Coalition dead? CTV: NDP and Bloc plotted for weeks

Whenever you see the words Stephen Ledrew, ignore the article - and I LIKE the bow-ties.

CTV's Robert Fife - I ignore anything out of his mouth as well.

Plotted? How about "prudently explored"? How about leaving off the cuff to reactions to the reactionaries? Me, I like planning (in politics and economies).

The Cons are getting desperate - the CTV news anchor just suggested the Cons may prorogue Parliament this week until the Budget is handed down January 27th/

Boom Boom wrote:

The Cons are getting desperate - the CTV news anchor just suggested the Cons may prorogue Parliament this week until the Budget is handed down January 27th/

Lol. That is about the worst thing they could do- smacks of Reichstag fire and all. If the anchor really said that, then I hope the opposition plays this up big time to show exactly how far the Conservatives are willing to go in their desperation to retain power (and consequently subvert democracy).

If the Cons were to prorogue Parliament, all the money in the world couldn't buy themselves out of this crisis. I wonder if their polling just came in and showed they have no support from the Canadian public.

Ok, I have been having far too much fun with the coalition vs conservative battle raging. I started a poll on another forum back on November 27th. It has 51 votes so far, and goes back another forth between the coalition and the conservatives. I started it as a joke, because in another thread, I realized that the coalition talks were taking shape and the Irony of Duceppe fronting a Coalition and sitting as Prime Minister put me into comedic fits of laughter. No it wouldn't happen, but the theory that it could, was a bit much. So the 2nd part of the question is Who should be Prime Minister of the Coalition. 

Currently, Harper is still more popular as a Conservative Leader then any one Dominant Leadership challenge. Ignatieff is the most popular so far, with Dion in 2nd.

Don't know forum rules, but if anyone is interested in having fun, voting in my mock/joke poll, I would post the link. 

So, shortly after the announcement on CTV, I would have thought that the poll numbers would have increased for the Conservatives. Nope, the CPC momentum has slowed and the Coalition picked up.

Who knows.....

Now, please tell me what "Criminal" aspect are you speaking of?? Is this Nixon Stuff?

V. Jara wrote:

If the Cons were to prorogue Parliament, all the money in the world couldn't buy themselves out of this crisis. I wonder if their polling just came in and showed they have no support from the Canadian public.

 Maybe. Or perhaps they are just hoping the coalition talks collapse between now and when the House comes back.

Here is the whole transcript on Canoe. There isn't much to write home about.

NDP CONFERENCE CALL TRANSCRIPT

Now, will there be an independent NDP caucus, yes. BQ stability issues, worry about BQ potentially being off-side, we're taking that very much into account. We have numerous strategies designed to deal with it, I actually believe they're the least of our problems, but in case I'm wrong, let's just say we have strategies, this whole thing would not have happened if the moves hadn't have been made with the Bloc to lock them in early, because you couldn't put three people together in one, in three hours. The first part was done a long time ago, I won't go into details, and the managing expectations, lists from groups, actually, the wisest people in the groups are already coming to the conclusion, some of them are in direct contact, saying probably wouldn't be too helpful if we had long lists of stuff, right? What we really want is just to get Harper out and get the new group in because it's going to be a hell of a lot better for everything we believe in, correct? Correct. So let's stay on that track, and not start debating whether or not it's twenty five percent change or fifteen percent change over here, let's get them out, on the basis of unity not the basis of division.

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There is the beef. It is a pretty slim patty if you ask me. Possible more damage then its worth for the CPC. A Grewal Moment ????

Frankly what I want to see are some damn polls. COME ON!

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(Text of letter to Harper deleted)

It has suddenly occurred to me that with the wonders of Google, a direct link could be drawn (through the text of the letter I sent) between my on-line identity and my real name and address. Obviously, this is unlikely, but I still think it best not to have that possibility out there. If anyone would like me to PM them the letter, I would be happy to do so.

The LPC probably view themselves as out of danger, as long as they get their $1.95. That is what survival meant to them. Perhaps the LPC doubters were correct. However, every hour, things change. The LPC, to turn down power is a rather strange concept to me. My view is that Ignatieff doesn't want DION anymore then anyone else, and like everyone else is terrified of Frankensteins monster making policy.

This whole thing is getting over-heated. Canadians are going to get a bad case of scandal fatigue. The main point is, Harper and his Conservatives have lost the confidence of the Canadian parliament and, as the polls will soon reveal, the Canadian people. They are also behaving in a manner completely unbecoming of government: spying, spinning, trying to over-run the media, and generally maintaining the same level of fierce partisanship that got Canada into this crisis in the first place.

Btw, besides Bob Fife at CTV, the media is not giving the Conservatives a hell of credit either. Here's the latest article from the Canadian Press.

i'm encouraged having read the transcript of the caucus conversation.  there's nothing in there that should scare any caring person.  Aboriginal concerns are named, helping people who are suffering in the economy, and a focus on a longer term coalition so that we don't in fact have to go through another election and possible Con majority in the shorter term.

Liberals who oppose the coalition, Ignatieff or whomever is getting cold feet, should sink if they back off from this.

Isn't it illegal to secretly tape a conversation that you're not participating in, without a warrant?