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2. The Premier of the Northwest Territories suggested using the Mackenzie Valley pipeline to ship tar sand product north to tankers in the Arctic instead of the Enbridge/Northern Gateway route.
3. Harper set a deadline of December 2013 for the Northern Gateway hearings to finish, and the government will make it's decision by June 2014 - a year ahead of the next federal election, so the pipeline does not become an issue in the next federal election. (Harper seems to forget BC has a provincial election coming up...)
In Calgary, realization that the Enbridge pipeline might not go through is beginning to mount, and alternative routes are being considered - shipping by train instead, and expanding the existing pipeline to Vancouver (Burnaby?).
Corporate American energy giant, Kinder Morgan, is planning to double the amount of tar sands heavy oil it brings to our coast for export by building another pipeline from the tar sands right to Burrard Inlet in Vancouver. Doing so would increase the amount of large oil tankers travelling our waters to over 300 each year, increasing the risk of a disastrous spill in this amazingly special part of the world.
So far, the voices of the majority of people who would be affected by a major oil spill from a tanker in Georgia Strait or a pipeline through their community have not been heard by industry and government. Now is a chance to start being heard.
Kinder Morgan is holding information sessions across the Lower Mainland and in other parts of BC about the proposed new Trans Mountain Pipeline. In our opinion, these have not been widely announced and we feel they may be a smoke screen for “consultation” and they are undoubtedly hoping not many folks will turn up to voice their opposition. Some sessions have already happened but there are more to come. Let them know you do not consent to have more oil transported through our communities and our waters!
Please attend these sessions. Let Kinder Morgan know what you think of its plans to bring even more oil to our coast. But be warned, you will be asked to sign in when you arrive, and we are unclear how your personal information will be used or your presence counted in their reporting.
But your presence is needed. We want to make sure that the company does not use these sessions to imply there is support for the project when they formally apply to federal and provincial agencies for approval in 2013. Of course, we ask that all objections are peaceful and respectful.
Calendar of Events (talk.transmountain.com) *** Please note that I have copied this calendar from a corporate web site, there may be other dates/times/sessions, PLEASE CONFIRM the dates/times/sessions for yourself as I've heard that there has been some misdirection in the past ***
26 November 2012 Burnaby Info Session #2 - Eagle Creek Restaurant at Burnaby Mountain Golf Course (7600 Halifax Street) - drop in from 5pm-8pm 27
November 2012 Chilliwack Info Session - Best Western Rainbow Country Inn (43791 Industrial Way) - drop in from 5pm-8pm 28
November 2012 Hope Info Session - C. E. Barry Intermediate School (444 Queen Street) - drop in from 5pm-8pm
29 November 2012 Abbotsford Info Session #2 - Straiton Community Hall (4698 Upper Sumas Mountain Road) - drop in from 5pm-8pm
04 December 2012 Nanaimo Info Session - Beban Park Social Centre, Rooms 1, 2, and 3 (2300 Bowen Road) - drop in from 5pm-8pm
05 December 2012 Greater Victoria Info Session - Cedar Hill Recreation Centre, Art 1 Room (3220 Cedar Hill Rd) - drop in from 5pm-8pm
06 December 2012 West Shore Info Session - Juan de Fuca Recreation Centre, Fieldhouse Lower Area (1767 Island Highway) - drop in from 5pm-8pm
08 December 2012 Saanich Peninsula Info Session - Saanichton Learning Centre, Gymnasium (1649 Mount Newton Cross Road) - drop in from 1pm-3pm
12 January 2013 Salt Spring Island Info Session - Salt Spring Island Lions Hall (103 Bonnet Ave) - drop in from 1pm-1pm
As Chief Justin George from Tsleil-Waututh First Nation said in a recent press release. “It is crucial that residents attend these open houses. Unless the public voices its concerns through this forum, their silence may be deemed as consent. We call on all people to make their voices heard."
Kennedy Stewart, Tory MP for Burnaby North, British Columbia, at the BROKE Town Hall Meeting October 10, 2012 speaking with Rueben George, Tsleil-Waututh Nation, Mayor Derek Corrigan and other dignitaries.
Here is some audio from a talk Robyn Allan gave in several communities in northern BC regarding the proposed Enbridge pipeline. She presented to the panel as well. Her analysis focuses mainly on the economic argument against this proposal, which is substantial, but she also talks about Enbridge's poor environmental record. Her presentation is also available in whole as a video on Youtube.
If you are interested in using this audio, PM me here and I can make it available for download.
..today, in vancouver, there was an attempt to deliver a letter to a corporation called apache. this company is wanting to build a fracking pipeline called the pacific trails pipeline that runs through unis’tot’en territory. here a camp has been set up and is barring the road to any that have the intention of contributing to that pipeline.
..we were unable to deliver that letter as the whole of the 16th floor of the building that houses apache had been sealed. If that was not enough there were at least a dozen police blocking the entrance to the building itself both inside and out. anyone wanting to enter were asked to produce id and state there business.
..the letter itself was from the unis’tot’en people and was instead read out to the 200 or so people who had gather in support of the camp and
against all pipelines that are not consentual. the theme of the demo was NO CONSENT NO PIPELINES. it was a pretty good turnout for a short notice, noon time demo and bodes well for future events.
Please pass this message to those who organized the ralley in front of Apache Oil on Tuesday. Tomorrow Thursday Nov 29th is a big day the the new convention center. The BC Federation of labour will at some point through out the day be debating the topic of the proposed OIL PIPELINES . This debate will be very divisive as it is no doubt such project would create a lot of jobs but of course at what cost to the environment. I am persoannly opposed to the pipelines and support you fully in fighting them off. This is why when tomorrow morning as over 1600+ delegates reperesenting over 50 + unions eneter the buidling I suggest a few people outside with signs like the ones that were at the ralley in front of the Apache oil office. As the debate heats up I have no doubt you will have the power to inspire some people to do whats right and speak on the mics in defense of our indigenous people and the right to their land! Convention starts at 9am people will be coming in earlier come no later than 8:30 . ALSO the leader of the official opposition Thomas Mulcair of the FEDERAL NDP will be making a speech at the convention that morning. YOU MUST BE PRESENT IN THE MORNING TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD OUTSIDE THE BUILDING IN A PEACEFUL WAY!!
Mulcair assails anti-labour policies of federal Tories
quote:
Also Thursday, delegate s both for and against the proposed Enbridge pipeline combined to vote down a compromise resolution that expressed qualified opposition, while insisting that union workers construct the pipeline, should it proceed.
Members of the province’s building trades unions spoke strongly in favour of the pipeline, which is opposed by the provincial NDP.
“Pipeline transmission is the safest form of transportation [there is],” said a delegate from the plumbers’ union. “We apply reality to the environmental question.”
He was joined in voting down the resolution by a Kamloops delegate fervently against the pipeline. “We are not in favour of a watered-down, murky resolution.”
Meanwhile, another delegate from “up north” discounted the jobs pipeline construction would bring. “You can’t have a good job on a dead planet,” she said.
Re: Pipeline is near schools, Burnaby NOW, Nov. 28.
I, too, am a parent concerned about the Kinder-Morgan pipeline's effect on Burnaby schools. Not only are three schools close to the current pipeline - Stoney Creek, Lyndhurst, and Forest Grove - but it also passes within a block of Burnaby North Secondary School, Capitol Hill Elementary School and Confederation Park Elementary School. At the intersection of Gamma and Dundas, it passes by the corner of my child's school playground in Confederation Park.
When this same pipeline broke in North Burnaby in 2007, it sprayed oil on houses over 100 metres away, contaminating gardens and even getting inside open windows. 250 residents had to be evacuated.
Surely we cannot afford to increase the risk of this hazard for six of our local schools.
is it just me or is that picture of the folks blockaded inside the pipe incredibly inspiring?
that, and it really is offensive to me that the company stealing FN land is called "apache" just as bad as the military names for killing machines.
milo204
..your not the only one. i am very much impressed at the struggles occuring in texas re the pipeline. very creative stuff going on. check out their site if you haven't already. there's a video that goes along with the pic from inside the pipe.
..i wondered what the unis’tot’en peoples thought about it. haven't found anything on their web page.
Tahltans Set Up Roadblock To Oppose Red Chris Mine
Totogga Lake, BC - Concerned members of the Tahltan Nation have set up a road block on Highway #37, 80 km south of Dease Lake, BC at the Tatogga Lake Resort. The Red Chris Mine is within the territory of the Tahltan Nation who have occupied territory since time immemorial. The specific area where the Red Chris Mine is being constructed is home to many species of animals including Stone Sheep, Mountain Goat, Moose and Caribou. The Tahltans depend upon these animals for subsistence and believe that the mine will destroy the animal’s habitat and calving grounds that is sacred to the Tahltans....
What do the Alberta Tar Sands and the proposed Kinder Morgan Pipeline have in common? Join us for a screening of "White Water Black Gold", an investigative documentary in search of answers about the true impacts of the Tar Sands.
Friday january 18 at the CAPTIAL HILL COMMUNITY HALL
361 S. Howard Ave., North Burnaby (at Hastings St.)
Trans Mountain Pipeline operators ignored alarms warning of Abbotsford oil spill: report
quote:
A National Energy Board report reveals that Trans Mountain Pipeline operators ignored warning alarms for three-and-a-half hours before responding to a gasket failure that resulted in a crude oil spill last January at its Sumas tank farm near Abbotsford.
It took six hours after the first warning sounded for Trans Mountain’s Sumas operator to arrive on the scene, where a spill was discovered. The crude oil did not escape from a containment area but noxious fumes were released into the atmosphere, affecting nearby residents.
The NEB estimates 90,000 litres of crude oil escaped....
Sign of solidarity, the one I wore at kinder morgan's open house of ill-truth. This was on Snuneymuxw Territory, I felt that many people came out to support the ideals of loving sacredness, and not loving the ideals of pipelines.
Tempers flared as the Pacific Trails Pipeline was the subject of an information session held in Moricetown last night. Unis’tot’en Clan of the Wet’suwet’en Nation has set up a blockade last month to stop surveyors of the project to come through.
The information session was for the public to find out the potential benefits of the natural gas pipeline, but before the representatives on the First Nations Limited Partnership could finish, they were interrupted by protest. Members of the Unis'tot'en clan traveled from their blockade to say that no information session should be held, since they already said no. Dini Ze Toghestiy of the Unis'tot'en Clan “Attempting to disempower us as people in the decision making power, because they got up and said that 15 nations got up and signed up for the agreement, that it would be next to impossible for them to get out of the agreement, that this was going to happen whether we like it or not and it's not something that we are going to take.”....
Panel begins Island hearings on proposed oil pipeline (timescolonist.com)
UPDATED: Vancouver youth storm Christy Clark's riding in protest over pipeline (globaltvbc.com)
I decided to use this old thread rather than start a new one.
Three developments this week:
1. James Moore says BC is not a doormat for Enbridge. Trying to save his seat in BC. Same for other Con MPs in BC.
2. The Premier of the Northwest Territories suggested using the Mackenzie Valley pipeline to ship tar sand product north to tankers in the Arctic instead of the Enbridge/Northern Gateway route.
3. Harper set a deadline of December 2013 for the Northern Gateway hearings to finish, and the government will make it's decision by June 2014 - a year ahead of the next federal election, so the pipeline does not become an issue in the next federal election. (Harper seems to forget BC has a provincial election coming up...)
In Calgary, realization that the Enbridge pipeline might not go through is beginning to mount, and alternative routes are being considered - shipping by train instead, and expanding the existing pipeline to Vancouver (Burnaby?).
http://www.georgiastrait.org/?q=node/1092
mmphosis..didn't realize this thread existed. i'll start posting here.
BROKE = Burnaby Residents Opposing KinderMorgan Expansion
burnabypipelinewatch
Kinder Morgan at Stoney Creek Community School with BROKE and Ben West
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S87RQHfJSqs&feature=player_embedded#!
Mayor Derek Corrigan at BROKE Town Hall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWwJR7AIXig&feature=player_embedded#!
Kennedy Stewart, Tory MP for Burnaby North, British Columbia, at the BROKE Town Hall Meeting October 10, 2012 speaking with Rueben George, Tsleil-Waututh Nation, Mayor Derek Corrigan and other dignitaries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqyxlwQyOwA&feature=player_embedded#!
Fake consultation process isn’t fooling anyone: B.C. doesn’t want new Kinder Morgan pipeline (burnabypipelinewatch.ca)
'Our support will not be bought!' Burnaby residents respond to Kinder Morgan pipeline expansion proposal (rabble.ca)
Here is some audio from a talk Robyn Allan gave in several communities in northern BC regarding the proposed Enbridge pipeline. She presented to the panel as well. Her analysis focuses mainly on the economic argument against this proposal, which is substantial, but she also talks about Enbridge's poor environmental record. Her presentation is also available in whole as a video on Youtube.
If you are interested in using this audio, PM me here and I can make it available for download.
..today, in vancouver, there was an attempt to deliver a letter to a corporation called apache. this company is wanting to build a fracking pipeline called the pacific trails pipeline that runs through unis’tot’en territory. here a camp has been set up and is barring the road to any that have the intention of contributing to that pipeline.
..we were unable to deliver that letter as the whole of the 16th floor of the building that houses apache had been sealed. If that was not enough there were at least a dozen police blocking the entrance to the building itself both inside and out. anyone wanting to enter were asked to produce id and state there business.
..the letter itself was from the unis’tot’en people and was instead read out to the 200 or so people who had gather in support of the camp and
Unist’ot’en Letter to Industry and Government Warning Against Trespass
against all pipelines that are not consentual. the theme of the demo was NO CONSENT NO PIPELINES. it was a pretty good turnout for a short notice, noon time demo and bodes well for future events.
..support for the camp came from other places
Saint Johns Newfoundland
Montreal
Edmonton
Hamilton
Victoria
Regina
Prince George
Terrace BC
Chico, California
Toronto
The Houston Texas crew representing us with a solidarity stance at APACHE HEADQUARTERS!!!!
Our friends and allies at the Tar Sands Blockade where there is a tree sit happening (texas) to stop the XL Pipeline show their true colors.
Women's Warrior Song, In Solidarity with Unist'ot'en--No Consent! (vancouver)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151535352507542
Here's a great song and video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U4pNTx-5g6g
What they need is a Soc-Cred government to pawn it off to corporate America for a song.
Oops! Mulroney and Chretien already sold the environment to Exxon-Imperial and the fossil fuel industry.
Decades ago.
Barn door wide open? NO cows? WTH?
This has to be one of the worst cases of delayed reaction in Canadian history.
We need a national energy policy written by Canadians for Canadians not dictated to us from corporate board rooms in America.
Please pass this message to those who organized the ralley in front of Apache Oil on Tuesday. Tomorrow Thursday Nov 29th is a big day the the new convention center. The BC Federation of labour will at some point through out the day be debating the topic of the proposed OIL PIPELINES . This debate will be very divisive as it is no doubt such project would create a lot of jobs but of course at what cost to the environment. I am persoannly opposed to the pipelines and support you fully in fighting them off. This is why when tomorrow morning as over 1600+ delegates reperesenting over 50 + unions eneter the buidling I suggest a few people outside with signs like the ones that were at the ralley in front of the Apache oil office. As the debate heats up I have no doubt you will have the power to inspire some people to do whats right and speak on the mics in defense of our indigenous people and the right to their land!
Convention starts at 9am people will be coming in earlier come no later than 8:30 . ALSO the leader of the official opposition Thomas Mulcair of the FEDERAL NDP will be making a speech at the convention that morning. YOU MUST BE PRESENT IN THE MORNING TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD OUTSIDE THE BUILDING IN A PEACEFUL WAY!!
https://www.facebook.com/unistoten
Mulcair assails anti-labour policies of federal Tories
quote:
Also Thursday, delegate s both for and against the proposed Enbridge pipeline combined to vote down a compromise resolution that expressed qualified opposition, while insisting that union workers construct the pipeline, should it proceed.
Members of the province’s building trades unions spoke strongly in favour of the pipeline, which is opposed by the provincial NDP.
“Pipeline transmission is the safest form of transportation [there is],” said a delegate from the plumbers’ union. “We apply reality to the environmental question.”
He was joined in voting down the resolution by a Kamloops delegate fervently against the pipeline. “We are not in favour of a watered-down, murky resolution.”
Meanwhile, another delegate from “up north” discounted the jobs pipeline construction would bring. “You can’t have a good job on a dead planet,” she said.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/mulcair-assails-ant...
BREAKING: Two People Barricade Themselves Inside Keystone XL Pipe To Halt Construction
video, pics & text
http://tarsandsblockade.org/14th-action/
Risks not worth it
Dear Editor:
Re: Pipeline is near schools, Burnaby NOW, Nov. 28.
I, too, am a parent concerned about the Kinder-Morgan pipeline's effect on Burnaby schools. Not only are three schools close to the current pipeline - Stoney Creek, Lyndhurst, and Forest Grove - but it also passes within a block of Burnaby North Secondary School, Capitol Hill Elementary School and Confederation Park Elementary School. At the intersection of Gamma and Dundas, it passes by the corner of my child's school playground in Confederation Park.
When this same pipeline broke in North Burnaby in 2007, it sprayed oil on houses over 100 metres away, contaminating gardens and even getting inside open windows. 250 residents had to be evacuated.
Surely we cannot afford to increase the risk of this hazard for six of our local schools.
http://www.burnabynow.com/news/Risks+worth/7632911/story.html#ixzz2E7wVRbeZ
is it just me or is that picture of the folks blockaded inside the pipe incredibly inspiring?
that, and it really is offensive to me that the company stealing FN land is called "apache" just as bad as the military names for killing machines.
milo204
..your not the only one. i am very much impressed at the struggles occuring in texas re the pipeline. very creative stuff going on. check out their site if you haven't already. there's a video that goes along with the pic from inside the pipe.
..i wondered what the unis’tot’en peoples thought about it. haven't found anything on their web page.
..wanted to point out that other blockades are popping up in bc regarding resources. people are coming together.
yesterday in roberts creek 25 arrests were made including elders. this re logging.
..while on cortes island day 2 of the blockade
http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/story/sing-stand-and-send-it-its-merry-way/14764
..and there's this
Tahltans Set Up Roadblock To Oppose Red Chris Mine
Totogga Lake, BC - Concerned members of the Tahltan Nation have set up a road block on Highway #37, 80 km south of Dease Lake, BC at the Tatogga Lake Resort. The Red Chris Mine is within the territory of the Tahltan Nation who have occupied territory since time immemorial. The specific area where the Red Chris Mine is being constructed is home to many species of animals including Stone Sheep, Mountain Goat, Moose and Caribou. The Tahltans depend upon these animals for subsistence and believe that the mine will destroy the animal’s habitat and calving grounds that is sacred to the Tahltans....
http://intercontinentalcry.org/tahltans-set-up-roadblock-to-oppose-red-c...
What do the Alberta Tar Sands and the proposed Kinder Morgan Pipeline have in common? Join us for a screening of "White Water Black Gold", an investigative documentary in search of answers about the true impacts of the Tar Sands.
Friday january 18 at the CAPTIAL HILL COMMUNITY HALL
361 S. Howard Ave., North Burnaby (at Hastings St.)
7:00 PM Door Open
Trans Mountain Pipeline operators ignored alarms warning of Abbotsford oil spill: report
quote:
A National Energy Board report reveals that Trans Mountain Pipeline operators ignored warning alarms for three-and-a-half hours before responding to a gasket failure that resulted in a crude oil spill last January at its Sumas tank farm near Abbotsford.
It took six hours after the first warning sounded for Trans Mountain’s Sumas operator to arrive on the scene, where a spill was discovered. The crude oil did not escape from a containment area but noxious fumes were released into the atmosphere, affecting nearby residents.
The NEB estimates 90,000 litres of crude oil escaped....
http://www.burnabypipelinewatch.ca/content/trans-mountain-pipeline-opera...
aptn Investigates: Fracking PART 1
aptn Investigates: Fracking PART 2
UPDATE: Mid Island chapter at open-house protest against Trans Mountain pipeline (canadians.org)
Sign of solidarity, the one I wore at kinder morgan's open house of ill-truth. This was on Snuneymuxw Territory, I felt that many people came out to support the ideals of loving sacredness, and not loving the ideals of pipelines.
FNLP Meeting in Moricetown Raised Tempers
Tempers flared as the Pacific Trails Pipeline was the subject of an information session held in Moricetown last night. Unis’tot’en Clan of the Wet’suwet’en Nation has set up a blockade last month to stop surveyors of the project to come through.
The information session was for the public to find out the potential benefits of the natural gas pipeline, but before the representatives on the First Nations Limited Partnership could finish, they were interrupted by protest. Members of the Unis'tot'en clan traveled from their blockade to say that no information session should be held, since they already said no. Dini Ze Toghestiy of the Unis'tot'en Clan “Attempting to disempower us as people in the decision making power, because they got up and said that 15 nations got up and signed up for the agreement, that it would be next to impossible for them to get out of the agreement, that this was going to happen whether we like it or not and it's not something that we are going to take.”....
http://www.cftktv.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=1836760