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After Osama Bin Laden's Death IV

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CIA Has Created Own Taliban To Wreak Terror, Havoc On Pakistan, Claims Pak Paper

http://www.legitgov.org/CIA-has-created-own-Taliban-wreak-terror-havoc-P...

"CIA operatives have infiltrated the Taliban and Al Qaeda networks and have created their own TTP force..."

It Begins: US Starting The Baluchi Insurrection

http://landdestroyer.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/it-begins-us-starting-the-...

"...In the shadow of the 'Bin Laden' media circus and increasingly aggressive rhetoric between Washington and Islamabad, the corporate-financier funded NGOs that fomented the 'Arab Spring' are now cultivating a united Baluchi front ahead of a proposed US-funded Baluchistan insurrection.."


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M. Spector wrote:
Actually the official story (or one of the official stories, at any rate) is that under torture KSM gave up the name of the "courier" that the U.S. death squads followed around for five years until he led them to bin Laden.

Not true according to John McCain and CIA director Leon Panetta:

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"The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti - the nickname of the al-Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden - as well as a description of him as an important member of al-Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed's real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in al-Qaeda."

Whomever fingered the courier, CIA claimed previously that the information wasn't produced by torture. So if the inquisition believes their own lies, then torture still isn't an effective method for discovering truth. They could always waterboard themselves as a check. And we know they are lying whenever their lips move.

What courier? What did they do with Elvis' body? It's a pack of lies. They are pathological liars not to be trusted any farther than we could throw them. 


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9/11 Truth on The Agenda

http://www.tvo.org/TVO/WebObjects/TVO.woa?videoid?943276134001

 

It's too bad they ran out of satellite time with Richard Gage in California. I think Jonathan would not have kept up with Gage on the evidence for controlled demolitions. He's written a juvenile book focused mainly on name calling and smears of truthers sooner than discussing evidence. He even thinks the US feds were being straight up about the Gulf of Tonkin incident. He's another coincidence theorist, which is an interesting POV but not very rational or logical where science or truth and justice are concerned. Apparently Jonathan is a very trusting person to the point of having a naive view of the world and history in general. He sees major historical evensts as either black or white without the controversial grey in between, and that's not reality. He's supposed to be a journalist, but even journalists are curious and truth seekers - Jonathan is neither.


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Does this Fidel guy think the Moon Landing was faked as well?

Fidel
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Ah, pictures! Do you do origami and finger painting, too?


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Severity, you're clearly here to stir things up so, like, bye.


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BS by MR. FISH

 


remind
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The guy in the picture certainly is in favour of cruelty to animals.


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mmphosis wrote:

BS by MR. FISH

 

 

Oooh, pitchers!

 

How about this one?

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What tune will yanquis be braying when Bush and Obama recieve their justly-deserved bullets to the head?


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remind wrote:

The guy in the picture certainly is in favour of cruelty to animals.

 

You know, I'm all for slinging shots at people who take pictures like that. Contextually, it was just to make fun of Fidel - and I think around here there is quite a bit of give and take with that. Heck, I'd say what he did is loads more clever than most of the jibes that get toss about in these parts. However, I do not get where this 'cruelty to animals' thing is coming from? The guy may be banned, but I'd never attach the term 'cruelty to animals' to a person's picture without very, very good cause.


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I THINK remind is talking about the "tin foil" picture...although for my money, Tin Foil Cat actually looks kinda cute(and probably got revenge later by shredding various household items it it was offended by its imposed headgear). 


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The cat does not look happy...


Ken Burch
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To me, it looks like it's pouting in a pop star publicity photo kind of way.  I wouldn't have posted the photo myself, but I'm pretty sure that cat can settle accounts on its own terms.


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servety wrote:
Does this Fidel guy think the Moon Landing was faked as well?

Oh someone give it life again. He looks like he could be good fun.


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Severity, you're clearly here to stir things up so, like, bye
Yes Servety, we will not accept counterrevolutionary thinking at Rabble Babble. Comrade Rebecca West sends you off to cyber Gulag for re-education!

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You're not being "counter-revolutionary".  TO do that, you'd actually have to be making a coherent case against whatever it is you think "the Revolution" is and for an alternative course of action.  Rather than do that, your posts are just endless variations of the them of "you lefties are fulla crap".


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Seems like the re-education didn't work.  He's gone.


Ken Burch
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remember to Photoshop him out of the group portraits and put in a shrub in his place.


Fidel
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Ken Burch wrote:

remember to Photoshop him out of the group portraits and put in a shrub in his place.

 

Just remembered I saw a photo of severus standing next to Elvis bin Laden in Vegas. The resemblance in uncanny. Mustve bin'a Laden family vacation or something. har har


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Pakistani, NATO Forces Clash Amid Rising US-Pakistani Tensions

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/may2011/paki-m18.shtml

"...The US has used the Bin Laden affair - the revelation that OBL lived in Pakistan, including for several years in the garrison city of Abbottabad - to pressure Islamabad to escalate the counter insurgency war it has waged in Pakistan's Pashtun tribal areas for the past several years. This aims to help suppress opposition to the US occupation of Afghanistan..."


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On The Assassination of OBL: There is Much To Say  - by Noam Chomsky

http://mostlywater.org/assassination_osama_bin_laden_there_much_more_say

"...even the most obvious and elementary facts should provide us with a good deal to think about..."

 

Bin Laden Death Script & The Needed Trigger For Next Stop Pakistan  -  by Sybel Edmonds

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28146.htm

"When and why now', keeps pointing to Pakistan as the next probable occupation target for our never-dying neo con objective makers...As in all other wars of ours, we'll have zero to say, zilch to gain and plenty to lose. They have the cards and we are the piled up tokens on the table.."

 


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Bin Laden Died of Natural Causes: Former CIA Agent

http://presstv.com/detail/2012/05/19/242057/osama-bin-laden-died-of-natu...

"A former agent of the CIA has revealed that al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had died of natural causes five years before the US announced his death.."


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Thanks NDPP.

presstv wrote:
He says the bodyguard disclosed to the US the exact place of burial in the mountains.

"There was no assault. I know the American operations from the inside: they find the grave, dig out bin Laden and tell everyone about this. They need to show how technologically the security services worked, how each step was controlled, and then present it as a great victory to show that taxpayers are not paying taxes for nothing," he said.

Washington announced on May 2, 2011 that Bin Laden was killed by US forces in his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

The lack of transparency over bin Laden's death has cast further doubt over the announcement.

That makes some sense for me. After the contract jobs in Bosnia and Macedonia, bin Laden and Al-CIA'da go on to fight for the CIA in Chechnya where he dies of natural causes by 2006. They dig up his body and destroy the remains. Use Elvis bin Laden's fake death in a major announcement to prop-up Wall Street's boy Obama bin Lyin to Americans at a more politically expedient time.

Usama bin Laden (March 10, 1957 - June 26, 2006)


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I don't think so. I find it hard to believe the mostly right-wing minded special forces community would keep their mouths shut and let Obama get the credit for killing bin Laden when, if you believe this story, he doesn't deserve it. They might be tight lipped but I really doubt they'd all be tight lipped about that. Especially when some of you guys are flying the other conspiracy the team was then killed off in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan (which it wasn't). There's no way everyone in the SF community that was in the know (and there would be a bunch more than just the actual assault team that went in) would stay silent about something like killing off their own just to cover a conspiracy like that to make Obama look good and thus improve his re-election chances. No fucking way...

 

File this one under PressTV (Iranian state media) bullshit...LOL


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Although it may be automatic and habitual for the Yanqui to blame Iran for everything these days - the story actually comes from a Turkish political figure, Berkan Yashar, interviewed originally by Russia's Channel One. You will find the story widely reported in various international media. As for who, if anyone, they killed in Pakistan and disposed of in the ocean - who knows? But of course your government never lies.


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severity wrote:
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Severity, you're clearly here to stir things up so, like, bye
Yes Servety, we will not accept counterrevolutionary thinking at Rabble Babble. Comrade Rebecca West sends you off to cyber Gulag for re-education!

Gosh, being an emblem of the repressive West ... I'd like to thank my Grandfather for being a shit-disturber when it was illegal to be a pinko commie, and the agent I don't have because I can't make any money for myself, never mind for hangers-on? oh,   damn, they're playing the music ... See you at the after party?


NDPP
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Servity's cat is not a happy camper either...


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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:
No fucking way...File this one under PressTV (Iranian state media) bullshit...LOL

Because there's no fucking way Special Forces, the CIA, or any other secret organization would ever countenance operating outside the norms of established social behaviour.  The Phoenix Program was just another conspiracy theory.  And there's no way a lifetime of pounding rocks at Leavenworth as the least of the available cures for loose lips would chance to persaude members into sticking with the club.  Its for the ultimate good of the country after all.  Isn't that what they told the Einsatzgruppen?  Given the right conditions people are capable of anything.


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