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NDP Leadership Race

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janfromthebruce
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I was just so amazed that you something so cool like that with "comic relief"


RevolutionPlease
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Glad to see, it's such a joke. Where did I miss the laugh track? Social justice ain't a joke. Coming soon to a town near you.

Caissa
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Every leadership race comes with its own humour.


Caissa
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Boom Boom wrote:
I can't imagine Jack Layton being so silent on the issue of the Quebec students. I think he would have stood amongst them and challenged Charest straight out. But Mulcair ain't Layton.


JeffWells
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Caissa wrote:

Boom Boom wrote:
I can't imagine Jack Layton being so silent on the issue of the Quebec students. I think he would have stood amongst them and challenged Charest straight out. But Mulcair ain't Layton.

Sincerely and respectfully, I doubt he would.

I don't mean this as harshly as it may sound, because it's a tribute to his natural empathy, but I think Jack excelled at convincing people he was on their side without his needing to do much of anything. Or even sometimes, when he would do the opposite. Like, for instance, when he apologized to the Israeli ambassador for Libby Davies, or expressed his regret for Brigette DePape's Senate protest. I think many on the party's left felt disappointed by such actions, while excusing them as things he had to do. 

I think whatever Jack's remarks, they would have been extremely circumspect. No less so than Mulcair's, and maybe even moreso because he represented a Toronto rather than a Montreal riding. Nonetheless, the impression would still be stronger with Jack than it is with Mulcair that he stood with the protesters.


Caissa
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I look forward to the first leadership review. I hope we rank and file get the opportunity to cast a ballot.


Sean in Ottawa
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I thinkit is the comments more than the ballots that will be important.


Brachina
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JeffWells wrote:

Caissa wrote:

Boom Boom wrote:
I can't imagine Jack Layton being so silent on the issue of the Quebec students. I think he would have stood amongst them and challenged Charest straight out. But Mulcair ain't Layton.

Sincerely and respectfully, I doubt he would.

I don't mean this as harshly as it may sound, because it's a tribute to his natural empathy, but I think Jack excelled at convincing people he was on their side without his needing to do much of anything. Or even sometimes, when he would do the opposite. Like, for instance, when he apologized to the Israeli ambassador for Libby Davies, or expressed his regret for Brigette DePape's Senate protest. I think many on the party's left felt disappointed by such actions, while excusing them as things he had to do. 

I think whatever Jack's remarks, they would have been extremely circumspect. No less so than Mulcair's, and maybe even moreso because he represented a Toronto rather than a Montreal riding. Nonetheless, the impression would still be stronger with Jack than it is with Mulcair that he stood with the protesters.

Agreed. This thinking is the true beginning of the whole bigger then life thing. If only Tommy Douglas were alive... Or if only Jack Layton was alive... Where people fill in the blanks with there own beliefs. Truth is no one,can be sure what he would have said because he's RIP, but I do believe JW is closer to the mark. We'll never be sure though.

mtm
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Caissa wrote:

I look forward to the first leadership review. I hope we rank and file get the opportunity to cast a ballot.

 

Oh, come on! I know this whole thread is supposed to be sarcastic, but I know you and some people out there actually mean this.  It feels almost like you're trying to get around the criticism by saying it ironically, but actually meaning it.

No matter what Mulcair does, it won't be good enough for some, lol.  Jack isn't coming back, and nobody would have been like him, lets not try and compare anyone to him and let Mulcair do it Mulcair's way.  Its the only way we have.


Sean in Ottawa
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I think Layton would not have. The story has too many political risks and not anything to gain at this point. I think later comment can be made but right now it would not have been a good idea for a party leader from Ottawa to wade in.

Party leaders do not have to do everything and lead everything. They also can and should at times wait and give things a chance to calm down. The issue of the affordability of education is not going away this week.

The NDP has policy positions on education from a federal perspective already.

 


6079_Smith_W
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@ Sean

Correct.

Remember Layton's position on the Throne Speech protest? 

 


Caissa
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The next leadership race always starts the day after the previous one ends.


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