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Student strike #9 -- jusqu'à la victoire

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6079_Smith_W
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OFL calls for Ontario students to follow Quebec's lead. Out of province unions helping fund student protests.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/22/pol-cp-union-out-of-pro...


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epaulo13
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..2 seperate demos going on. one legal and one that defies the law. cutv estimates 1/2 a millon people total.


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NYC:  Solidarité avec les étudiants québécois!
http://occupywallst.org/article/solidarity-quebec/  Today in New York City, we will demonstrate in solidarity with Quebec students and in defense of our right to protest. An increase in the powers of the police and the state anywhere is an attack on us everywhere.

 


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Paris: rally in support of Quebec students. Vive la France. Link.


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"Sellout student orgs & unions like FECQ and FTQ have shared demo route with police. Instead of defiance they collaborate."

Jaggi Singh (jaggimontreal) on Twitter


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CBC: march has gone past 250,000 people - march takes three hours to pass any single point.

Mark Kelley will have a feature live in Montreal at 8 pm EST tonight on CBC Newsworld's Connect.

ETA: Kelley said what is obvious to everyone: that Bill 78 has energised the student movement.


6079_Smith_W
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"Sellout student orgs & unions like FECQ and FTQ have shared demo route with police. Instead of defiance they collaborate."

Jaggi Singh (jaggimontreal) on Twitter

 

Right. 

The resistance is getting too big so obviously it is time to fragment it by denouncing those who aren't real revolutionaries. 

That will defeat the government, for sure!

 

 


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Just protecting their asses from financial repercussions. It is the normal response of BC trade unions to injunctions and legislation stripping workers of rights and benefits. The "protect the brick and mortar" mentality is what makes a general strike impossible.


epaulo13
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..my thoughts exactly 6079 smith!

eta

..it's not the union movements that are spearheading global change it's those that call for inclusion that includes union members.


6079_Smith_W
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If some organizations want to oppose the tuition hikes and Law 78 and feel they have to comply with the law while doing it, big deal.

And as for those "protect the bricks and mortar' unions, some of them, even outside Quebec, are providing financial support for this struggle. Should the students send that back on principle? 

Fuck these purity tests. Keep your eye on the ball.

 

 


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From Montreal to Madrid!

http://www.rt.com/news/spain-protest-austerity-education-895/

"Millions in the streets. Spain protests cuts to education. 'They are stealing from us in every possible way, and that can't be allowed to happen.."


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6079_Smith_W wrote:

If some organizations want to oppose the tuition hikes and Law 78 and feel they have to comply with the law while doing it, big deal.

 

I guess the big deal is that by voluntarily submitting to what they've previously denounced as an unjust law it could be seen as weakening their own argument against it. Another point is that their decision to share the route with police effectively takes that decison away from every other person and group participating in the march. And yet another point is that it's a failure to recognize their own power at this moment. IMO, if there's ever a moment to assert your political rights and not defer to the authority of the state it's on a day when you are able to mobilize 200-300 400-500 thousand people in the streets.


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Jean Charest's new idea for dealing with student protests underestimated the size of the crowd.

Boom Boom
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I wonder what's going through Charest's mind as he watches all this unfold today - but not just in Montreal, but also internationally? Laughing

 

HuffPost: Quebec Protests Go International And Mock Emergency Law On Day 100 Of Student Strikes 


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Unfortunately he's not suggesting that they'll threaten Harper's government, but rather, the fallout may eventually threaten his ability to keep Quebec within the federation. Which might not be such a bad thing for Quebec, but I'd rather see Harper go than Quebec.


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Thanks. I was having trouble understanding his position, if he has one.


6079_Smith_W
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Freedom 55 wrote:

If there's ever a moment to assert your political rights and not defer to the authority of the state it's on a day when you are able to mobilize 200-300 400-500 thousand people in the streets.

I suppose that's one way of looking at it. I don't actually think one has to go out and break a law in order to demonstrate against it - unless there's a compelling reason, that is. Specifically, if some people don't feel they are able to meet the possible financial and physical risks, who has any right to tell them that they can't make their voices heard on their own terms? 

Besides, it seems like we have two authorities here to defer to - the government telling me WHERE the real protesters are, and Mr. Singh telling me WHO the real protesters are. 

But anyway, that's just my opinion. I do see the sense in yours , and I think people can take that stand and get into some civil disobedience if they want.


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Could Montreal protests expand across the country?

The Quebec protest movement could spread across the country, according to a group representing Canada's university teachers.

This comes as thousands marched through the streets of Montreal on the 100th day of protests against a hike in tuition fees.

The demonstrations have people talking and Jim Tusk with the Canadian Association of University Teachers says that lays the groundwork for the movement to expand.

"I think there are going to be discussions in student organizations and in families across this country in light of what is happening in Quebec and that will turn to what's happened in their own province and whether that is justified or not," he explained.

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The Canadian Federation of Students says it will be a big topic of discussion at the groups annual general meeting at the end of the month.

http://www.680news.com/news/national/article/365450--could-montreal-prot...


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I'm willing to negotiate: Courchesne

Education Minister Michelle Courchesne reiterated Tuesday that she is willing to negotiate with student leaders to end the tuition dispute.

“I am absolutely prepared for a meeting, totally,” Courchesne told reporters, adding that she has spoken to Léo Bureau-Blouin, president of the Fédération étudiante collègiale du Québec, and Martine Desjardins, president of the Fédération étudiante universitaire du Québec, but not to Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois, spokesperson for Quebec’s largest and most militant student association, the Coalition large de l’Association pour une solidarité syndicale étudiante.

“An association that calls for civil disobedience, the non-respect for the law, I have the impression they will not return to the table,” Courchesne said.

“Will they respect the decisions of the courts? Will they respect the law?” she added.

“I presuppose that they do not want to come back to the table.”

The FECQ and the FEUQ maintain they will not talk without the CLASSE at the table.....

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/willing+negotiate+Courchesne/6659698/story.html#ixzz1vemauPXR

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And those giving the orders are not "psychopaths". They are respectable, well-dressed, and very dangerous.

 

I know where you're coming from but I didn't like this. I don't think sarcasm plays.

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Stirring Canada From Its Slumber  - by Benjamin Campbell

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/05/22/stirring-canada-from-its-slumber/

"...Indeed we haven't heard talk of class struggle in decades, yet Canadians rarely seem to ask why that is. Most Canadians seem not to recognize the rightward shift of their entire political spectrum, yet alone that it has been a global phenomenon. The decline of the New Democratic Party from Tommy Douglas to Thomas Mulcair has paralleled The Third War of the UK's Labour Party, the corporatization of the American Democratic Party , and the sellout of Greece's ostensible Socialists.

This subordination of politics to business interests has been a steadily increasing for decades and proves Nadeau-Dubor's basic point about the iron grip that the global investor class has on our basic institutions of government..."

And still no word on the strike from Charest's former colleague Mulcair?


Boom Boom
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And still no word on the strike from Charest's former colleague Mulcair?
I posted his May 8th interview earlier, he talked about the strike but not a whole lot.

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Freedom 55 wrote:

I'm hearing from friends that buses and Metros have been ordered by STM management to refuse transit to students heading to and from demos.

 

...but it sounds like the transit union knows which side they're on:

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There was a show of solidarity from the Montreal transit workers union as hundreds of people turned out for the 29th evening protest, which was a rowdy but mainly peaceful march.

The powerful union, which denounced the law, urged its members not to drive buses used to transport police during the demonstrations. City buses are used to shuttle riot squads during the marches and often to house prisoners after arrests.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/22/tens-of-thousands-turn-out-in-mo...


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There's been more than a few significant developments since May 8th...


cco
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My friend (and journalist) Justin Ling was arrested half an hour ago, though he now tweets he's been released. >:(

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Yup.


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