Killing happens everday George. The price the global south pays for the luxurious lifestyle of Western privilege and entitlement is in the millions of lives per day. Wars are fought and blood is spilled from Africa through the middle-east and Afghanistan on the way to Asia for us to live in grand style. Soon even greater numbers of lives will be lost as decide our jobs and economies take predenence over their lives and the planetary ecoolgy. Yes, I often find you are reduced to absurdities in pretending to hold on to civilized discourse while blood flows all around. Violence permeates our civilization and forms the foundation of the Western empire. What this debate is really about is the elephant in the room which is that our own lives, our own wealth and relative luxury is wholly dependent on the state and its institutions, public and private, that commit violence in the interests of maintaining are place in the pecking order.
It is telling, to me, that every single time the debate forms around individuals who break glass rather than state stormtroopers who break bones and bodies in defence of the state and its violent (not to mention corrupt) institutions.
Men and women who thought they had retired will soon confront the violence of having lost their retirement savings and to witness the pepertrators not only get away with it but be rewarded for it. But it is those men and women who lost everything who will be condemened and imprisoned if they do what the state will not - exact justice.