Dawkins, Islam in schools, Part II

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Originally posted by Cueball:
[b]But as a "resident" in modern medicine, I highly doubt that he found his religious beliefs in conflict with the biological science he has been taught.[/b]

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Shows how much you know.

There are tens of thousands of Christian evangelicals and fundamentalists practising medicine in the USA today. They believe religious nonsense with one part of their brain, and scientific medicine with another part of their brain. They may know there's a conflict, but they never bother to resolve it.

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Originally posted by M. Spector:
[b]Shows how much you know.

There are tens of thousands of Christian evangelicals and fundamentalists practising medicine in the USA today. They believe religious nonsense with one part of their brain, and scientific medicine with another part of their brain. They may know there's a conflict, but they never bother to resolve it.[/b]

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I said the subject never came up. I still hold out hope that one of these days the part of the brain that you are using to read, will connect up to the part of the brain that formulates your "ideas".

[ 12 August 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]

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I don't know why people can't see Cueball's objection to how this has been presented and allowed to carry over to babble. Do progressives not see Islam as the massive dartboard in the news these days?

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But RP [sarcasm alert], don't you understand? Re-read our resident moralist... it's just an [b]idea[/b] that is being attacked, invaded, machine-gunned, bombed... surely, you wouldn't object to the free critique of ideas (especially those trotted out by brown kids). If Dawkins' unprovoked attack on British Muslim kids and parents can be passed off as honourable resistance to creationism being taught in public schools - as some here have tried very hard to do - then Western civilization can proceed with the massacre unimpeded.

[ 12 August 2008: Message edited by: martin dufresne ]

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Originally posted by RosaL:
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Exactly.

But apparently this guy was drinking alcohol, which Islam prohibits, so I'm not sure he's much of an indication anyway, even if we were inclined to accept "anecdotal evidence".[/b]

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'bout time for some other objection to Dawkins anecdotal evidence.

Nice one with the alcohol. [img]rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img]

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Originally posted by unionist:
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Cueball, as far as I can fathom, is now arguing:

1. Dawkins has no clue what Islam says about creation.

2. Cueball has never talked to any Muslims about this issue.

3. Therefore, Dawkins is a racist, and the rest of his work is all a sham.

Just synthesizing and trying to make sense of it. I failed.[/b]

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Yup. You failed to find what it is that you wanted to find, and such has caused a cognitive disconnect. Try resetting to zero, or rebooting the machine with a more up-to-date operating system... say something post 1848.

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Originally posted by Cueball:
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Exactly my point Rosa. My anecdote is an anecdote. However I am not using my anecdote as a basis of making sweeping generalizations about marginalized people, and broad stroke arguements about public policy. Dawkins can unlock the key to a thousand years of Islamic thought, simply by talking to some Muslim teenagers.[/b]

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I have said that I don't think Dawkins has a good grasp of religion. But he doesn't attack Islam any more than he does any other religion - if anything, he attacks it less. And none of this makes him a racist.

And was his anecdote cited as compelling evidence for what he had to say or as illustrative of it?

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Originally posted by unionist:
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Cueball, as far as I can fathom, is now arguing:

1. Dawkins has no clue what Islam says about creation.

2. Cueball has never talked to any Muslims about this issue.

3. Therefore, Dawkins is a racist, and the rest of his work is all a sham.

Just synthesizing and trying to make sense of it. I failed.[/b]

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I thought he was objecting to this even being worthy of discussion. There's no story here.

[newsalert] : if you don't keep an eye on right-wing rags, Islam-bashing(and the recently added Olympic event of China-bashing) is on the rise.