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It's called "Baffling you with bullshit"..It's a common ploy to confuse and distort truth....obviously conservative readers and watchers are easily baffled cause they keep voting for them and fall for the bullshit or at least 10% do..remember they cheat like fraudsters so the numbers aren't anywhere near 30%, like the spinner polsters would have you believe.
Here is something to consider..a little bit of baffling bullshit for the newspapers..
Last election results in seats
Cons 166
Ndp 103
Lib 34
308 ridings
X 65% = 200 ridings
200 ridings are the amount of investigated ridings we don't know about yet ..the 18 ridings adgusted resultede in a con minority...but we'll ignore that.....the 200 tho???
So lets give the Con-criminals all but the – 65% (107.9) = 59 ridings left and split the remainder 50/50 lib/ndp and see what we get???
Cons 59
NDP 103 + 53 = 156
Lib 34 + 53 = 87
An NDP majority govt…
and a decimated conservative scum bucket..now if Conservatives intel showed this to be the case does that provide motive for assasination?What of the state funeral? Guilt?
"Oh what tangled webs the neocon scum buckets weave when first they practice to deceive"
You really have to wonder about the character of every single conservative MP...when the info comes out....speaking of info I wonder if unfuckwithable.ca has his book ready?
I can't follow your logic but I think the 200 is the number that were being investigated.
Some of those ridings the Cons did not win in the first place. Many others were not close and even assuming that all of them were found to be affected, that does not mean that the result would have been different. In fact there were not that many ridings close enough to be determined to have been flipped by this.
I suspect the Cons would still have had the most seats but the difference may well have been if it would ahve been a majority or not and a minority Con government would not have been able to govern so the NDP would likely have governed. Even then it would take a lot of seats to flip to do this..
The 200 is the number being investigated ..we don't know what riding's they are investigating other than the number is 200 ....that's 65% of the entire seats in our country...18 is the number in Ontario that are responsible for Harpers majority, and the Guelph riding is the riding heavily and publicly investigated that shows the methodology the Conservatives used to fraudulently win. It's also the first investigation and has taken a year to not even complete.
The CBC did there own little investigation and found that methodology in other riding's also.....there is also a court case over 6 or 7 more riding's using the same type of robocalling scam.
I'm saying ..I bet those 200 riding's aren't Albertan (conservative guarantee) except for 1 in Edmonton maybe....and probably represent a conservative /Liberal or a Conservative /NDP difference that is based on heiracy...and the second place finisher was most likely NDP or Liberal...We won't know till we know the riding's.
Another thing we do know is EC has been giving a heads up to conservative computer operators of there intent to investigate their computer system of which deletions have been happening ..so we know they are corrupt now and we also know the RCMP have been saying they can't access proxy computers that have data erased, which in security circles is a joke , so they are now protecting the conservatives, and we all know the hate on thru history they have for socialists or anything left...so it's a given they will side with the conservative scum buckets.
We also know from unfuckwithables info if you point a finger at a any conservative MP they(RCMP) will harrass you...
However when those 200 ridings are known that will give an overall picture of who really won the election...I'm betting the RCMP and EC have been instructing the complainers to shut up or else and when it does become public those people are going to complain again cause their riding weren't mentioned...that's what I think.
A good indication is going to be the expose unfuckwithable.ca is going to produce..I think that will be more representative of what is really going on and how corrupt things really are. I can't wait to see what his investigation comes up with. He's already hinting that the Albertan robocalling company is just the tip of the iceberg. Given the power the conservatives have been giving to foreign computer firms like CGI , I would not be surprised....Until I see conservative MP's doing the perk walk I can just assume the country is in the hands of a dicktator.
Buddy Kat I am merely pointing out the incredible distance between 200 investigation files (one opened for every riding where at least one person called) and 200 documented incidences. From there the distance is from document incidences to onces that made a difference to the result. From those that made a difference to the result the number where that difference actually changed who won.
Assume for example if 10% of the allegations come down to real documented incidents then of those if 25% were serious enough to make a difference to the result. Then if say 20% changed who won. Well that would be one riding.
That is what we are up against. It is possible there will be charges but having enough evidence now to overturn enough ridings to change the government-- that is a big leap.
It's 200 ridings that complaints have covered in the last EC update to the committee..I guess the question is How affected?..If Guelph is the flag ship example it could be 100's of thousands of calls....we just don't know yet....and conservatives are assuming it's just the one lone Albertan robo calling company and the lone mr poutine.....we'll see.What company's ..where they were located and how many calls they placed to the affected ridings.
Elections Canada can remove there party status this very minute if they want...causing the governer general to make a tough decision..give it to the next in line or call an election without the disgraced conservative government.Or look at those 200 ridings and give that riding to the second place finisher in ridings the conservatives won in.
If they are going to spend time investigating each riding like they did Guelph it would take 200 years...just knowing the election is a fraud and the government is there illegally is good enough.
Someone will eventually break and come clean to save there ass. Remember were talking conservatives.
Tories [sic] asking court to quash Council of Canadians’ robocalls claim Glen McGregor and Stephen Maher, Postmedia News May 16, 2012 .... Conservative Party lawyer Arthur Hamilton ...plans to bring a motion on Friday before the Federal Court of Canada seeking to dismiss the applications brought by the Council of Canadians....
The article includes these already known but disturbing facts:
Quote:
[Hamilton] sat in on several interviews between party staff and Elections Canada and acted as a conduit for some information, passing on party records requested by investigators probing fraudulent robocalls made in Guelph, Ontario.
It is unclear why Elections Canada agreed to let Hamilton attend the interviews or why the agency has not issued a production order to legally compel the party to hand over relevant records, instead of relying on voluntary disclosure.
Tories [sic] asking court to quash Council of Canadians’ robocalls claim Glen McGregor and Stephen Maher, Postmedia News May 16, 2012 .... Conservative Party lawyer Arthur Hamilton ...plans to bring a motion on Friday before the Federal Court of Canada seeking to dismiss the applications brought by the Council of Canadians....
I wonder what the conservatives are afraid off? I hope the court regects the frivolous motion as yet another attempt by the cons to circumvent truth and justice. Talk about an attempt to obstruct justice... closest thing to a spinning head.
It's called "Baffling you with bullshit"..It's a common ploy to confuse and distort truth....obviously conservative readers and watchers are easily baffled cause they keep voting for them and fall for the bullshit or at least 10% do..remember they cheat like fraudsters so the numbers aren't anywhere near 30%, like the spinner polsters would have you believe.
Here is something to consider..a little bit of baffling bullshit for the newspapers..
Last election results in seats
Cons 166
Ndp 103
Lib 34
308 ridings
X 65% = 200 ridings
200 ridings are the amount of investigated ridings we don't know about yet ..the 18 ridings adgusted resultede in a con minority...but we'll ignore that.....the 200 tho???
So lets give the Con-criminals all but the – 65% (107.9) = 59 ridings left and split the remainder 50/50 lib/ndp and see what we get???
Cons 59
NDP 103 + 53 = 156
Lib 34 + 53 = 87
An NDP majority govt…

and a decimated conservative scum bucket..now if Conservatives intel showed this to be the case does that provide motive for assasination?What of the state funeral? Guilt?
"Oh what tangled webs the neocon scum buckets weave when first they practice to deceive"
You really have to wonder about the character of every single conservative MP...when the info comes out....speaking of info I wonder if unfuckwithable.ca has his book ready?
New http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zky2bn0Gtyg New
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-QvXax88J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0eQgUpkJ1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns8LD5Q8ecc
Why would he want to write a book when he can get people following him just by spinning stuff off the top of his head?
Even a bad book is a lot of time.
Hi Buddy Kat,
I can't follow your logic but I think the 200 is the number that were being investigated.
Some of those ridings the Cons did not win in the first place. Many others were not close and even assuming that all of them were found to be affected, that does not mean that the result would have been different. In fact there were not that many ridings close enough to be determined to have been flipped by this.
I suspect the Cons would still have had the most seats but the difference may well have been if it would ahve been a majority or not and a minority Con government would not have been able to govern so the NDP would likely have governed. Even then it would take a lot of seats to flip to do this..
The 200 is the number being investigated ..we don't know what riding's they are investigating other than the number is 200 ....that's 65% of the entire seats in our country...18 is the number in Ontario that are responsible for Harpers majority, and the Guelph riding is the riding heavily and publicly investigated that shows the methodology the Conservatives used to fraudulently win. It's also the first investigation and has taken a year to not even complete.
The CBC did there own little investigation and found that methodology in other riding's also.....there is also a court case over 6 or 7 more riding's using the same type of robocalling scam.
I'm saying ..I bet those 200 riding's aren't Albertan (conservative guarantee) except for 1 in Edmonton maybe....and probably represent a conservative /Liberal or a Conservative /NDP difference that is based on heiracy...and the second place finisher was most likely NDP or Liberal...We won't know till we know the riding's.
Another thing we do know is EC has been giving a heads up to conservative computer operators of there intent to investigate their computer system of which deletions have been happening ..so we know they are corrupt now and we also know the RCMP have been saying they can't access proxy computers that have data erased, which in security circles is a joke , so they are now protecting the conservatives, and we all know the hate on thru history they have for socialists or anything left...so it's a given they will side with the conservative scum buckets.
We also know from unfuckwithables info if you point a finger at a any conservative MP they(RCMP) will harrass you...
However when those 200 ridings are known that will give an overall picture of who really won the election...I'm betting the RCMP and EC have been instructing the complainers to shut up or else and when it does become public those people are going to complain again cause their riding weren't mentioned...that's what I think.
A good indication is going to be the expose unfuckwithable.ca is going to produce..I think that will be more representative of what is really going on and how corrupt things really are. I can't wait to see what his investigation comes up with. He's already hinting that the Albertan robocalling company is just the tip of the iceberg. Given the power the conservatives have been giving to foreign computer firms like CGI , I would not be surprised....Until I see conservative MP's doing the perk walk I can just assume the country is in the hands of a dicktator.
Buddy Kat I am merely pointing out the incredible distance between 200 investigation files (one opened for every riding where at least one person called) and 200 documented incidences. From there the distance is from document incidences to onces that made a difference to the result. From those that made a difference to the result the number where that difference actually changed who won.
Assume for example if 10% of the allegations come down to real documented incidents then of those if 25% were serious enough to make a difference to the result. Then if say 20% changed who won. Well that would be one riding.
That is what we are up against. It is possible there will be charges but having enough evidence now to overturn enough ridings to change the government-- that is a big leap.
It's 200 ridings that complaints have covered in the last EC update to the committee..I guess the question is How affected?..If Guelph is the flag ship example it could be 100's of thousands of calls....we just don't know yet....and conservatives are assuming it's just the one lone Albertan robo calling company and the lone mr poutine.....we'll see.What company's ..where they were located and how many calls they placed to the affected ridings.
Elections Canada can remove there party status this very minute if they want...causing the governer general to make a tough decision..give it to the next in line or call an election without the disgraced conservative government.Or look at those 200 ridings and give that riding to the second place finisher in ridings the conservatives won in.
If they are going to spend time investigating each riding like they did Guelph it would take 200 years...just knowing the election is a fraud and the government is there illegally is good enough.
Someone will eventually break and come clean to save there ass.
Remember were talking conservatives.
Actually each riding is a court case
The article includes these already known but disturbing facts:
See also:
9 facts about Pierre Poutine and the robocalls case
By Laura Payton, CBC News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/14/pol-what-we-know-about-...
Tories [sic] asking court to quash Council of Canadians’ robocalls claim
Glen McGregor and Stephen Maher, Postmedia News May 16, 2012
....
Conservative Party lawyer Arthur Hamilton ...plans to bring a motion on Friday before the Federal Court of Canada seeking to dismiss the applications brought by the Council of Canadians....
I wonder what the conservatives are afraid off? I hope the court regects the frivolous motion as yet another attempt by the cons to circumvent truth and justice. Talk about an attempt to obstruct justice...
closest thing to a spinning head.
CFL