"Event to promote use of French in retail stores"

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toddsschneider
"Event to promote use of French in retail stores"

 

toddsschneider

"Conference follows reports of widespread English speaking by sales staff downtown"

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... "We can obviously rejoice in the fact that, during the past 30 years, the francization of the workplace and retail businesses has progressed, in Montreal as well as in the rest of Quebec," according to a pre-conference open letter published ... in several French-language newspapers.

It was co-signed by 20 other officials from a cross-section of groups ranging from the Conseil du patronat du Quйbec, which lobbies for the province's big employers, to the two largest union centrals, the Fйdйration des Travailleurs du Quйbec and the Confйdйration des Syndicats Nationaux.

"From a standpoint of logic and on a strict economic basis," the letter stated, "francophone clientele - even downtown - is simply too important to ignore" and the ability to provide service in French "is uncontestably an indispensible ingredient in business success."


Kinetix

I've never had trouble receiving service in French in montreal with the exception of businesses operated by immigrants who may not necessarily speak much English or French. This is more thinly veiled racism from those pretending to represent the interests of French speakers. It's no longer an anti Anglo sentiment because the anglos who don't speak any French have mostly disappeared as the public face of business in the city.

toddsschneider

"One in five shoppers still served in English"

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Francophone Quebecers tend too much to communicate with anglophone store clerks in English rather than French, Premier Jean Charest suggested yesterday. Six of every 10 people surveyed on Montreal Island said they usually respond in English whenever greeted by a shop employee in that language.

"I think that's too much," Charest told reporters.
The Liberal leader was wrapping up a one-day round of consensus-building over measures intended to increase the use of French in Montreal.

Held at the Palais des congrиs, the event attracted more than 200 participants and yielded an almost unanimous consensus that francization rules under the Charter of the French Language should not be extended to businesses with fewer than 50 employees ...


viigan

"Six of every 10 people surveyed on Montreal Island said they usually respond in English whenever greeted by a shop employee in that language.
"I think that's too much," Charest told reporters."

As usual, Quebec petty politics seem to be staying abreast of the colossal events that are sweeping the world. You would think that the premier's concern would centre around the fact that shoppers, whether English or French, are probably not shopping so much these days as the middle class dwindles under the current economic threats they face. But it's business as usual when trying to garner votes amongst the segment of our population that has been conditioned to scapegoat their minorities in turbulent times.

Can someone please explain to me why we vote for any of these bozos??? Federal or provincial, nothing ever changes. The large issues always remain while they harp on petty differences that seperate populations along irrelevant demarcations that in the grand scheme of things don't mean that much. If the housing crisis that nailed the Americans hits here, as it looks like it might, it wont really matter if your foreclosure papers are in French or English. But you can bet your ass that neither Bouchard or Charest, Dion, Harper, Layton or any of our political figures, will watch their retirement savings dwindle, lose their homes, or roll up their change to buy a pack of smokes.

QatzelOk

Oh Viigan, your right to shop in English is obviously a lot more noble than any attempts to preserve some kind of tradional non-consumer culture.

But aren't there thousands of anglophone malls in North America? Why do you insist on anglicizing (or just smearing) the few that haven't succumbed to consumer totalitarianism yet?

Does the French language and culture have any value to you? Or do you only see the items that are on sale at the mall as having value?

Kinetix

Qatzel0K, I don't think viigan's point is what you believe it is.  I believe he's saying that there are more important issues to concern ourselves with.

And he's right.  We're missing the forest for the trees.

toddsschneider

Kinetix wrote:

Qatzel0K, I don't think viigan's point is what you believe it is.  I believe he's saying that there are more important issues to concern ourselves with.

And he's right.  We're missing the forest for the trees.

I'm missing viigan.  He was voted off the island a few days ago, which is one of the issues we might concern ourselves with around here.

lagatta

He wasn't voted off anything. The moderators determined he wasn't in his place here. Over the years, this has happened to more than one rightwinger (claiming to be "on the left"), bigot, "fathers' rights activist", homophobe, aggressive troll, etc.

To be fair, I've seen similar anglophobes on francophone boards. I think one should lock them all up in a room and let them have at one another.

toddsschneider

I've seen similar francophones in Quebec politics, whether sovereignist or "just" nationalist.  I think one should lock them all up in a room and let them get over their xenophobia, especially their anglophobia.

As for viigan's status here on babble, no one said this was a democracy, after all.  At least we have his postings to read to determine "his place" for ourselves.

 

 

lagatta

You really think all sovereignists or nationalists are anglophobes? (Even the anglophone ones?)

Stop mocking my posts in such a trolling way. That is extremely rude and macho bullying. I guess since you don't have viigan to play hardcop, you have to bring out the long knives, and your deep hatred for the Québecois nation.

toddsschneider

I do not hate "the Quebec nation", however one cares to define it, whether civic or ethnic. Where in this forum have I demonstrated otherwise? I live in Quebec and have made it my home, however uncomfortably and afflictedly.

Quebec sovereignists and nationalists are not *necessarily* xenophobes or ethnocentric, but as the old joke goes about chicken soup, it couldn't hurt. I do have a serious litmus test for such persuasions, though.  What percentage of the Quebec public sector (a lever already in provincial hands) should be made up of minorities? Everyone is Quebec is equal, but some are more equal than others.

As for your other accusations: this may not be the thread to argue the meaning of bullying, macho or otherwise.  If you feel I have mocked you, I apologize.  I will be mature enough deal in ideas and events, not personalities.