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President Shimon Peres visits Canada: 'Israel's Dove of Peace'

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Leigh
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thanks, for notes here and in other threads.

the news.sympatico.cbc article says Baird admits Iran hasn't said it would build a nuclear bomb. 

Baird ought to critique Israel and the US and other known nuclear bomb-makers.

also, the article notes Baird's reversed view of economics;  "Obviously, the situation in Greece is very, very different. Obviously there's some tough medicine that's required and sometimes the patient doesn't like it."

Austerity makes recession worse, in France, and elsewhere, and has turned recession in Greece into depression.

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2012/05/new-york-times-reporters-need...

It did give some hope, that people in recent elections chose alternate economics.


quizzical
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said on the news here tonite  he is here to get Canada's support for a pre-emptive strike against Iran. I'm gonna write a letter expressing my againstness to the NDp MPs and Mulcair.

 


NDPP
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I want to know what we are to make of the official flouting of a whole body of law that specifically enjoins the entry of any 'credibly suspected' war criminal, and if entry is effected, compels Canada to hold such a person for investigation and prosecution. That IS what the law says, and it is somewhat alarming that it can be  ignored, without even a mention. Especially after Bush and Cheney and Splitting the Sky. It is known. Well known.  Peres  wouldn't be flying to Spain or even England, (with or without free passage for  his oxygen tanks), because of the very real possibility of his apprehension there. Not to mention riots in the streets by outraged crowds if those governments attempted to permit such a reprehensible mass murderer entry.

I would also have thought it appropriate , that a supposedly 'progressive' site like Rabble.ca, might have reported something of the bloody and murderous misdeeds of this official's long and awful past. And perhaps also, since  his time here and itinerary have been known for some time, have published the details of protests and demonstrations planned to receive Shimon Peres with something other than the shameful servility with which it appears our government and opposition dishonour themselves.

The now permanent presence of an Israeli military attache whose well publicized membership on the infamous 'DIRTY 200' List of Gaza War Criminals,  was announced nowhere except here. This should also be cause for alarm. Not because I described this individual, quite correctly as a dirty Zionist war criminal, which he most certainly is,  but because nobody else did. Anywhere. And believe me I searched. No mention was made by any Canadian media of his Gaza crimes or his position on the well publicized 'DIRTY" list. Obviously official Canada knows. Or should - including the NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair. So now we all know what 'an ardent supporter of Israel in all situations and circumstances' means - it means shaking hands with the devil. On your behalf and in your name. You put him there knowing this was his position, some of you here. You are soiled with him.

I think that we must examine with some rigour and honesty how it is that once again, Canada's so-called 'progressives' have, in the main, so spectacularly failed to launch. At this point in history, with the role of Zionist Israel so central to a rapidly expanding global order of imperialist warmaking and planetary destruction, and with such a heinous and violent 64 year crime spree -  crimes against humanity ongoing in occupied Palestine, and especially in their gestapo gulag inside which hundreds now starve themselves to death for justice and assistance from the international community -  for these barefaced monsters to come and go so freely here  without complaint, commentary or confrontation except by the usual exemplary few - is appalling. Shocking. Shameful. And unacceptable.

Let us hope in his time remaining here, that all who truly understand the evil that Shimon Peres represents, brings to us, and involves Canada in furthering,  will raise their voices and make it clearly understood that he is neither welcome nor wanted here. And that furthermore, the grave and continuing crimes of this dirty Zionist regime, shall not be permitted to continue.


NDPP
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Leigh wrote:

thanks, for notes here and in other threads.

 

also, the article notes Baird's reversed view of economics;  Obviously there's some tough medicine that's required and sometimes the patient doesn't like it."

 

NDPP

thanks and I agree with you Leigh and can think of nothing better than administering some medicine to the minister myself. I can almost guarantee he wouldn't like it either but it would make me feel right as rain again. In such cases, one out of two aint bad..


Slumberjack
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It's quite difficult, if it isn't entirely impossible, for a vast criminal enterprise such as the capitalist state of Canada, to cast judgement on one of its global co-conspirators with any sort of authority.  We're peering out at the world from a glass shell.


NDPP
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Please Distribute Widely (last minute advisory guaranteed to produce minimum turnout)

Protest The Visit Of Shimon Peres to Canada

When: Wednesday, May 9th, 7PM

Where: In front of the Sony Centre, 1 Front Street, Toronto, (Front and Yonge)

This Wednesday, May 9th, Shimon Peres, the president of Israel, is giving a talk at the SONY CENTRE, one week before the anniversary of the NAKBA, and after three weeks of the mass hunger strike by over 1500 Palestinian political prisoners.

Shimon Peres, as Prime Minister, was responsible for the first QANA massacre in 1996 when Israel deliberately fired anti-personnel shells into a UN compound in Southern Lebanon where 800 refugees were seeking refuge. As a result 106 civilians were killed and 116 injured.

Show your rejection of this war criminal's visit to Canada and your support for Palestinian political prisoners by participating in this protest.

info@palestinehouse.com

endapartheid@riseup.net


NDPP
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JDL Welcomes President Shimon Peres to Toronto - Protest Against Killer Omar Khadr

http://jdlcanada.wordpress.com/2012/05/09/today-jdl-protest-against-kill...

"Protest against killer Omar Khadr, Wed, May 9 @ The Sony Center, Toronto @6:00-7:30.."

these people ALWAYS show up - unlike many Canadian 'progressives'...


Leigh
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thank you for critiquing Israel's illegal aggression.

 


NDPP
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thank you

it's a DIRTY job, but somebody's gotta do it right..?

a friend refers to it as 'a half' as in 'an empire and a half'

like Canada, it's another fort in 'Indian Country'.


NDPP
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Anti Khadr [Jewish Defence League ] Activists Downtown Rally (and vid)

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/09/anti-khadr-activists-downtown-rally

"Noisy activists handed out flyers Wednesday night outside a downtown speech by Israeli President Shimon Peres. The demonstrators were calling for terrorist Omar Khadr not to be brought to Toronto to serve the remainder of his jail term..."


NDPP
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'Ardent Supporter of Israel in all situations and instances' meets Cast Lead War Criminal

http://www.timescolonist.com/story.html?id=6590993

It's have fun and make up your own slogan time!

"They haven't kicked his gang out of the Socialist International yet, either.."

NDP Unfriendly To Israel - by Michael Coren

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/11/ndp-unfriendly-to-israel

"...Opposition and NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair, on the other hand, may personally support Israel, and certainly relies on Jewish support in his parliamentary riding, but he is increasingly a head without a body, a manager with a rebellious staff. In fact for someone like Mulcair to claim the NDP is the natural and long-term friend of Israel is an insult to Israelis as it is to the NDP membership...

This is a party sinking deeper into an irrational anti-Zionism, made all the muddier and darker by the influx of separatist  MPs in orange clothing who are intimately connected to Quebec Islamic politics...

You're one of the last people left in the pro-Israel room in the house of Canadian socialism, my friend..."

But we all know you'll try much harder (and succeed!) to be nicer to Israel in future. You can do it Dippers!

 


Lord Palmerston
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This thread is appalling and plays into anti-Semitic tropes. 

The fact that anti-Semitic stereotypes are now applied to Arabs doesn't make turning it back towards "Zionists" acceptable.


aka Mycroft
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The title of this thread is racist and should be changed.


M. Spector
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Jesus fucking Christ on a bike!


NDPP
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Please see definitions 1#

Hi Aunty Semity you back here again?

OK, let's go with the Canadian flow: MODS, PLEASE REMOVE "or Dirty Zionist War Criminal?" from title, thanks.

President Shimon Peres: 'Be My Friend For Peace'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjQdB0C6ypo


Slumberjack
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Friends have weighed in on the matter with their concerns, and not as a means against voicing ones dissent in this context.  In that spirit their motion should carry.


Catchfire
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Thread title changed.


NDPP
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Why did you not change the title as per my request? Since it was my title, i at least should have the right to 'correct it.


Lord Palmerston
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NDPP wrote:
Hi Aunty Semity you back here again?

Why don't you go hang out with Greg Felton?


NDPP
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Why don't you go hang out with Shimon Peres?


M. Spector
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NDPP wrote:

Why did you not change the title as per my request? Since it was my title, i at least should have the right to 'correct it.

That's the thanks you get for letting them wear you down.


NDPP
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A Mother's Day Manifesto and Shimon Peres

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/may122012/peres-mothers-day-ef.php

"President Obama has announced he will award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Israeli President Shimon Peres

According to the book 'Israel and the Bomb' by Avner Cohen, Peres played a key role in the Israeli nuclear weapons program. According to declassified documents published by scholar Sasha Polakow - Suransky in 2012, Peres even offered to sell nuclear tippied Jericho missiles to Apartheid South Africa.

According to the book 'Divert', part of the clandestine Israel nuclear program even involved stealing US government-owned nuclear material from the NUMEC plant in Pennsylvania. This occurred while Peres was in charge. Giving a Presidential Medal of Freedom to Peres is tantamount to rewarding the ONLY nuclear proliferator in the Middle East.."


RevolutionPlease
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Mazel Tov. One more blind eye.

Leigh
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thanks for news here. "Giving a Presidential Medal of Freedom to Peres is tantamount to rewarding the ONLY nuclear proliferator in the Middle East.." helps clarify contradictions.

I also heard on CBC radio that Palestinian prisoners had gone on hunger strike and now the Israeli government must give recent evidence of reasons for imprisonment. Israel had been imprisoning people without charges.

(post 44) is offensive.

nuclear weapons, including those of the US, and nuclear power, in Canada and elsewhere, are destructive and unnecessary.

 


Ken Burch
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When they changed the title, the "war criminal" part should have been left in place.  Even "Zionist war criminal" would have been ok.

Nobody who objected to the original thread title was denying Peres' culpability OR that of Zionism.


NDPP
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Obama Honors Israeli Criminal With Medal of Freedom

http://presstv.com/detail/2012/06/14/246151/us-honors-israeli-president-...

US President Barack Obama has awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Israeli President Shimon Peres, the man who has overseen the killing of Palestinian women and children by Israeli forces in the Occupied Territories for decades.."


alan smithee
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not much of surprise..the Israeli zionist machine has the U.S. government in their back pocket..and as if the ongoing Palestinian apartheid isn't enough to change minds,the ongoing racist war on African migrants (who Israel describes as 'infiltrators') should sicken the supposed 'free world',especially Obama who has African roots.

The impunity and support continues...it's sickening..there's not a more disgusting and putrid state on the face of the planet.


NDPP
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Dear UNESCO: You're Not Going to Honor Shimon Peres? Really?

http://warisacrime.org/content/dear-unesco-youre-going-honor-shimon-pere...

"...There is no other country in the world that continues to colonize, humiliate, oppress, kill and maim wantonly another people, indigenous to the region, than Israel does to the Palestinians. Shimon Peres presides over the highest office of Israel and has overseen the many wars waged against the people of Palestine adn the neighbors of Israel since before the country was founded in 1948. He is the person credited with establishing Israel's not-so-secret nuclear weapons program that poses an existential threat to the people in the region..."


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