In many cases if they believe they have a strong case and 200 ridings looks to be a pretty strong one regarding election fraud they should prosecute now and redeem themselves later if wrong...fat chance they are wrong...even if mr poutine is totally fiction (doesn't exist) it would be akin to unleasing a virus and the proof is the recording that was sent out....put the cons in fron't of a jury and play that tape ...guilty or not guilty? Throw in all the warnings and shredding , timely and circumstantial...throw in the whole conservative computer system and if the unfuckable guy is right ..throw in some off shore accounts ....Guess what the jury is going to come up with?
This is Canada they can keep placing you in a court room for the rest of your life till they get the right verdict....guilty or not that's how it works till concrete evidence vindicates you ...I don't know where people think the innocent till proven guilty idea comes from ..the US? It's never been that way in Canada...We've got a pure kangaroo court system. For once we can actually use it to our advantage...rid ourselves of Canada's most dangerous criminals, the unaccountable ones!
Elections Canada has a couple of problems.
To get the RCMP involved they have to have enough evidence to link people directly to fraud. At present, it sounds like they don't have enough to make a case for even Andrew Prescott (could have been someone else using his computer).
They could release a report saying fraud was committed, but they don't know who yet, but that would still allow the conservatives to blame it on the 'rogue' operative and say it wasn't them. Now that they know the CIMS database was alterted to protect Poutine, its the start of a case that the upper conservatives knew about it, but to get enough evidence to prove that that it was a national campaign and affected the results of the election will be trickier. It appears that there's enough to make a case that the conservatives should have only won a minority, but could they release a report saying that and call for by elections in just those ridings?
I'm beginning to think I'll just wait for the unfuckwithable ibook 'conservacriminals' to come out. That may be a more likely thing now then elections canada putting anyone in some overcrowded prison.
The news stories about Andrew Prescott 'slipping through the grasp' are because they have nothing else to publish right now. There is evidence of those particular dead ends, so that goes into print.
They are very small items. If you believe an idiot on the internet who says he knows everything, then believe me: I dont know everything or claim to, but I have been persuing this stuff for several years now. And it's pretty clear from even the little bit we can see, that there is planty of evidence to charge at least one person in Guelph. They dont because thats not how things go. The perps arent going anywhere, you dont charge people until you have to. More important: the Guelph people are small fry. EC would investigate the hell out of them anyway, because thats how investigations and prosecutions are done. But the larger reason to pursue those leads to the hilt, is that it is the hardest evidence that they have so far for the national investigation. And whoever initiated the Guelph stuff, even if they did initiate it themselves, it is unlikely that there is no trail leading higher up the food chain.
[And the CIMS database logs were not altered to protect the small fry Poutine.]
I notice unfuckwithable.ca is about to do a wikileaks style release , bypassing the media with all his info. I'll bet the uninvolved rcmp will be all eyes despite there "ahem" non-involvement "ahem"...elections canada will be watching to see if they have been outed ...and the main stream media will look like untrustworthy biased criminal conspirators.
No wonder people are turning to the internet for news ....Harper drops in the polls and before you know it there are panels tearing apart every statement Mulcair makes and stacked too like the cons stack the senate ...2 against one 3 against one...all the media super stars are out in full force with biased opinions and so much makeup they look like plastercine facsimiles of a dummy.
All the power to unfuckwithable...I hope he scoops them good!
I don't know how much Larue really knows, but some of his allegations make sense when put together with Richard Lorello's. And it does look like he's starting to reveal a bit more information, do you think he's making all this up?
http://unfuckwithable.ca/
Hopefully you are right about EC, they did go pretty hard after Harper for the in and out scandal, its true. I'm sure they have the name that goes with the Roger's account now as well.
What's making into print from EC is still FOI requests from court filings, isn't it? I wonder what the turnaround for those FOI requests are and how far behind we are in their investigation?
Some of those FOIs done by reporters are pretty recent. Even when they are, its just the tip of the iceberg- the minority of stuff for which investigators need to update the judge for warrants. And further, the minority of THAT, which reporters know what to ask for.
So instead of going after the corrupt ministers the rcmp are going after the ministers enemy's for doing what the rcmp should of been doing in the first place ...what a corrupt mess and I hope people see that the rcmp are first and foremost loyal to the Queen and government just like they protect oil companies from the victims....
So now the public has 3 problems ..1) A fraudulent government in power due to illegal election rigging 2) An elections watchdog agency that is a co conspirator and 3) A police organization protecting the criminal fraudsters.
Add it all up and it spells " fix your bayonets" we have a dictatorship
And it gets worse because if it turns out that those 200 ridings show the NDP would of won a majority it will be considered motive for the Conservatives to assasinate Jack.....Add it all up and it's not conspiracy it's looking like fact albeit some of it circumstantial....throw in another fact that the conservatives want to relenqish Canadian government control of national security organizations to foriegn governments and it looks like they are even trying to cover up there covert/crime actions.
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Well, I'd agree on 1), but not 2). EC seems to be trying pretty hard, I expect its slow doing it the correct and legal way, you don't want to screw up like the police did with the Rafferty investigation and blow your chance to use damning evidence. As for 3) its hard to say. There is probably some buddy buddy action going on with friends of Fantino, but I don't paint the whole force with that brush.
EC has been giving a heads up warning to the conservatives every step of the way..It's so obvious that it even makes national media as a public warning announcement .."We are going to investigate your computer in 2 weeks" ...followed by the next public warning via media ..."We are going to investigate 200 of them..you know which ones they are so start your shredders"..seriously it's so obvious they were making fun of it on CBC comments..so damned obvious.
And yeah you can't paint an entire force with the same brush...but all it takes is one bad apple and the whole barrel gets infected eventually...and they do swear their allegiance to the Queen not you or me and they are convicted to that fact, to the point of giving their life.
You just have to look at the beating they have taken under the conservatives morally the last 6 years to know they are slowly being destroyed from within. It's not like they weren't warned of this demoralization process either..it might even be too late...there only hope is to get rid of conservative control.
Unless they take a stand against the Conservative criminals they will be swallowed up. The only thing that will prevent a full blown Canadian insurgency in the future will be the fact that Canadians are employed and sitting pretty, that's it.
Pogge's blog today:
http://www.pogge.ca/archives/003593.shtml
And these are the reasons why EC and RCMP can't be trusted anymore they have been corrupted , demoralized and taken over by the Cons...the only truth is going to come out by an email hacker or wikileaks event like what is taking place...unfortunatley not to many people have been rallied by the media to take election rigging and government corruption seriously, quite the opposite they are told to sweep it under ....nothing to see here , you won't like it.
Meanwhile, you have the CBC (and others) producing weirdly absurd headlines such as:
The fact that the IP doesn't match the campaign headquarters accounts means only they didn't originate in campaign office locations NOT that the "campaign" was cleared.
According to the story itself (a rehash of postmedia) Conservative deputy campaign manager Andrew Prescott used the same proxy server as Poutine,and, more importantly, the same computer as Poutine.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/05/11/pol-robocalls-guelph-roge...
Just the CBC doing its job of manufacturing consent for the state.
Even for me, I wondered what the purpose of MacGregor and Maher was with that story. So arhehash was bound to be mush.
There may be some pot stirring that I didn`t get. To smoke someone out or something like that. But if I didnt get it....
The other possibility is that it was time to file a story- justify to the powers at be the time they spend on the case.
It takes an effort to read and follow, and they could have winnowed the extraneous detail if they wanted. It doesnt say anything they didn`t already know. Prescott didnt file for the campaign EC filing his payments to RackNine (which you are not supposed to do, but is not necessarily a big no-no).... saying that was part of his honorarium (not kosher, but neither is it something EC would normally make a big deal of).
That someone used their own computer and accounts for the robocalls is perfectly consistent with what was already well established.
As far as CBC goes- Milewski is the only reporter there who has a clue about the workings of this. So they give the story re-hash to the B Crew. At the Ceeb, thats pretty low.
Milewski is a treasure in the midden, are his days numbered?
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The CBC story is itself innocuous enough.
But if the CBC operates like many other media outlets, the headlines themselves (and sometimes the first sentences) are often shaped by department editorial heads, or others, for heightened attention getting, or to produce a particular spin--often to the wincing and gnashing of teeth by the writers.
I suspect that this story might have happened because of a threatening letter from the conservative legal hounds. Any chance to say that the robocalls didn't come from a campaign headquarters is probably option enough. Larue says the conservatives are prepping someone to become the fall guy, this move would be in keeping with that, confirming that it wasn't the campaign office but a 'rogue' worker.
We'll see if it holds for long.
Not a response to the Cons. `MacMaher`have stayed well away from libel.
Who is this Larue you keep talking about.
Nothing like stating the obvious to say the Cons are preparing someone to be the fall guy. The question will be how much credibility they can put to it. We`ll see about that when it happens.
Just for fun I tried to do a chat with a rogers support person, but they wouldn't give me the name to match the published Rogers account number. But you think someone who works for them must be pissed off enough to leak it.
Just noticed Glen McGregor has directly addressed the "Roboconfusion":
http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2012/05/11/roboconfusion/
That article does clear up their intent on that story.
It sounds like they are just reporting the new information they've received, as they should, but that they didn't frame it properly.
So EC has the name of the account where Andrew Poutine Prescott logged in. There's a good chance it'll turn out to be some coffee shop or something of that nature. Andrew Poutine seems to have worked fairly hard to cover his tracks and probably wouldn't do something stupid like log in at home or in the conservative office to do his dirty work.
Larue is Brian-Michel LaRue or unfuckwithable.
The gist of the McGregor/Maher findings are not that difficult fathom
and yet the media disinformation keeps coming.
The "it's all so confusing" explanation is not terribly convincing,
http://www.canada.com/Records+raise+doubts+Tories+Robocall+scandal/66037...
If you dont follow it all the time, it is confusing.
These days reporters are just thrown in from issue to issue. News is news.
So if you are a reporter and dont happen to be a political junkie, you arent going to grasp how everything fits together.
And the editors dont care much. News is news. Copy is copy.
And while "Potine" did work hard to keep his tracks covered, and 'only' slipped up a few times [that are known so far]... that has already been enough to establish a great deal. [IE, "Poutine" once logging in on same computer and using common accounts that Prescott used, etc.]
The atmoshere in any serious campaign is intense and chronically overworked people. Its very much NOT conducive to the kind of 100% care and consistency required for covering up.
Not that the Canadian media has any history of running interference for the Cons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_endorsements_in_the_Canadian_fede...