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Pat Martin & NDP apologize to RackNine and Matt Meier

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Stockholm wrote:

FYI, people routinely name totally outlandish amounts of money that they are  "suing" for and even if they win the case, they never get awarded anywhere near the fantasy number they named. I have seen case where so and so says they are suing someone for millions of dollars for libel and then even if they win the award ends up being court osts plus a token $10,000.

Ah, so the NDP is flaunting its apology on page 1 for two months now because... it feels really really sorry about what asshole Pat Martin did? You should let the party know it has nothing to fear.

If photos surfaced of Pat Martin smoking weed, they would bounce him in two seconds flat. If he told an interviewer that maybe expelling 750,000 Palestinians in 1948 was not a wise move, Mulcair would fly to Tel Aviv to beg forgiveness.

But when he champions Israel, champions the "mission" in Afghanistan, bashes Québec (cf his "loyalty oath to Canada" for MPs which he has been pushing for close to a decade), and accuses RackNine of criminal activity without bothering to get, you know, some evidence... Well, that's all cool, the party can just give him space on its front page and take the blame for his crimes.

 


KenS
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The party wouldnt want to deprive you of all the entertainment this obviously provides you.


Fidel
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I, too, think the NDP should apologize to the 39% Harper Government and their friends for accusing them of election rigging as many times as possible leading up to 2015. And they should do it often.


knownothing
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I donated 20 bucks to Martin yesterday. That's a lot for a teacher intern. Anyway, I felt bad because at the last convention I told him to keep up the fiery rhetoric.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/ndp-mp-seek...

 


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knownothing wrote:

I donated 20 bucks to Martin yesterday. That's a lot for a teacher intern. Anyway, I felt bad because at the last convention I told him to keep up the fiery rhetoric.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/ndp-mp-seek...

 

Did you get a tax deduction receipt for that? I just want to know if my taxes are partially financing this reactionary loudmouth jerk, who earns about 7 times the minimum wage not counting his expenses. Surely he can live a little more modestly for a while and pay his Toronto lawyers himself.

 


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I love Kady O'Malley. She asked the Ethics Commissioner whether it was legal for Pat Martin to beg for money for his own personal use related to his office as MP. Turns out it is - for the time being - with some restrictions:

Transparency Watch: Names of $500+ Pat Martin Defence Fund donors to be disclosed on ethics commissioner's website

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford risks losing his position for using the Mayor's letterhead to raise money for a charity. It would have been nice to see both their asses tossed simultaneously, even though Ford's offence seems minor by comparison.

 


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Unionist wrote:

knownothing wrote:

I donated 20 bucks to Martin yesterday. That's a lot for a teacher intern. Anyway, I felt bad because at the last convention I told him to keep up the fiery rhetoric.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/ndp-mp-seek...

 

 

Did you get a tax deduction receipt for that? I just want to know if my taxes are partially financing this reactionary loudmouth jerk, who earns about 7 times the minimum wage not counting his expenses. Surely he can live a little more modestly for a while and pay his Toronto lawyers himself.

 

 

I got a receipt, don't know if it is tax deductible. If you ever get sued for being a loudmouthed reactionary I will send you 20 bucks too.


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It turns out that your donation to the loudmouth is not tax deductible. But keep it to $20. If the Ethics Commissioner has her way, all gifts of $30 or more would be made public (see Kady O'Malley's story above).

 


Catchfire
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Can I just get 20 bucks to protect me from future potential lawsuits? I promise to invest the golden talent wisely in the meantime.


Transrave
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Sean in Ottawa wrote:

I think people should be a little careful about what they say about a private company that is friendly to our enemies and is already known to be litigious. I don't think Rabble has a legal fund.

Just use judgment not to make any claims or suggestions that cannot be proven in court.

 

Exactly what the problem is with our present government (and their greedy supporters).  We can't speak our minds anymore.  Whenever anyone tries to tell the truth, they receive a big SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation).  That ain't right.


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Unionist wrote:

knownothing wrote:

I donated 20 bucks to Martin yesterday. That's a lot for a teacher intern. Anyway, I felt bad because at the last convention I told him to keep up the fiery rhetoric.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/ndp-mp-seek...

 

Did you get a tax deduction receipt for that? I just want to know if my taxes are partially financing this reactionary loudmouth jerk, who earns about 7 times the minimum wage not counting his expenses. Surely he can live a little more modestly for a while and pay his Toronto lawyers himself.

 

I could live with Mr. Martin making a six-figure income, but Stephen Harper?  No thanks.


Transrave
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Fidel wrote:

I'm guessing there is no Boss Hogg or Daisy Duke in Wild Rose County, either? 

 

Harper would make a good Boss Hogg (LOL).  He even looks like a pig.


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Transrave wrote:

I could live with Mr. Martin making a six-figure income, but Stephen Harper?  No thanks.

"Mr." Martin should (but will never) have the decency to resign. He has done nothing to earn his keep since the last time he shot off his fat mouth against a company which he himself declares to be innocent. This is what his official web site has looked like for the last FIVE MONTHS:

http://patmartin.ndp.ca/

Disgusting.

 


Transrave
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Fidel wrote:

I think the NDP should have the apology printed in ads across the country, over and over until 2015. Something like: We apologize for accusing the Harpers and Rack9 of election rigging and generally corrupting the course of democracy in Canada.

 

And how do we know the tories DIDN'T rig last year's election?  Our present government has gotta be the most hated Canada has ever had to deal with yet, somehow, they keep on winning.  Then again, lack of voter turnout may be an issue as well.  Too many poor people don't vote, and those are the people most affected when a dictator (like Harper) is in power.  Get out and vote, people!

Although if people really ARE being delibrately led to the wrong poles, shame on those responsible.  Again, not hard to determine who would be responsible, given who keeps winning these elections in spite of how hated they are.  If you ask me, the conservatives only made Martin apologize because they wanted to save face... although he could have waited until he had evidence of his claims before making them public.  Without evidence, there's the strong risk of being hit back with a SLAPP.


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Unionist wrote:

Transrave wrote:

I could live with Mr. Martin making a six-figure income, but Stephen Harper?  No thanks.

"Mr." Martin should (but will never) have the decency to resign. He has done nothing to earn his keep since the last time he shot off his fat mouth against a company which he himself declares to be innocent. This is what his official web site has looked like for the last FIVE MONTHS:

http://patmartin.ndp.ca/

Disgusting.

 

You're right, that is embarassing to the NDP.


Transrave
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On the other hand, if RackNine didn't rig the election, somebody did.  I can't possibly see the Harper stooges winning legit...


Transrave
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Then again, why should the entire NDP be held acountable for one bad apple?


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Transrave wrote:

Then again, why should the entire NDP be held acountable for one bad apple?

They should have thrown him out of caucus long ago - but certainly for this stupidity of accusing a company of criminal acts without the slightest evidence. But even though the federal party also apologized, and kept the apology on the front page of the web site for months, I never heard one word of criticism from the leader. When someone goes rogue (as Pat Martin has done so often), there's no honour in closing ranks and defending him. He should have been gone long ago.

 


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Just saw this on my Facebook page.... it's a parody, unfortunately. Frown


addictedtomyipod
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Wow.  Lots of Pat Martin bashing going on here.  

I like him and he says what I think many Canadians are thinking too.  Racknine is so suspiciously guilty of being a Harper stooge company, but we will all just sit idly by and see nothing change on this assault on our democracy.  I was madder than hell over this robo-call crap and not enough is being done to stop it.  

So don't worry Martin haters, we can all talk about robo-calls again after the next Con majority, blame Pat Martin and bitch at our keyboards.  And no, donations to the legal fund are not tax-deductible.


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Um, in his public apology Pat Martin stated that Racknine was totally innocent. So please don't call Mr. Martin a liar. He has enough problems, what with being sued, and being a Québec-hater, and a lover of Israeli Zionism, and a booster of our heroic Afghan mission. I think an apology to him would be in order.

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