CIJA: 'Chief of Canadian Cree Nation Leading Youth Leadership Development Mission to Israel'
Chief of Canadian Cree Nation Leading Youth Leadership Development Mission to Israel
http://www.cija.ca/community-2/chief-of-canadian-cree-nation-leading-you...
"...The objective of the trip is to develop leaders among First Nations youth', said Chief Ron Evans. 'I visited Israel for the first time last year and I was overwhelmingly inspired.
The Jewish people are the historic Indigenous people of Israel. For Canada's First Nations, Israel's story demonstrates how an ancient people can maintain their heritage while embracing the modern world - and in so doing, achieve self-determination..."
and this grotesque nonsense while over a thousand Palestinian prisoners are on mass hunger strikes to protest the barbaric conditions of Zionist imprisonment without trial. It is also no accident that the anti-Indigenous settler-movement of Caledonia now stands shoulder to shoulder with the Zionist terrorists of the JDL protesting Palestinian solidarity gatherings in downtown Toronto.
This is just another example of two settler states collaborating in a little more hasbara and a little more genocide..
First Nations Chiefs Heading to Middle East
http://winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/First-Nations-chiefs-heading-t...
"Nelson will also seek Iranian guidance on governance issues. We will break the Canadian Indian Act,' he said."
The knowledge and ceremonies of our ancestors isn't a historical relic. Yet we still look to others to teach us things that our ancestor's knowledge already possesses.
The Indian Act's days are numbered anyway. Interesting guest editorial in the FHQ breif here on how the Indian Act is already being replaced piece by piece.
to see FN's support israel is beyond me. not only are they throwing a fellow occupied people under the bus, they're also making themselves into hypocrites. how can you on one hand push for self government and rights for FN people while at the same time supporting a government that is doing the exact opposite to the palestinians?
does evans think that when FN people protest things like the kitimat pipeline they should be forced into secret prisons, tortured and killed etc? How could he possibly support the continued theft of their land by israel?
ridiculous....
i kinda see some comments in this thread as blaming the victim. i am Mi'kmaw part of the Mi'kmaq nation and my grandma and extended family haven't a clue about Israel and Palestine. to be fair i don't have much more than a little clue. but i'm not religiously indoctrinated and my mom made it very clear to me while growing up Israel was not in the right.
First Peoples are not some huge monolith of beliefs btw.
i will bow out of this thread now as it hurts.
Norway House Cree Nation Chief Evans Brings Gifts to Israel
http://www.cija.ca/community-2/norway-house-cree-nation-chief-evans-brin...
"Cree Nation Chief Evans bearing gifts: David Weinberg receiving a First Nations 'feathers' tie and hand-sewn moccasins in Jerusalem, last night, from Chief Ron Evans."
NDPP you need to take your anti-First Nations viewpoint somewhere else. Same with Milo 204.
You support Cree youth being taught that "The Jewish people are the historic indigenous people of Israel"?
sorry i'm coming back in 'cause what i see in this thread is the use of the "aboriginal" forum to bash Cree peoples. could ya stop it?
I have to agree. The aboriginal forum is not the place to criticize the actions of aboriginal people. The OP post seems to criticize Israel (so I don't know why it's in this forum), with an implicit criticism of Chief Ron Evans, but post #5 is quite clear in its opprobrium of the Cree people. Good comments, quizzical.
This is an interesting topic, but this is not the appropriate way to frame it.
i agree it's an interesting topic and needs discussion. just not the way it is and where it is.
t'anks catchfire.
So then we move it to an International, Palestinian or Israel thread, since it is an important question and a deliberate attack by CIJA upon Cree nations as well as occupied Indigenous Palestine. It is of critical importance that "The Jewish people are the historic indigenous people of Israel' not be allowed to stand unchallenged. If you don't wish it to be here I can respect that, but it should be dealt with somewhere.
i agree and respect your understanding it needs to be somewhere else.
It's agreed then. Mods can we move this to an 'International News' thread?
Done. I would like to see a focus on Israel's insidious action here rather than the Cree's acceptance or tolerance of that action, however.
Thanks everyone for their understanding and asistance.
I'm sure some leaders found inspiration visiting Nazi Germany back in the day.
Indigenous people of Israel are the Palestinians..I would have thought that FN leaders could empathize with those being oppressed---not the oppressors.
Very disappointing.
A serious question. Whose land do you live on?
ya I agree with not liking the sentiment expressed by the comment "very disappointing". i'd hoped this change of scene would've meant less 'looking down' comments.
anyway in good faith i'm going to try and explain how i see this instance of being being exploited. 'cause i saw it in Cheticamp with my granma and family. well the whole town is family.
they were brain washed and their culture destroyed by "Christian" churches. it still runs strong. the church is usually the largest building in the neighbourhood. check out a pic of Cheticamp and you'll see what i mean. whatever the church tells 'em they believe. they have for generations. when you have your Christian church telling you how wonderful Isreal is you believe. and you believe more cause the TV says too. if my mom had not spelled out the truth i may've been just like everyone else.
in my families case it is the Catholic Church. in many of my Cree friends it is Evangelical. doesn't matter which one they still believe the lies and half-truths. this is an action i think between the Canadian Jewish groups outreach to FN's and is re-enforced by their Christian Church who seem to be all together now these days. and the TV too.
many white people also believe the lies that ALL Israelis are indigenous peoples so expectations of Peoples who've lesser education opportunities than most whites are a bit (fill in blank).
i live on other FN's land to survive because my hertitage land is not recognized as ours yet. we can't make a living there.
i'm not speaking for the Cree People or about this group in particular. only speaking about my experience with family and friends and is still not much of anything large to hold a concrete.
No need to be smug, Captain Obvious.
Very disappointing, alan smithee.
You guys act as if I (A) chose to be born here and (B) have any choice of leaving here.
This particular Chief seems to believe that Israel's indigenous people are the Jews (which isn't true) and doesn't seem to empathize with the plight of the Palestinians and praises their oppressors.
Israel is Palestine.
You don't like me saying that is 'disappointing' --fine,whatever.
With that I'm done with this thread.
How do you get the idea that I sympathize with the oppressors here?
That's kind of a baseless assumption.
Gee....thanks RP.......I wasn't aware of that,
And I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth in the future,K?
ciao
I said CHIEF not PEOPLE
Is this person NOT a FN leader? yes or no?
I think Milo sums it up nicely in #3. The fellow's cultural background is irrelevant: if he proposes to visit Israel as the representative of his people he has a responsibility to do due diligence on his would-be hosts, and this he most clearly has not done - on the strength of his more hare-brained comments in the cited article. For some reason I'm reminded of ex-Toronto mayor Mel Lastman and his remark re: Africa about natives boiling white people in pots, for which he was justifiably crucified.
Rather than shaming this incompetent though, perhaps someone should just whisper in his ear and bring him up to speed. Till then, he's a fucking disgrace.
Where's RevolutionPLease to attack milo and Merowe?
I guess he's simply a pathetic trouble maker.