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Mulcair - thread # 10

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Boom Boom
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Caissa wrote:

Mulcair's silence on the Quebec crisis must end.

I absolutely agree with you, Caissa. I think he should comment today on the Charest draconian legislation. I don't know what's taking him so long.


Boom Boom
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I also hope this tar sands fight doesn't replace the battle over the omnibus budget bill. Both are necessary battles. I haven't been watching QP for a while, so I have to ask - is Mulcair delegating some fights to  his considerable front bench strength? I mean, he's got Peggy Nash and Nathan Cullen, for starters, who can carry the fight just as well.


NorthReport
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KenS
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Imagine yourself as a random tester on the street- delving into how this is playing with people.

You have some questions to eliminate the people whose opinions would never be shifted by any of this [Cons bas, NDP base, self-defined environmentalists, etc.]

Then you referr to the whole thing in some neutral non-leading way, and ask what is it about.

You log and count all the people that give some version of what is playing out in the mainstream media.

And you count how many people mention- even very garbled versions- something that talks about Mulcair's intended message: that the overheating of the dollar that is not benefitting most of is intimately linked to the tar sands not being sufficiently regulated and therefore not being compelled to pay the true costs of its activities.

The number of people you can place in the latter group of people is pretty small. We are not winning anything, and will be paying a net price, until the group of people who get that is of some substantial proportion.


Boom Boom
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Who is the NDP education critic - if there is one? That person should be raising the issue of the Quebec struggle in the House.

ETA: On the other thread I posted a link where Mulcair made himself the intergovernmental critic so the Quebec student's file is his.


KenS
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Boom Boom wrote:

I also hope this tar sands fight doesn't replace the battle over the omnibus budget bill. Both are necessary battles. I haven't been watching QP for a while, so I have to ask - is Mulcair delegating some fights to  his considerable front bench strength? I mean, he's got Peggy Nash and Nathan Cullen, for starters, who can carry the fight just as well.

He is delegating it. Cullen and Nash are out there on it. And the first of the hearings hosted by the NDP on the omnibus bill took place yesterday or the day before. You should not need to watch QP to catch it- the launch of this national campaign took place right in the centre of the media universe.

Did you hear about it?


KenS
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Caissa wrote:

Mulcair's silence on the Quebec crisis must end.

1.] He's busy putting out those fires he started.

2.] You'll find the number of issues on which he is counted as bold around here, is somewhat limited.

On this one, like many others, he'll be carefully calculating the potential blowback.

He's bold where he thinks he knows what he is doing. We shall soon enough see if he is right, or it was hubris. [And if it does turn out to be the latter, he and we will make the best of it.]


Boom Boom
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KenS wrote:

He is delegating it. Cullen and Nash are out there on it. And the first of the hearings hosted by the NDP on the omnibus bill took place yesterday or the day before. You should not need to watch QP to catch it- the launch of this national campaign took place right in the centre of the media universe.

Did you hear about it?

No - the only news I get is online or on TV. So, if I'm not on the computer or not watching TV, I get nothing.  Frown

ETA: Thanks for the update. I think I saw a reference to this on P&P last night.


KenS
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Its not a question if you ever hear about it. If you have to look around for it, then you can safely say its not something going anywhere, at least at the moment.


Boom Boom
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That sounds depressing, Ken, but I guess it's reality.


KenS
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You shouldnt be depressed by something that is a rule of thumb that you should always be aware of.... not directly reflecting on what we happen to be talking about at the moment.


kropotkin1951
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Mulcair's statement linking the Premiers to Harper is just dumb.

They are all equally carry the can for the oil industry.  Clark, Redford and Wall don't listen to Harper although they do take their direction from others who live in Calgary.  Tom needs to attack the tar sands and the politicians that support it but with the real truths not inaccurate rhetoric.


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Long thread.


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