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Syria #7: Russia readies marines for Syria mission

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kropotkin1951
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Once again Canada's state media passes off NATO propaganda as news.  There is no nuance or balance to this piece it is straight out NATO spin regurgitated whole. 

This piece on the techniques that Hearst and Pulitzer introduced into the American culture is well done.  Analyzing the headlines and imagery in the CBC story through that lens shows how far into yellow journalism and war mongering the CBC has fallen.

CBC wrote:

Turkey vows military response to Syrian border violations Syrian helicopters have strayed into Turkish airspace 5 times recently, PM says

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan says the Turkish Armed Forces "will respond to all violations on the Syrian border" following the downing of one of its jets by Syria. (Umit Bektas/Reuters)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0XfxtMBF8A


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Furious Turkey Mobilizes Tanks, Troops to Syrian Border

http://www.timesofisrael.com/turkey-mobilizes-troops-to-syrian-border/

"...Erdogan closed his remarks with an especially harsh condemnation of Syrian President Bashar Assad. 'Turkey and the Turkish people will continue to provide all support until the people of Syria have been saved from this tyrannical, murderous, bloody dictator and his gang.' Erdogan said Syria shot down the unarmed plane in international airspace in a 'deliberate and hostile' act and without warning..

Footage Proves Turkish Jet Violated Syria Airspace (and vid)

http://youtu.be/0o20bM4mh_c

"Syrian Girl Partisan speaks to Dr Ali Mohamad, Editor in Chief of www.syria-tribune.com/en/ that can verify the authenticity of a video showing the moment the Turkish F-4 was shot down.."

 


Bec.De.Corbin
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NDPP wrote:

Footage Proves Turkish Jet Violated Syria Airspace (and vid)

http://youtu.be/0o20bM4mh_c

"Syrian Girl Partisan speaks to Dr Ali Mohamad, Editor in Chief of www.syria-tribune.com/en/ that can verify the authenticity of a video showing the moment the Turkish F-4 was shot down.."

Yeap, compare the pattern of the shots on that cell phone recording with this footage of ZSU 23-4 firing at a range. They are the same... the shots in the cell phone video crack instead of pop becouse they were in front of the guns on the hill. Shots sound different depending on where you are standing from the weapon.

 


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Life's a beach...thanks Bec you're now the official technical advisor on this thread!


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Nothing Safe, Nothing Sacred: Syrian Rebels Desecrate Christian Churches

http://www.rt.com/news/syrian-rebels-desecrate-christian-churches-897/

"Shocking images have surfaced, revealing the alleged desecration of Christian churches in Syria by Western-backed rebels. Thousands of Christians have fled certain areas of Homs that fell into rebel hands in February. Meanwhile, US intelligence operatives and diplomats continue to step-up their contacts with Syrian rebels to help organize their growing military operations..."


ikosmos
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In CrossTalk on RT the view was expressed that the shooting down of the Turkish fighter over Syrian airspace was as much political as military. The idea being that the Syrian regime is aware that Turkey is allowing its territory to be used as a staging area for supplying weapons, logistics, etc., for the other side in the civil war .


Fidel
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Civil war? Are they only Syrians carrying weapons in Syria today?

Google definition for Civil war: A war between citizens of the same country.

And yet Ayman al-Zawahiri, the newest leader of the fake terrorist group, al-Qa'eda, has called on Muslims around the world to go fight Assad's government troops in Syria.

This is a proxy war, like the CIA's proxy war against the Sovs and Soviet-backed PDPA government in 1980s Afghanistan.

We even have fat-cat Canadian senators referring to it as the new cold war.


kropotkin1951
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Sorry Fidel but it is still called the Spanish Civil War despite the support given to the fascist side by Italy and Germany and the brave International Brigades that fought shoulder to shoulder with the people.

i do not doubt that there are foreign fighters in Syria but I also don't doubt that there are many Syrians fighting the brutal regime.  That to me is the very reason that our government should stay out of it.  The Syrian people need peace to have any chance of a transition to a more democratic society.  So far peace has proven illusive in all the countries NATO has intervened in so far in the new millennium and the people of those countries are suffering the consequences of NATO having armed everybody and their brother with an automatic rifle.  There is no normal civil society left in Iraq or Libya and Syria is sinking into the same bottomless pit of violence.  However just because NATO is stirring the pot does not mean the ingredients are all from abroad. Lets not forget that we used to send our citizens to Syria to be tortured.  i am sure a regime like that has lots of internal enemies as well as NATO supported interlopers.


Fidel
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It's funny that al-Zawahiri doesn't seem to be interested in striking a single blow of revenge against U.S.-backed torturers in Egypt, his birth country.  It's as if the invisible army of darkness and uncle whiskers share all the same enemies. 

The Atlantic Alliance and their Arab imperialist allies are working to essentially undo what Stalinists achieved in the stani nations and Soviet-backed frontline mid east countries, which was to maintain division between mullahs and state power. Imagine that Russia and China had supplied guerilla training and weapons to confederates in the American civil war. Instead of Obama they might have had the klan and scalawags running "the free world" today.


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late breaking reports are of Turkish troop movements towards the Syrian border and  also that Saudi Arabia's King has  put his military on 'high alert'...


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Turkey deployed anti-aircraft guns and other weapons alongside its border with Syria, state television reported on Thursday, days after the downing of a Turkish military jet by Syrian forces heightened the tensions between the two countries.

A small convoy of military trucks, towing anti-aircraft guns, entered into a military outpost in the border village of Guvecci, which faces a Syrian military outpost across the border and where Syrian forces and rebels clashed in recent months, TRT television footage showed.

Several anti-aircraft guns have also been deployed elsewhere alongside the border. Some trucks were seen carrying self-propelled multiple rocket launchers, TRT footage showed.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/06/28/turkey-syria-border-weapon...


Fidel
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It looks like the Gladio Gang are trying to use their own act of war to justify escalating an attack on Syria. Threatening other countries with military attack is illegal since Nuremberg.


Bec.De.Corbin
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Fidel wrote:

Imagine that Russia and China had supplied guerilla training and weapons to confederates in the American civil war.

The Confederates still would have lost. England, by the way, tried to support the Confederacy because of their dependency on cheap cotton but they backed down when Lincoln told them he'd deal with them AFTER he dealt with the civil war.


Fidel
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Bec.De.Corbin wrote:

Fidel wrote:

Imagine that Russia and China had supplied guerilla training and weapons to confederates in the American civil war.

The Confederates still would have lost. England, by the way, tried to support the Confederacy because of their dependency on cheap cotton but they backed down when Lincoln told them he'd deal with them AFTER he dealt with the civil war.

 

With the so called civil war in 1980's-90's Afghanistan, the CIA and Brits funded and armed mercenaries from over 40 countries to fight against secularist PDPA government forces.

Surely the confederates were outnumbered by northern Union soldiers. Surely the tables could have been turned on the North had the right incentives been offered to Mexicans and other nationals. 

Imagine the Klan and dozens of right wing militia groups running things today as a result. The FBI doesn't like to mention the numerous right wing groups there in the US and readyibng themselves for when the government goes bad. It wouldn't take much to destabilize America today imo.


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Turkey Vows Retaliation, Russia Calls for Restraint (and vid)

http://youtu.be/a7FFqrBE54I

Discussion with experts

 


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Wow. What is this, a backdoor opportunity for NATO to start dropping bombs on Syria? I understand Turkey has a right to be pissed IF its` plane was in international waters, but massing troops on the border seems like an overreaction? So what now, a security council resolution to ''help'' our Turkish allies?


Bec.De.Corbin
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I wouldn't put too much into the build up and I think it's more for the Turkish public than anything. There has been some cross fire incidents along their border with each other where Syrian units have fired over into Turkey, probably at fleeing rebels. In the past these incidents were pretty much played down by both sides. I'm assuming Turkey is not going to be so tolerant in the future when such incidents occur. I'm also thinking the Syrians are going to be a little more careful about doing such things seeing how the Turks are now pissed off (at them).


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Only National Model Settles Syria Crisis: President Assad

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/29/248536/only-national-model-settl...

"...What took place in Libya is not the model to settle Syria.."


Fidel
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American C.I.A. arming Al-Qa'eda terrorists in Syria Lapdog News Media

The glasnost is half full.


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Propagandists Sell 'Vigilante' Solution for Syria  -  by Tony Cartalucci

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2012/06/propagandists-sell-vigilante-so...

"Bypassing the UN to 'end violence' of its own creation. West plumbs new depths of its own depravity.."

 

Time for Regime Change in USA  -  by Rodney Shakespeare

http://presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/29/248601/time-for-regime-change--the-usa/

"With breathtaking arrogance, the USA is opposing the presence of Iran at the discussions about Syria in Geneva.."

 


Bec.De.Corbin
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Quote:
Time for Regime Change in USA

 

Ok "PressTV" thanks for your opinion...LOL


Fidel
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yeah, laugh aloud. What an interesting and diverse range of opinions.  It's all good. Frown 

You know, I don't even think Al-CIA'da is a progressive organization. As far as I can tell they don't promote women's rights. Not at all.

Women Fight For Right To Join Al Qaeda 2009

And that was 2009. Nothing since so far. CIA'da is not a very transparent group by what I can tell. Do the women of CIA'da have upward mobility or opportunities for advancement? Are the C.I.A.'s female expendable jihadi assets even included in the pension plan? Something tells me that it simply isn't true. I think Syrian women will not do so well under a NATO-backed right wing theocracy. 


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Annan: Russia, West Agree on Transition Government for Syria (and vid)

http://www.rt.com/news/syria-summit-geneva-annan-115/

"The Syrian crisis is to be resolved by a transition government consisting of the current authorities and opposition leaders. The proposal was announced by UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan after talks in Geneva.." See interview

 

Syria Through the Looking Glass  -  by Ron Jacobs

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/06/29/syria-through-the-looking-glass/

"...Those actively interested in a more democratic Syria have faded into the background as armed factions have come to the front. Yes, it is those very same democracy protesters that provide a cover for NATO governments to increase their involvement. Simply put, we see western imperial powers and Turkey (and Israel) attempting to remove an Arab government unwilling to go along with their designs..."


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Israel's Stolen Palestinian Oil and Gas Reserves and Plans to Steal Syria's as well - Why We Fight: Canada as Accomplice

 

Struggle Over the Middle East: Gas Ranks First  - by Imad Fawzi Shueibi

http://www.voltairenet.org/Struggle-over-the-Middle-East-Gas

"...The media and military attack against Syria is directly related to the global competition for energy. It becomes clear that the key to economic success and political domination lies mainly in the control of the energy source of the century: gas. It is because she is at the heart of the most colossal gas reserves in the world that Syria is being targeted.

What we know about this issue is that the Mediterranean basin is the wealthiest in gas and that Syria would be the wealthiest state, according to the Washington Institute. Who controls Syria could control the Middle East, grip on the gateway to Asia, possess the key to Russia's House, as Catherine 2nd put it and could set foot on the Silk Road, according to China.

Most importantly they who could penetrate Syria for gas have the ability to dominate the world...Syria, undoubtedly would be the key to the coming epoch."

Canada Moves To Strengthen Energy Ties with Israel

http://www.cija.ca/jerusalem/canada-moves-to-strengthen-energy-ties-with...

"Canada is looking to strengthen energy ties with Israel in a move that could help the Jewish state alter the balance of oil power in the Middle East. Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver left for the country on Friday. His trip will be focused on pitching Canada to his counterparts in government, oil company executives and leading academics as an ideal partner to help Israel develop its newly discovered bounty of unconventional oil and gas...

The discovery last year of a field 30 kilometres southwest of Jerusalem estimated by the London-based World Energy Council to contain up to 250 billion barrels of shale oil, together with 16 trillion cubic feet of natural gas found offshore [Gaza!] have suddenly put Israel's name on the energy map. The oil find rivals global oil superpower Saudi Arabia's 260 billion barrels in proven conventional reserves and was publicly dubbed 'the equivalent of Saudi extra-light' by Harold Vinegar, former chief scientist for Royal Dutch Shell.

Bob Schulz, professor of petroleum land management at the University of Calgary's Haskayne School of Business, said the possibility of Canadian technology and investment going to Israel 'would certainly change the political dynamics of the Middle East, in that energy revenue would give it the means to finance much of its own defence instead of continuing to rely on Western support."

As in Libya and the controlled detonation of that country - Canada's involvement in Syria is consistent with our usual role as satan's little helper. As always few get it and even fewer care.

 

 

 


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Turkey - Triple Split Over Syria  - by Christof Lehman

http://nsnbc.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/turkey-triple-split-over-syria/

"...The Erdogan led government continues its war of words and its covert military transgressions against Syria..."

 

Kurdish Fractions Fight NATO-led Free Syria Army  -  By Christof Lehman

http://nsnbc.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/kurdish-fractions-fights-nato-led-...

"Leaders of the PKK affliated Syrian Democratic Union Party, which has a strong political influence in predominantly ethnically Kurdish regions of Syria are determined to stop the bloodshed and massacres of the Free Syrian Army from spreading to ethnically Kurdish areas where the party yields a significantly strong influence to resist the FSA.

The Syrian constitution provides exemplary protection of Syria's many ethnic groups and minorities. It is unlikely that a NATO/GCC Israeli backed government of Syria, and especially a potential government with strong ties to Turkey would provide the same guaranties of democratic rights and protection of ethnic minorities..."


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NATO, US, Israel Know They Have Met Their Match with Syria (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/01/248847/removing-assad-will-add-t...

"Press TV interviewed James Fetzer, professor and philosopher, Madison, about the strength of the Syrian position on its own and in partnership with Russia, China and Iran.."

 

US has Sinister Plan for World: Analyst (and vid)

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07/02/24892/us-has-sinister-plan-for-w...

Interview with Dr Webster Griffin Tarpley...


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Washington's Road to Iran Goes Through Syria: 'The results of the Geneva Talks Depend on Who You Ask'

http://rt.com/politics/annan-syria-geneva-libya-178/

"...let's stop for a second to grasp the sheer fact five foreign powers gathered to decide the fate of a country, in the absence of its leader and its people, who never asked them to do anything of the kind, let alone gave any mandate. This is an outrageous breach of international law. And what is even more outrageous is that nobody is concerned or even talking about it..."


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Her Majesty's BBC's Syria Coverage: "Sorry for the Lies"...

Felicity Arbuthnot wrote:
"Creativity is the lifeblood of our organisation." (BBC Mission statement.)

As the sabre rattling towards Iran and the ongoing tragedy in Syria become increasingly hard to unravel, "media errors" or perhaps even "obfuscation" create their own navigational complexities.

One example: on Sunday July 1st, BBC news programmes repeatedly stated that Syrian troops had fired at mourners at a funeral in or near Damascus (i.) Para 4:

"...Meanwhile, activists said a funeral procession in a suburb of Damascus came under mortar attack and 30 people died.

"The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights released amateur video footage claiming to show the explosion in Zamalka, a town 10km (six miles) east of the Syrian capital.

"There has been no independent confirmation of the incident."

However the Los Angeles Times had an entirely different take on exactly the same event (ii.) A car bomb, rather than mortar attacks by Syrian forces, had killed up to eighty five mourners or members of the public:

"The car bomb went off as the procession passed a mosque. Hazy video clouded by dust in the first moments after the explosion showed dozens of mangled bodies lying on the road and the stretcher carrying Halabi's body on the ground nearby.

‘ "I can't describe my feelings, because I am still numb right now given what I saw today," said Abu Omar, whose cousin was killed and father and uncle injured. "No one can withstand what we saw ..." ‘

Car bomb?

See History of the Car Bomb New-generation car bombers are graduates of CIA terrorism schools

When it comes to car and truck bombs, "improvised explosive devices", training schools for hijacking planes etc. the Gladio Gang have all the bases covered since waging holy anticommunist jihad in the 1980's and 90's.


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Scenarios for Syria: War and Stabilization - by Nile Bowie

http://nilebowie.blogspot.ca/2012/07/scenarios-for-syria-war-stabilizati...

"Diplomatic attempts to solve the Syrian crisis have been rejected by both members of the Syrian government and the opposition. As Ankara laments bold rhetoric and militarizes the border with Syria, this article attempts to foresee three possible outcomes to the ongoing crisis.."


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Bodies of Two Turkish Pilots Found

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/249332.html

According to Turkish sources the bodies of Captain Gokhyin Ertan and Lieutenant Hasan Huseyin Aksoy were found on the Eastern Mediterranean sea bed by a US deep sea exploration vessel on Wednesday. The bodies were located at a depth of 1,260 meters..."


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