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Performers and Israeli BDS

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Ripple
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I. Braun your comments are antisemitic and are not welcome here.

oh, and flagged as offensive.


Dodger718
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I. Braun wrote:

You bring it upon yourselves. Have you once... ever... asked yourself why you have been so disliked, and for so long?

I have. I figured it out pretty quickly (cause we Jews are smart. That's why we win so many Nobel prizes and found companies like Google and Facebook). People (people like YOU) tend to hate us cause they're bitter and resentful of their own lives, lack of success and achievement and need to blame other people for their own failings and inadequacies and we make a convenient scapegoat.

Anyway, go back to your parents basement. And say hi to Eva for me, you Nazi loser.


Caissa
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I predict we will be losing another "friend" soon. Auf Wiedersehen, mein Herr.


M. Spector
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I. Braun wrote:

Long time lurker, first time poster. Why is Dodger allowed to post here? He's clearly a Zionist, and does not even attempt to hide his contempt of this site, progressives, etc. 

Also, the fact that Gene Simmons spent his entire career spreading VD to women, and spewing blood on audiences all over the world, would predispose him to support a blood-thirsty state.

Welcome, I. Braun. I agree with you entirely.

And Ripple and Caissa can take a flying leap.


wage zombie
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Dodger718 wrote:

"I'm Israeli. I'm a stranger in America. I'm an outsider," he said, speaking in a hotel lobby across a valley from the walls of Jerusalem's historic Old City.

What a moron.


Dodger718
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M. Spector wrote:

Welcome, I. Braun. I agree with you entirely.

And Ripple and Caissa can take a flying leap.

You agree with his blatant, unambigious anit-Semitism entirely. How lovely.


al-Qa'bong
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Caissa wrote:

I predict we will be losing another "friend" soon. Auf Wiedersehen, mein Herr.

What's with the anti-German bigotry around here?  This isn't happening just in this thread.  Stevie-boy, for example,  is casually referred to as "Herr Harper," as if being a Kraut is a bad thing.


M. Spector
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Dodger718 wrote:

You agree with his blatant, unambigious anit-Semitism entirely. How lovely.

No, I disagree with your blatant pro-Zionist attempts to smear any criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic.


I. Braun
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Heil Hitler Tongue out


I. Braun
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BTW - I've been posing as prototypical, knee-jerk anti-Israel hating stooge. How'd I do?


Unionist
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Just popped back and noticed this thread. C'mon folks... What a sucker play. A tag team match, no less. Jeez.

I. Braun
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No tag-team Unionist. Totally my own idea.

 

You Rabble folks are fun to read. Bunch o' zombies.


Catchfire
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I. Braun has been shown A. Door.

Back to BDS now, friends.


Slumberjack
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Yeah, now that the door has been closed again, can we at least get back to our usual flesh eating and foot dragging.


Caissa
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Al-Qabong wrote:
  What's with the anti-German bigotry around here?

 

I meant to be displaying anti-Nazi bigotry. Your point though is well taken Al-Q. I should have stuck with English.


Catchfire
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Jello Biafra bucks international BDS call, will play show in Tel Aviv

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Someone once said that “punk rock is dead.” Alas, another nail in the coffin was hammered in on Tuesday, when punk rock legend and former frontman of the anti-imperialist, anti-corporate San Francisco-based band Dead Kennedys, Jello Biafra, decided to go ahead with a planned gig in Tel Aviv despite pressure on him to respect and honor the Palestinian-led call for boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS)

Attempting to explain his (in)action to the public, Biafra posted this confusing letter to the facebook page of his band, Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine, and addressed it to the Palestine Solidarity Campaign:

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Believe me, the decision to play in Tel Aviv was not taken lightly by me or the band. We have been through weeks of intense ongoing debate and discussions, soul searching and research. We have met with two peace activists, one of whom is Palestinian and lives in Ramallah. Our thoughts at present are these:

1. The more we know about the many sides to this horrible conflict, the more we realize we don’t know.

2. It certainly appears that both the Israeli Left and the Palestinian Left are divided right down the middle as to whether this kind of a boycott is a good idea at all. It is nowhere near as solid or as unified as the boycott against apartheid South Africa. Setting foot in Israel does not automatically make us supporters of the Netanyahu regime or the policies we all oppose. Quite the opposite, in fact.

3. I agree with Peace activists who have said how important it is for someone like me to actually go there and see for myself what is really going on. Then, back home in America, I will be able to speak more knowledgeably from eyewitness experience, at a time when most Americans only get their information from dumbed down, censored corporate McNews. It was never our intention to play the gig, hang out at the beach, and go home. After the gig I am staying around for several days. Am I going to Palestine too? Absolutely.

We know this issue is so multifaceted and volatile that no matter what I or the band do, someone is going to be upset. Sort of the story of my life, in a way. I hope that by making this trip we can in some small way help bring down that goddamn wall.

For peace and justice,

Jello Biafra

 


Northern Shoveler
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Gee you would think he might just go there and do the research before he made his decision to play or not. 

I note that he had no problem appropriating a whole countries suffering when he chose his stage name.  A few years after a million people died trying to break free of an oppressive regime he adopted it as a cute name, like the Dead Kennedys.  Just another self promoting poser who has been shooting his mouth of for decades.  He probably needs the publicity to sell his old catalogue.


2dawall
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Actually due to a court case a while ago, he hardly gets the rights to DK material anymore. Yet this is a terrible move.

But on the other hand I am not sure if all pro-Palestinian groups or individuals are entirely BDS either.

They should be however.

Northern Shoveler wrote:

Gee you would think he might just go there and do the research before he made his decision to play or not. 

I note that he had no problem appropriating a whole countries suffering when he chose his stage name.  A few years after a million people died trying to break free of an oppressive regime he adopted it as a cute name, like the Dead Kennedys.  Just another self promoting poser who has been shooting his mouth of for decades.  He probably needs the publicity to sell his old catalogue.


laine lowe
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Very disappointed in Jello Biafra. I truly thought he was about progressive politics.


2dawall
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He was active in stuff in San Francisco before and after DK's were formed. Maybe he is just bitter about everything now.


2dawall
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Some are organizing a real response to Jello Biafra's totally wrong move. 

http://punksagainstapartheid.com/

Let's hope more join this effort.

2dawall
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Wow! Nobody updated this victory. Congrats to punksagainstpartheid and thanks to them.

 

http://electronicintifada.net/blog/nora/building-bds-movement-punks-agai...

Thanks to Electronic Intifada, too. And they are sans serif, so so terrific, eh genstrike!

M. Spector
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An Open Letter from Gaza to Julio Iglesias: Don’t Entertain Apartheid Again! [excerpt]

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Dear Julio Iglesias,

We, youth and students of the Gaza Ghetto, entrenched and surrounded by Israeli Gunships, Snipers, Jeeps, F16s and Merkava tanks at every turn, are saddened to see that once again, you will entertain an apartheid regime, and ignore the horrors Israel is inflicting on us.

This is not the first time an oppressed group has called on you to heed calls for boycott, divestment and sanctions of apartheid.

Those in the South African apartheid liberation struggle described you then as one to, “have chosen to make profit in a land of exploitation and misery instead of taking a stand on principle and foregoing blood money.”[1]

You performed twice in the infamous Sun City of South Africa in 1983 and 1984. Your claims to have had “a child with a colored woman" and to "sing duet with Diana Ross who is colored"[2] were unacceptable excuses and no similar excuses will see us Palestinians forget your turning your back on our call for boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) of apartheid Israel. By performing in Israel you directly contravene the 2005 Palestinian Civil Society Call for Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) [3], that has been heeded by international artists and writers such as Elvis Costello, the Pixies, Carlos Santana, Annie Lennox, Gorillaz, John Berger, Adrienne Rich, Massive Attack, Faithless, Gill Scot-Heron, Devendra Banart, Mike Leigh, Ken Loach, Meg Ryan, Arundati Roy and many others, who have put equality, anti-racism and the will of the oppressed against the appearance money and adulation. Adulation from, in this case, many young people who have served in the Israeli Occupation Forces that occupy and control us and our land, bomb our villages and destroy or steal our houses, olive groves and—more importantly—our human dignity.

You must be aware of the fact that we will not be able to attend your performance, because of the checkpoints, control of our movement, restrictions on our education, our job prospects and the growth of our towns and villages. Why? Because we are the undesired 'ethnic group’ for the region so far as Israel is concerned. Does this not ring a bell of South African Apartheid? It does for Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela, Ronnie Kassrils and many other anti-apartheid heroes. Desmond Tutu has called this worse than apartheid and described the possibility of the Cape Town Opera performing there as 'unconscionable”!’[4] Some courageous British academics and intellectuals went as far as describing Gaza as “the Guernica” of our time.

 


M. Spector
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Israel's answer to the cultural boycott: The Jerusalem Quartet, known by many as Israel’s musical ambassadors of apartheid.

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The Israeli Press Service once said of the Jerusalem Quartet:

“For the three immigrants (3 members of the Quartet emigrated to Israel from Russia), carrying a rifle in one hand and a violin in the other is the ultimate Zionist statement.”

 


M. Spector
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In contrast to the tidal wave of Western artists now boycotting Israel-linked events (the Yardbirds just cancelled a scheduled Tel Aviv show), iconic singer and actor Barbra Streisand performed at a fundraising gala in Los Angeles for Friends of the IDF. Streisand supports OneVoice, which promotes a two-state solution that fails to address structural injustices and has long been discredited.

Guests of honour included media magnate Haim Saban and former Israeli Military Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi, who commanded the attacks on Gaza in 2008-09 which killed 1,400 Palestinians. An Israeli propaganda video about Streisand’s appearance at the gala features armed Israeli soldiers running in a scenic sunset.  A shameful sunset in her own career.

Source


NDPP
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Concerns Raised Re London's Globe Theatre's Decision to Host Israel's Habima Theatre

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/12/490601.html

"Boycott From Within have written to Directors of the World Shakespeare Festival 2012 ahead of Habima National Theatre of Israel's scheduled performances of 'The Merchant of Venice' at Shakespeare's Globe Theatre in London on 28th-29th May, 2012.."


M. Spector
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February's boycott target: Cirque du Soleil.


NDPP
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Yuk-Yuks Bringing Laughs to Israel

http://www.cjnews.com/arts/yuk-yuks-bringing-laughs-israel

"Canadian comedy club chain Yuk Yuks is sending a delegation of six comedians to Israel next month to spread some Canuck cheer and learn what makes Israelis laugh. While there, the comics will be shadowed by a CBC film crew, led by Toronto director Igal Hecht, for a documentary to be released later this year..."

Mark Breslin  headoffice@yukyuks.com

CBC Ombudsman Kirk LaPointe  ombudsman@cbc.ca

Call For Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel

http://pacbi.org/etemplate.php?id=869

Boycott All Violators


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