Really isnt a lot of barbed wire Fidel, cross at Wolfe island and you'll just see one booth with one guy on the dock. It varies from corssing to crossing but given that Ive seen much worse (including machine guns, flamethrowers and minefields with the barbwire) the eastern bloc crossings were the worst (those the racism and brutality at the ceuta crossing from morocco to spain was truly over the top)
Bush's bullies at the border
Mon, 2008-09-01 17:47
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Mon, 2008-09-01 18:19
#53
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Originally posted by Bacchus:
[b]Really isnt a lot of barbed wire Fidel, cross at Wolfe island and you'll just see one booth with one guy on the dock. It varies from corssing to crossing but given that Ive seen much worse (including machine guns, flamethrowers and minefields with the barbwire) the eastern bloc crossings were the worst (those the racism and brutality at the ceuta crossing from morocco to spain was truly over the top)[/b]
Ya I read the Germans shot a few Nazi war criminals trying to escape into the waiting arms of the democratizers. The OSS/CIA basically re-created Himmler's SS to run the spy ops out of West Germany. And today the USSA owns the largest gulag population in the world - is the largest exporter of torture and terror - and spying on Americans(Canadians too?) [url=http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9298]The Lives of Others[/url] in the USsA.
In the USsA, the fasces symbol is a bundle of fiber optic data communication pipelines re-routed to NSA servers where techno-fascists examine millions of peoples' personal communications with an evil electronic eye.
Other than a few small issues concerning privacy and freedom in general, the U.S. is not a bad country when not waging war on democracy around the world before and after 1991.
[ 01 September 2008: Message edited by: Fidel ]
Mon, 2008-09-01 19:32
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Ya I read the Germans shot a few Nazi war criminals trying to escape into the waiting arms of the democratizers
Really? the men women and children shot by East German border guards were all Nazi War Criminals. Well then they deserved it!! Should have shot more women and children then
Mon, 2008-09-01 19:47
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Originally posted by Bacchus:
[b]Really? the men women and children shot by East German border guards were all Nazi War Criminals. Well then they deserved it!! Should have shot more women and children then[/b]
They were Germans shooting Germans, and they didn't miss often.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio]Gladio: NATO's stay behind terrorists[/url]
[url=http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB146/index.htm]Our friends the Nazis[/url] And they showed little mercy in pushing and prodding children and old people to the slave labour camps and gas chambers-crematoria. And good old Canada welcomed over 2000 waffen SS and many more creme de la creme/scum of the earth on the lamb running away from the communists and Israelis. Many lived out the rest of their natural lives in North America, were provided good jobs, and collected Canadian and American pensions while living under their real names.
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"The Americans had gone beyond the infiltration and monitoring of extremist groups to instigating acts of violence." - GENERAL GIANADELIO MALETTI, head of Italian counter-intelligence 1971-1975
Meanwhile, U.S.-backed death squad regimes were slaughtering hundreds of thousands of indigenous people throughout the Central Latin American holocaust. Nothing says freedom more than a malnourished Guatemalan boy begging for handouts next to a McDonald's Restaurant.
[ 01 September 2008: Message edited by: Fidel ]
Mon, 2008-09-01 21:12
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Bacchus if you can provide a worse example, that exonerates any wrongdoing by the communist states?
Two wrongs make a right?
Mon, 2008-09-01 21:28
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Now that NATO has no more cold war nemesis, the U.S. has only violated sovereign borders several times with carpet bombings and military occupations, and in violation of Nuremberg code we should add. And NATO continues encircling Russia and China with nuclear and offensive weapons, and adding to the more than 700 cold war era military bases. *This is after bombing 30 countries since Nagasaki and Hiroshima - attempting to overthrow more than 40 foreign governments - murdering over 12 million human beings directly - and propping up over three dozen intolerable right-wing regimes until the people themselves overthrew them - and with millions more still suffering lives of despair and hopelessness. ~ William Blum
I've seen so much in so many places
So many heartaches, so many faces
So many dirty things
You couldn't even believe
I would stand in line for this
There's always room in life for this
Oh babe, oh babe
Then it fell apart, it fell apart - Moby
[ 01 September 2008: Message edited by: Fidel ]