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It woul be pretty weird for McKenna to run now and I doubt he would. Why would he pass up running for Liberal leader in 2006 when it would have been a coronation and he would have beeen leading a party with over 100 seats that seemed about to regain power, to instead run in 2013 at the age of 67 to lead an impotent third party?
Please PLEASE PLEASE run for the leadership on this, Frank!
Actually, that plank - running a pipeline from East to West was what Mulcair was talking about in conjunction with the oil sands. Why build and ship oil outside of the country for refining but do it "in house".
I think it's a good idea.
It's interesting that these two (Mulcair and McKenna) have very similar views.
50 years ago John Turner became an MP for the first time. Tonight on P&P he's still sour on Pierre Trudeau - didn't have any nice words to say about Justin at all. Did he ever look grumpy.
ETA: He did call Justin "a viable candidate" for the leadership, though.
ETA: He's clearly aging, but has an excellent memory - was able to reference Diefenbaker, Pearson and Trudeau, and give history on omnibus bills in the past. He was highly critical of Harper, but called Flaherty a generous word that I can't recall - he's impressed with Flaherty, obviously. Probably comparing himself with his own tenure as Finance Minister with Flaherty.
Nenshi?
http://spacingtoronto.ca/2012/06/18/lorinc-the-case-for-nenshi-as-federa...
Does this mean that Mulcair is in favour of pipelines, generally, and tar sands oil in particular? We'll leave the vast quantities of fresh water required to transform this sludge into fuel, and the consequent pollution ancillary to that process, for another discussion.
Well Autoworker, I don't know much about the process but I do know that we already have a built pipeline that goes from west to east, and thus if it's going to be refined it should be done here rather than shipped elswhere, refined and sold back to us. In terms of pollution, this is where the actual stranded costs need to be tagged on for the real cost of refining.
I think he would be a fine choice, the trouble being that he's too early into his political career for it, not having been re-elected yet. Does he speak French? That would be another large barrier if he doesn't.
Realistically, nobody's shutting down the oil sands tomorrow. It's going to be a big enough fight to contain their growth and stop Northern Gateway.
He mentioned this last week when he was criticizing oil companies for not being transparent on the issue of fracking. Link 1 2
is nenshi even a liberal? not at all to suggest that the titanic majority of liberals wouldn't vote for a portly, queer (?), muslim, calgary mayor as the leader they desperately need to save the party from social credit status, but something tells me that there's a reason that the margaret wentes of the world (well, this tiny, increasingly insignificant world) are practicing cunningulus on the idiot trudeau. like if the trudeau fool is the result of checking boxes, something tells me that nenshi is better not to jump in. then again, since trudeau is nearly certain to be nuked into oblivion if he does go ahead and assume the purple, maybe that's the best recommendation.
and i'm wondering that if nenshi did want to get into politics that he wouldn't be a straight-up dipper.
To date, the opposition parties have failed to convince most voters that Harper’s fiscal management is deeply risky because he’s putting all our eggs in the resources basket without any kind of hedging strategy. What’s more, it seems absurd that a modern, wealthy country should become so blinded by the allure of commodities and China’s industrial customers that the federal government is willing to dismantle generations of accepted environmental protections to ensure that we can remain price competitive with all those developing world nations and semi-failed states that have little else to trade but rocks, fibre and oil.
If anyone can challenge Harper by asserting the importance of developing a forward-looking, diversified urban economy based on innovation, it is Naheed Nenshi. He gets cities, and how they generate wealth. That’s the choice he offers.
The author appears to be blinded by the "Liberal light", where "oppostion parties" is code for liberal opposition party. I believe Mulcair and of course the MSM were quite clear where the official opposition was on putting our of all collective eggs into one basket. And Mulcair NDP was front and centre in bringing attention to the dismantling of environmental protections.
Thus, the author's original premise here needs to be revealed as not true but very narrow in order to support his narrative.
Nenshi has considerable political capital - but if he moves out of municipal politics, he will only get to spend it exactly *once*. The moment he attaches himself to a federal or provincial party, he will never be able to get quite the same coalition of voters to re-elect him on a municipal level - because right now they don't think of him as a Liberal, Tory, Dipper, etc, he's just Nenshi.
Closing.