A good song regardless
Fri, 2007-04-06 14:25
#1
A good song regardless
Fri, 2007-04-06 14:25
#2
Skeptical or believer in the official version of 9-11, this video is just that, a song. Some would say it is informative.
"Music Video: 9/11 Truth Song"
[url=http://tinyurl.com/3298jb]http://tinyurl.com/3298jb[/url]
The lyrics go :
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There's a million reasons why I don't believe it
There's a million reasons why it can't be true
Open fire can't melt steel
It's not hot enough
(It's nothing new it's not a mystery, check out the Reichstag Germany).There's a million questions still remain unanswered
There's a million questions still to be resolved
Out of 19 Muslim guys
7 Still remain alive
(It's nothing new it's not a mystery, check out the USS Liberty).9/11, 9/11, what went down with building 7?
It's a mystery to this day
The building fell with such precision
Freefall speed no reason's given
Like the towers it just fell
And fire's not enough
No way hot enough to bring 'em downThe Project for the new American century (PNAC)
Was added to a year before that day
It states in order to proceed
A modern day pearl harbour it would need
(In Vietnam it was just the same, the gulf of Tonkin took the blame).
9/11 set them free the project for the new American century.
It's just a lie it's a conspiracy, Cold War, Bird Flu, W.M.D9/11, 9/11, what went down with building 7?
It's a mystery to this day
The building fell with such precision
Freefall speed no reason's given
Like the towers it just fell
And fire's not enough
No way hot enough to bring 'em downWe've gotta stand up, we've gotta be strong
We've gotta hold our nerve until the job is done
And they've made a killing
They don't care about the blood that they're spilling9/11, 9/11, what went down with building 7?
Ever since that fateful day
Our civil rights have disappeared
A global fascist state draws near
And our freedom slips away
And they don't give a stuff
They've made that clear enough
So now it's up to us to bring 'em down
Fri, 2007-04-06 14:49
#3
[ 08 April 2007: Message edited by: lowermainland ]
Fri, 2007-04-06 16:56
#4
I think it was the al Qaeda arm of the CIA.
Fri, 2007-04-06 17:34
#5
lowermainland,
I titled the thread "A good song regardless". I do not see why you are asking me about "space aliens".
Your nastiness is gratuitious.
[ 06 April 2007: Message edited by: bohajal ]
Fri, 2007-04-06 18:32
#6
How bout learning to control your own nastiness first?
"lowermainland, I titled the thread "A good song regardless". I also found it funny. But that is me.Now why don't you go fuck yourself."
Edit functions aren't much use when you replace them with even worse insults about being members of "cabals" or "racist" organizations.
Fri, 2007-04-06 18:52
#7
Yes I did use some language following lowemainland's nasty question about "space aliens". When I realized the person is a woman, I erased the expression I used and replaced it with "Take a hike.."
I never use foul language with women.
I feel like using the original expression and dedicate it to the "recorder" EriKtheHalfaRed.
Let it be known that I had debunked EriKtheHalfaRed's arguments in another thread and he seems wanting to avenge himself, not with arguments, though, but with childishness.
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Edit functions aren't much use when you replace them with even worse insults about being members of "cabals" or "racist" organizations.
Who is talking about racist organizations, stupid ass ?
This is what the word Cabal means:
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Main Entry: 1ca·bal
Pronunciation: k&-'bдl, -'bal
Function: noun
Etymology: French cabale cabala, intrigue, cabal, from Medieval Latin cabbala cabala, from Late Hebrew qabbAlAh, literally, received (lore)
1 : the artifices and intrigues of a group of persons secretly united in a plot (as to overturn a government); also : a group engaged in such artifices and intrigues
Erik look here:
"The White House Cabal" in Common Dreams's website.
[url=http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1025-25.htm]http://www.commondreams....
Don't you look like an ass, Erik ?
[ 06 April 2007: Message edited by: bohajal ]
Fri, 2007-04-06 19:24
#8
Gah! Is it not enough for these people to inflict their asinine thoughts on us in prose form? Is it really necessary for them to set them to music in the form of wincingly bad lyrics?
Fri, 2007-04-06 20:18
#9
Scott Piatkowski
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When I realized the person is a woman, I erased the expression I used and replaced it with "Take a hike.." I never use foul language with women.
How gratuitously sexist of you.
Fri, 2007-04-06 20:26
#10
Yes, you sure showed me. I noticed you edited your post again too. Onto more interesting subjects.
Fri, 2007-04-06 21:26
#11
OK, to get away from the sniping for a second, the tune lyrics are actually right.
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Open fire can't melt steel.
That's news.
Open fire, as in a fire in an open area using most common materials can't usually melt steel.
The thing is that the fire resulting from exploding jet fuel in the towers wasn't exactly in an open area.
Although I can't come up with a link just now, I do remember some engineers testifying before the 911 Inquiry Commission (that is before Fuhrer Bush closed it down) saying that the fire, especially in the center of the buildings, had no avenue to dissipate the heat, since it was basically in a closed area that produced an oven-like effect.
Add to this, the fire didn't actually melt the steel, but heated it to a point where it got too weak to hold together the concrete moulds. So the buildings literally collapsed under their own weight.
They also said that in their view there's no way that whoever planned the attacks, be it Al Qaeda, CIA, etc, could have calculated this to happen. It was a total fluke, since there is no actual way to calculate the proper ratios by simply slamming jet planes into the side of a building.
Fri, 2007-04-06 22:41
#12
It was the picture of the John Bolton Walrus that convinced me 9/11 was indeed a hoax.
Sat, 2007-04-07 05:20
#13
These conspiracy theories illuminate a dark corner in human thinking.
Even if it's evil control, we'd perfer-- or at least the conspiracy theorists would prefer-- a world ordered by evil men to one of chaos.
But if we were to entertain a conspiracy theory regarding the destruction of the World Trade Center and the damage to the Pentagon, one might point the finger at consiracy theorists who might be a government plot to disuade people from realizing that the world's highest spending nation on the military couldn't scramble an armed jet in the entire eastern sea board, and to stop people from contemplating that a handfull of religious wack jobs could kill so many people.
Without the conspiracy theorists, we'd be stuck with some very uncomfortable questions that couldn't be easily dismissed. Wasted money on the military industrial complex that didn't end up protecting America. The concept that religion is a mental disorder. Wasted money on inteligence services that didn't detect that something was wrong with a bunch of guys who only wanted to fly big jets, and didn't want to land them or learn how to get them air borne.
Yes, the conspiracy theories about an evil, but competent leadership is there to cover up the questions about an incompetently evil leadership.
Sat, 2007-04-07 07:14
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[ 08 April 2007: Message edited by: lowermainland ]
Sat, 2007-04-07 07:46
#15
"...open fire can't melt steel"
So, how did ancient metalsmiths create the necessary heat to make steel malleable? Nuclear reactors?
"...religion is a mental disorder."
If all people with religious beliefs are 'mentally disordered', then what is your standard of normality?
I don't know if it is a 'good song' since I can't hear the tune, but I can't say I'm thrilled about the lyrics. [img]rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img]
[ 07 April 2007: Message edited by: marzo ]
Sat, 2007-04-07 07:51
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The concept that religion is a mental disorder Tommy_Paine
I wish you had not resorted to self-righteous, fanatic right wingers rhetoric towards people who act, think and feel different than them.
I fail to see the difference between your statement and that of right wingers who proclaim that homosexuality is not only a sin, but a mental disorder.
Sat, 2007-04-07 12:44
#17
Well, if you believe flying a jet into a building, killing thousands of innocent people would earn you an eternity in paradise, then ya, that's a mental disorder.
Catch Pat Robertson's act. Or Benny Hinn. David Koresh.
To name a few, and tell me that they and their more ardent followers don't have a screw loose.
Is my nieghbor who goes to church every once and a while mentally ill? No.
But it's clear that religion is used to mask behaviors that an athiest would be locked away in a psych ward for.
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I fail to see the difference between your statement and that of right wingers who proclaim that homosexuality is not only a sin, but a mental disorder.
Well, the difference is quite apparent. They're nuttier than fruit cakes.
And I'm not.
Sat, 2007-04-07 12:56
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If all people with religious beliefs are 'mentally disordered', then what is your standard of normality?
That's a very good question, and one I have been trying to answer in my own mind for some time.
Of course, we have had governments that have used asylums and the diagnosis of insanity to attack disodents, and a determination of what level of religious devotion constitutes a mental disorder has to be approached with this in mind.
I wouldn't want to see any diagnosis ever used as a weapon against freedom of religious thought.
But at the same time, the world would be a safer place if dangerous religious zealots were not afforded the protection of religious freedom as a veneer for abhorent behavior.
Sat, 2007-04-07 13:15
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That's a very good question, and one I have been trying to answer in my own mind for some time. Tommy_Paine
You can always pray for an answer [img]smile.gif" border="0[/img]
Of course that was a joke.
Your statement that "religion is a mental disorder" was sweeping, Tommy. You seem to be judging religion and people with faith on the basis of what some nuts -whether Christians, Jews Muslims, Sikhs or whatever- do and say.
Sat, 2007-04-07 13:45
#20
Yeah?
Fuck the Iranian regime and everything it stands for.
Godamn all the the theocrats and their pretensions.
quote:
http://beirut.indymedia.org/ar/2005/07/2999.shtml
Sat, 2007-04-07 14:14
#21
The real outrage here is the cringe inducing bad lyrics:
"9/11, 9/11, what went down with building 7?
It's a mystery to this day
The building fell with such precision
Freefall speed no reason's given
Like the towers it just fell
And fire's not enough
No way hot enough to bring 'em down"
[img]eek.gif" border="0[/img] Shocking abuse of language there, Obscurantist was right on about that. Maybe it's time to start teaching iambic pentameter, phrasing and the basics of cadence again to the next generation of would be poets and rebels. Do appreciate the willingness to forgo the usual rhyming schemes though. [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]
[ 07 April 2007: Message edited by: EriKtheHalfaRed ]
Sat, 2007-04-07 15:07
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Yeah?
Fuck the Iranian regime and everything it stands for.Godamn all the the theocrats and their pretensions.
Profound.
ETA: Besides being off topic. Who -in this thread- ever mentioned Iran or the Iranian regime besides you ? What does Iran have to do with 9 11 ?, with the song ?
They are all brown, all the same ?
[ 07 April 2007: Message edited by: bohajal ]
Sun, 2007-04-08 05:56
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Your statement that "religion is a mental disorder" was sweeping, Tommy. You seem to be judging religion and people with faith on the basis of what some nuts -whether Christians, Jews Muslims, Sikhs or whatever- do and say.
To some extent, yes. But the very basis of religion is, while not classically insane at all times, is undeniably irrational. Any action flowing from a basis of irrationality is bound to be fruit from a poisoned tree.
Sun, 2007-04-08 06:06
#24
bohojal, could you PLEASE learn to control your temper? Your personal attacks in this thread, as with others in the past, are gratuitous and uncalled for.
lowermainland, while I agree with your assessment of the brutal theocrats in charge of Iran, it really has nothing to do with this thread topic. Try to stick with the program, okay?
[ 08 April 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]
Sun, 2007-04-08 19:37
#25
M. Spector
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion."
- [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Pirsig]Robert M. Pirsig[/url]
Mon, 2007-04-09 11:09
#26
The question of the collapse of WTC 7 still remains officially unexplained. It was not included in the 9/11 commission report. FEMA's explanation is that further investigation is necessary.
There has been some argument that diesel fuel stored for an emergency generator was the cause of the collapse. Try melting I beam with diesel.
The jet fuel ignition at the twin towers doesn't explain the molten metal found in the basement of the rubble WEEKS after the 9/11 attacks. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel.
Indeed, the fire wasn't that hot at all given that video shows people waving for help from the hole made by the planes' collision.
There are many more anomolies in the official 9/11 report...a report authored by PNAC member and Bush appointee Richard Zelikow.
And hey, why did it take Mr. Bush over 400 days to even allow an investigation?