babble is rabble.ca's discussion board but it's much more than that: it's an online community for folks who just won't shut up. It's a place to tell each other — and the world — what's up with our work and campaigns.
Well its official. According to Toronto's Globe calling the "oil sands" the tar sands is deriding it. The blatant over the top propaganda never stops in Canada.
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mulcair-stands-by-oil-sands-c...
Wow its amazing how Mulcair can dominate headlines. I wonder if all this is boosting fundraising?
http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/05/30/house-mates/
Mulcair's new Depty leader is fratnerizing with the enemy! Kidding, but in all seriousness Harper should dump Peter "the useless" Kent for the far smarter and capable Rempel. I do like the idea of a national conservation. Sadly Harper actually prefers failures as enviroment ministers so having any actual talent disqualifies her.
Well its official. According to Toronto's Globe calling the "oil sands" the tar sands is deriding it. The blatant over the top propaganda never stops in Canada.
Today in his press conference at the Alberta leg he accidentally called it the "toil" sands, then he smiled awkwardly, it was hilarious.
Farnwide is usually such a hyper-partisan Liberal...I wonder if he's getting ready to throw in the towel and come over the the "sunny" side of the street?
I'm really pleased with how well the tar sands trip went. It's the sort of thing that could easily have been a disaster.
Yes, I was wondering if it was such a good idea, but Mulcair keeps impressing and pleasantly surprising me. He came off as gracious yet confirmed in his convictions, which makes the hysterical overreaction to him appear even more petty and intemperate.
Allison Redford released a video while she's at the Bilderberg meeting (in Virginia) and it's quite rude to Mulcair. I think it'll crap back on her.
She went to meet with the rulers of the world at an event that is not anything to be concerned about. Only tin hat wearing people could believe that there is anything going on at theses annual meetings so don't look here. Of course since they have been outed in the last few years they now announce the decades old event. Manufacturing consent is also about what gets talked about. imagine a MSM where the talking heads were wondering what the fuck a Premier is doing meeting with the owners of the rights to Alberta's resources as if she was one of them instead of an elected official. That is not the story no its about whether or not Alberta is being targeted for being richer than other provinces.
Here is the list of people meeting at this yearly conference. Like most conferences I am sure there is some subtle "networking" going on in hospitality suites. If these people are not conspiring to rule the world what are they doing?
Quote:
Bilderberg Meetings
Chantilly, Virginia, USA, 31 May-3 June 2012
Final List of Participants
Chairman
FRA
Castries, Henri de
Chairman and CEO, AXA Group
DEU
Ackermann, Josef
Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank AG
GBR
Agius, Marcus
Chairman, Barclays plc
USA
Ajami, Fouad
Senior Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University
USA
Alexander, Keith B.
Commander, US Cyber Command; Director, National Security Agency
INT
Almunia, Joaquín
Vice-President – Commissioner for Competition, European Commission
USA
Altman, Roger C.
Chairman, Evercore Partners
PRT
Amado, Luís
Chairman, Banco Internacional do Funchal (BANIF)
NOR
Andresen, Johan H.
Owner and CEO, FERD
FIN
Apunen, Matti
Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
TUR
Babacan, Ali
Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs
PRT
Balsemão, Francisco Pinto
President and CEO, Impresa; Former Prime Minister
FRA
Baverez, Nicolas
Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
FRA
Béchu, Christophe
Senator, and Chairman, General Council of Maine-et-Loire
BEL
Belgium, H.R.H. Prince Philippe of
TUR
Berberoğlu, Enis
Editor-in-Chief, Hürriyet Newspaper
ITA
Bernabè, Franco
Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia
GBR
Boles, Nick
Member of Parliament
SWE
Bonnier, Jonas
President and CEO, Bonnier AB
NOR
Brandtzæg, Svein Richard
President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
AUT
Bronner, Oscar
Publisher, Der Standard Medienwelt
SWE
Carlsson, Gunilla
Minister for International Development Cooperation
CAN
Carney, Mark J.
Governor, Bank of Canada
ESP
Cebrián, Juan Luis
CEO, PRISA; Chairman, El País
AUT
Cernko, Willibald
CEO, UniCredit Bank Austria AG
FRA
Chalendar, Pierre André de
Chairman and CEO, Saint-Gobain
DNK
Christiansen, Jeppe
CEO, Maj Invest
RUS
Chubais, Anatoly B.
CEO, OJSC RUSNANO
CAN
Clark, W. Edmund
Group President and CEO, TD Bank Group
GBR
Clarke, Kenneth
Member of Parliament, Lord Chancellor and Secretary of Justice
USA
Collins, Timothy C.
CEO and Senior Managing Director, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC
ITA
Conti, Fulvio
CEO and General Manager, Enel S.p.A.
USA
Daniels, Jr., Mitchell E.
Governor of Indiana
USA
DeMuth, Christopher
Distinguished Fellow, Hudson Institute
USA
Donilon, Thomas E.
National Security Advisor, The White House
GBR
Dudley, Robert
Group Chief Executive, BP plc
ITA
Elkann, John
Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
DEU
Enders, Thomas
CEO, Airbus
USA
Evans, J. Michael
Vice Chairman, Global Head of Growth Markets, Goldman Sachs & Co.
AUT
Faymann, Werner
Federal Chancellor
DNK
Federspiel, Ulrik
Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S
USA
Ferguson, Niall
Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History, Harvard University
GBR
Flint, Douglas J.
Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc
CHN
Fu, Ying
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs
IRL
Gallagher, Paul
Former Attorney General; Senior Counsel
USA
Gephardt, Richard A.
President and CEO, Gephardt Group
GRC
Giannitsis, Anastasios
Former Minister of Interior; Professor of Development and International Economics, University of Athens
USA
Goolsbee, Austan D.
Professor of Economics, University of Chicago Booth School of Business
USA
Graham, Donald E.
Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company
ITA
Gruber, Lilli
Journalist – Anchorwoman, La 7 TV
INT
Gucht, Karel de
Commissioner for Trade, European Commission
NLD
Halberstadt, Victor
Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings
USA
Harris, Britt
CIO, Teacher Retirement System of Texas
USA
Hoffman, Reid
Co-founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn
CHN
Huang, Yiping
Professor of Economics, China Center for Economic Research, Peking University
USA
Huntsman, Jr., Jon M.
Chairman, Huntsman Cancer Foundation
DEU
Ischinger, Wolfgang
Chairman, Munich Security Conference; Global Head Government Relations, Allianz SE
RUS
Ivanov, Igor S.
Associate member, Russian Academy of Science; President, Russian International Affairs Council
FRA
Izraelewicz, Erik
CEO, Le Monde
USA
Jacobs, Kenneth M.
Chairman and CEO, Lazard
USA
Johnson, James A.
Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC
USA
Jordan, Jr., Vernon E.
Senior Managing Director, Lazard
USA
Karp, Alexander
CEO, Palantir Technologies
USA
Karsner, Alexander
Executive Chairman, Manifest Energy, Inc
FRA
Karvar, Anousheh
Inspector, Inter-ministerial Audit and Evaluation Office for Social, Health, Employment and Labor Policies
RUS
Kasparov, Garry
Chairman, United Civil Front (of Russia)
GBR
Kerr, John
Independent Member, House of Lords
USA
Kerry, John
Senator for Massachusetts
TUR
Keyman, E. Fuat
Director, Istanbul Policy Center and Professor of International Relations, Sabanci University
USA
Kissinger, Henry A.
Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
USA
Kleinfeld, Klaus
Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
TUR
Koç, Mustafa
Chairman, Koç Holding A.Ş.
DEU
Koch, Roland
CEO, Bilfinger Berger SE
INT
Kodmani, Bassma
Member of the Executive Bureau and Head of Foreign Affairs, Syrian National Council
USA
Kravis, Henry R.
Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
USA
Kravis, Marie-Josée
Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute
INT
Kroes, Neelie
Vice President, European Commission; Commissioner for Digital Agenda
USA
Krupp, Fred
President, Environmental Defense Fund
INT
Lamy, Pascal
Director-General, World Trade Organization
ITA
Letta, Enrico
Deputy Leader, Democratic Party (PD)
ISR
Levite, Ariel E.
Nonresident Senior Associate, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
USA
Li, Cheng
Director of Research and Senior Fellow, John L. Thornton China Center, Brookings Institution
USA
Lipsky, John
Distinguished Visiting Scholar, Johns Hopkins University
USA
Liveris, Andrew N.
President, Chairman and CEO, The Dow Chemical Company
DEU
Löscher, Peter
President and CEO, Siemens AG
USA
Lynn, William J.
Chairman and CEO, DRS Technologies, Inc.
GBR
Mandelson, Peter
Member, House of Lords; Chairman, Global Counsel
USA
Mathews, Jessica T.
President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
DEN
Mchangama, Jacob
Director of Legal Affairs, Center for Political Studies (CEPOS)
CAN
McKenna, Frank
Deputy Chair, TD Bank Group
USA
Mehlman, Kenneth B.
Partner, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
GBR
Micklethwait, John
Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
FRA
Montbrial, Thierry de
President, French Institute for International Relations
PRT
Moreira da Silva, Jorge
First Vice-President, Partido Social Democrata (PSD)
USA
Mundie, Craig J.
Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation
DEU
Nass, Matthias
Chief International Correspondent, Die Zeit
NLD
Netherlands, H.M. the Queen of the
ESP
Nin Génova, Juan María
Deputy Chairman and CEO, Caixabank
IRL
Noonan, Michael
Minister for Finance
USA
Noonan, Peggy
Author, Columnist, The Wall Street Journal
FIN
Ollila, Jorma
Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc
USA
Orszag, Peter R.
Vice Chairman, Citigroup
GRC
Papalexopoulos, Dimitri
Managing Director, Titan Cement Co.
NLD
Pechtold, Alexander
Parliamentary Leader, Democrats ’66 (D66)
USA
Perle, Richard N.
Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
NLD
Polman, Paul
CEO, Unilever PLC
CAN
Prichard, J. Robert S.
Chair, Torys LLP
ISR
Rabinovich, Itamar
Global Distinguished Professor, New York University
GBR
Rachman, Gideon
Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator, The Financial Times
USA
Rattner, Steven
Chairman, Willett Advisors LLC
CAN
Redford, Alison M.
Premier of Alberta
CAN
Reisman, Heather M.
CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
DEU
Reitzle, Wolfgang
CEO & President, Linde AG
USA
Rogoff, Kenneth S.
Professor of Economics, Harvard University
USA
Rose, Charlie
Executive Editor and Anchor, Charlie Rose
USA
Ross, Dennis B.
Counselor, Washington Institute for Near East Policy
POL
Rostowski, Jacek
Minister of Finance
USA
Rubin, Robert E.
Co-Chair, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
NLD
Rutte, Mark
Prime Minister
ESP
Sáenz de Santamaría Antón, Soraya
Vice President and Minister for the Presidency
NLD
Scheffer, Paul
Professor of European Studies, Tilburg University
USA
Schmidt, Eric E.
Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
AUT
Scholten, Rudolf
Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
FRA
Senard, Jean-Dominique
CEO, Michelin Group
USA
Shambaugh, David
Director, China Policy Program, George Washington University
INT
Sheeran, Josette
Vice Chairman, World Economic Forum
FIN
Siilasmaa, Risto
Chairman of the Board of Directors, Nokia Corporation
USA
Speyer, Jerry I.
Chairman and Co-CEO, Tishman Speyer
CHE
Supino, Pietro
Chairman and Publisher, Tamedia AG
IRL
Sutherland, Peter D.
Chairman, Goldman Sachs International
USA
Thiel, Peter A.
President, Clarium Capital / Thiel Capital
TUR
Timuray, Serpil
CEO, Vodafone Turkey
DEU
Trittin, Jürgen
Parliamentary Leader, Alliance 90/The Greens
GRC
Tsoukalis, Loukas
President, Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy
FIN
Urpilainen, Jutta
Minister of Finance
CHE
Vasella, Daniel L.
Chairman, Novartis AG
INT
Vimont, Pierre
Executive Secretary General, European External Action Service
GBR
Voser, Peter
CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
SWE
Wallenberg, Jacob
Chairman, Investor AB
USA
Warsh, Kevin
Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University
GBR
Wolf, Martin H.
Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times
USA
Wolfensohn, James D.
Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company
CAN
Wright, Nigel S.
Chief of Staff, Office of the Prime Minister
USA
Yergin, Daniel
Chairman, IHS Cambridge Energy Research Associates
INT
Zoellick, Robert B.
President, The World Bank Group
Rapporteurs
GBR
Bredow, Vendeline von
Business Correspondent, The Economist
GBR
Wooldridge, Adrian D.
Foreign Correspondent, The Economist
Danielle Smith of Wild Rose was really offensive in her reaction to Mulcair last night on P&P. She even criticized Evan Solomon for talking about the 170 square kilometers of tailings ponds in Alberta, saying that number was inflated - and Solomon responded by saying that number comes from the Alberta government's own website!
Smith went on to say Alberta doesn't criticize the eastern provinces for damming and flooding for Hydro projects, so the eastern provinces should butt out of Alberta's energy projects.
If she didn't want to ship it across my province in pipelines I might at least say she has a provincial rights argument. The tar sands require a means of getting their filthy product to market. Neither BC Hydro nor Quebec Hydro is trying to run power lines through the sovereign state oops I meant province of Alberta.
She provides a good talking point for the MSM to make sure Redmond's trip to get her "suggested" policy from the rulers of the world doesn't get reported except in passing, to prove we have a free press.
In some ways, I regret that Wildrose didn't win the Alberta election and Danielle Smith didn't become premier. She would have made a fantastic foil for Mulcair to contrast himself with and she would have fit every conceivable negative stereotype of being a far-right kook who was Canada's answer to Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann. Of course that's easy for me to say since i don't live in Alberta!
I get your point, but we don't need any further moves to the right, or any more polarization. And providing an easier target for Mulcair (not that he needs one) would be far outweighed by the damage to her province, to those of us next to it, and to the whole of the country.
Besides, it was a great pleasure to see all those federal Harperites with their chins on the floor for once.
Allison Redford released a video while she's at the Bilderberg meeting (in Virginia) and it's quite rude to Mulcair. I think it'll crap back on her.
She went to meet with the rulers of the world at an event that is not anything to be concerned about. Only tin hat wearing people could believe that there is anything going on at theses annual meetings so don't look here. Of course since they have been outed in the last few years they now announce the decades old event. Manufacturing consent is also about what gets talked about. imagine a MSM where the talking heads were wondering what the fuck a Premier is doing meeting with the owners of the rights to Alberta's resources as if she was one of them instead of an elected official. That is not the story no its about whether or not Alberta is being targeted for being richer than other provinces.
Here is the list of people meeting at this yearly conference. Like most conferences I am sure there is some subtle "networking" going on in hospitality suites. If these people are not conspiring to rule the world what are they doing?
Interesting article addressing the paucity of real content in the media. what the article seemed afraid to admit is that not only was there little analysis and discussion of the issues -- what was there was so completely partisan that it was worse than the endless poll coverage and superficial crap. Most of what passed as substantive content was in fact packaged propaganda. If you add that idea to the article then it would be complete. The author almost went there in discussing the At Issue Panel but seemed to pull the punch at the last moment and not concede the damage of such biased reporting instead focusing on the vacuous nature of the rest of the reporting. It really was a one-two punch with both aspects being quite equal.
I hope you are being facetious by citing infowars :/
No it is just a list and they had it formatted properly. If you prefer to have it straight from the vultures themselves here is a link for you. The whack jobs on the right at least have their computer skills down. The couple of leftie sites I tried first didn't have good formatting so one could not easily cut and paste.
Your laissez-faire attitude to the Bilderberg is concerning. What is the point of electing a government if they just go to Bilderberg conferences and get their marching orders?
So apparently now, if you lose your job, the Conservatives will just tell you to go suck a tail pond.
Ha!
Redford knocked for missing Mulcair visit
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/30/redford-knocked-for-missing-mulcair...
AND MR. MINISTER, WOULD YOU DRINK FROM THEM? (from the 'missed national headline' file)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/30/pol-mulcair-oilsands-al...
Well its official. According to Toronto's Globe calling the "oil sands" the tar sands is deriding it. The blatant over the top propaganda never stops in Canada.
Today in his press conference at the Alberta leg he accidentally called it the "toil" sands, then he smiled awkwardly, it was hilarious.
It will be Alberta's newest provincial park in 20 years. I can see the headlines now..
"Come splash in the pristine ponds and take ride through the bituman hills!"
Ah..."Those Old Bitumen Hills Of Home"...
Allison Redford released a video while she's at the Bilderberg meeting (in Virginia) and it's quite rude to Mulcair. I think it'll crap back on her.
Imagine having to share the wealth and protect the environment - what a bunch of whiners.
Thomas Mulcair targets Alberta for his own political gain. And it's working
http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/Braid+Thomas+Mulcair+targets+Alberta+political+gain+working/6712678/story.html#ixzz1wYMpH1Z3
Farnwide is usually such a hyper-partisan Liberal...I wonder if he's getting ready to throw in the towel and come over the the "sunny" side of the street?
I'm really pleased with how well the tar sands trip went. It's the sort of thing that could easily have been a disaster.
Yes, I was wondering if it was such a good idea, but Mulcair keeps impressing and pleasantly surprising me. He came off as gracious yet confirmed in his convictions, which makes the hysterical overreaction to him appear even more petty and intemperate.
She went to meet with the rulers of the world at an event that is not anything to be concerned about. Only tin hat wearing people could believe that there is anything going on at theses annual meetings so don't look here. Of course since they have been outed in the last few years they now announce the decades old event. Manufacturing consent is also about what gets talked about. imagine a MSM where the talking heads were wondering what the fuck a Premier is doing meeting with the owners of the rights to Alberta's resources as if she was one of them instead of an elected official. That is not the story no its about whether or not Alberta is being targeted for being richer than other provinces.
Here is the list of people meeting at this yearly conference. Like most conferences I am sure there is some subtle "networking" going on in hospitality suites. If these people are not conspiring to rule the world what are they doing?
http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-2012-the-official-list-of-participants/
Danielle Smith of Wild Rose was really offensive in her reaction to Mulcair last night on P&P. She even criticized Evan Solomon for talking about the 170 square kilometers of tailings ponds in Alberta, saying that number was inflated - and Solomon responded by saying that number comes from the Alberta government's own website!
Smith went on to say Alberta doesn't criticize the eastern provinces for damming and flooding for Hydro projects, so the eastern provinces should butt out of Alberta's energy projects.
If she didn't want to ship it across my province in pipelines I might at least say she has a provincial rights argument. The tar sands require a means of getting their filthy product to market. Neither BC Hydro nor Quebec Hydro is trying to run power lines through the sovereign state oops I meant province of Alberta.
She provides a good talking point for the MSM to make sure Redmond's trip to get her "suggested" policy from the rulers of the world doesn't get reported except in passing, to prove we have a free press.
In some ways, I regret that Wildrose didn't win the Alberta election and Danielle Smith didn't become premier. She would have made a fantastic foil for Mulcair to contrast himself with and she would have fit every conceivable negative stereotype of being a far-right kook who was Canada's answer to Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann. Of course that's easy for me to say since i don't live in Alberta!
Well, it seems to me Redford is doing a pretty good job at playing the "kook". We don't need Wildrose, we have another loney tune instead.
Yeah, Danielle Smith is really extreme. I saw that last night on P&P. But Evan Solomon shot her down quite effectively.
No.... I would not have been glad if she had won.
I get your point, but we don't need any further moves to the right, or any more polarization. And providing an easier target for Mulcair (not that he needs one) would be far outweighed by the damage to her province, to those of us next to it, and to the whole of the country.
Besides, it was a great pleasure to see all those federal Harperites with their chins on the floor for once.
What the headline should say here is that the mainstream press failed. So is there anything new here?
National media coverage of the 2011 federal election was a failure
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1203278--nationa...
We can count on a few things in life - death, taxes, and that Mulcair will be attacked in the msp as long as he is in politics.
Media attacks on Thomas Mulcair escalate as NDP charges aheadhttp://www.straight.com/article-695701/vancouver/media-attacks-thomas-mu...
Interesting article addressing the paucity of real content in the media. what the article seemed afraid to admit is that not only was there little analysis and discussion of the issues -- what was there was so completely partisan that it was worse than the endless poll coverage and superficial crap. Most of what passed as substantive content was in fact packaged propaganda. If you add that idea to the article then it would be complete. The author almost went there in discussing the At Issue Panel but seemed to pull the punch at the last moment and not concede the damage of such biased reporting instead focusing on the vacuous nature of the rest of the reporting. It really was a one-two punch with both aspects being quite equal.
No it is just a list and they had it formatted properly. If you prefer to have it straight from the vultures themselves here is a link for you. The whack jobs on the right at least have their computer skills down. The couple of leftie sites I tried first didn't have good formatting so one could not easily cut and paste.
http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants2012.html
Your laissez-faire attitude to the Bilderberg is concerning. What is the point of electing a government if they just go to Bilderberg conferences and get their marching orders?
Say goodbye to the nation-state
Here we go again.
Federal NDP Leader Tom Mulcair rejects complaints that his caucus is anti-Israel
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-and-life/life/faith/federal-ndp-le...