I will be divorced on July 2nd!

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Michelle
I will be divorced on July 2nd!

Just wanted to celebrate. :)  It's been a long time - I've been separated for years, and finally I will be free.  Free!

Maybe I'll buy a lottery ticket that day. :D

martin dufresne

Bravo, Michelle... Is this the promise of another on-line Babble party???

Michelle

Maybe!  I'll be wearing RED. :D

Unionist

Congratulations! At last!

Umm, Michelle... will you marry me?

[Please reply by PM. By 3 PM.]

ETA: Hold on, don't answer yet - I have to find that "polygamy" thread and edit out all my posts opposing it.

 

Michelle

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!

[running away]

I mean, um, gee Unionist, I'd love to get married again, but I'm, uh, washing my hair.  FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

:D

 

Unionist

Sigh. Well, at least she thought it over before answering.

remind remind's picture

Whoooot! Happy Freedom Day!

Michelle

Yeah, I found it amusing that it is two days before Independence Day. :D

martin dufresne
Michelle

P.S. I was wondering who would be the first person to propose to me in this thread if I started it... :D

HeywoodFloyd

Woo Hoo! Join the club. Mine came through on Dec 3, with the certificate issues 31 days later.

Is July 2 the day you get the certificate?

Michelle

That's the day it becomes final.  The order was apparently made and signed off by the judge on June 1st, and it becomes final 31 days later, on July 2nd.  I guess I'll get the certificate from my lawyer sometime after that since they're going to have a process server go to court and get it.

Happy happy happy happy happy...

Seriously, though, is it weird to feel this much joy?  When I found out by e-mail from my lawyer's clerk last night, I just about did cartwheels, and I was giddy for half the evening!  I kept singing "D-I-V-O-R-C-E".  Which actually doesn't fit the occasion perfectly, because in that song she's sad about the divorce, but I'm SO HAPPY about it. :D

Caissa

I think July 2 should be declared a moderation free day.Wink

Or maybe another online party would be good enough.

Congrats, Michelle.

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Seriously, though, is it weird to feel this much joy?

 

Well, one can feel joy when a toothache goes away, or when a nasty neighbour moves, or (I'm told by parents) when school starts up again in September, so really, I don't think it's that weird. Also, closure is always good. Everything that drags on and on becomes a chore of mental book-keeping. Now you can use that braintime for something else.

 

Anyway, I don't want to marry you, but I do have a fetish for really, really clean hair. Can we hang out? Maybe brush your hair and stuff?

Michelle

Ha!  Only if you help me dye it every six weeks too!

oldgoat

mazel tov

 

have one on me...

 

remind remind's picture

"Seriously, though, is it weird to feel this much joy?"

 

No, you are experiencing the sense of liberation, and once it is felt, one longs for it, in every sector of one's self that is compromised.

Maysie Maysie's picture

Happy D-day Michelle!

And I think the elation you're feeling is about closure, not that he's out of your life for good, which I know will never happen b/c of your little one, but that it's the end, the final end, of a connection that hasn't been a connection for years.

Congrats!

Michelle

Thanks!  And hey, thanks for the strongbow, oldgoat.  You sure know me!

HeywoodFloyd

Michelle wrote:

That's the day it becomes final.  The order was apparently made and signed off by the judge on June 1st, and it becomes final 31 days later, on July 2nd. 

So I have even greater news for you.....YOU'RE DIVORCED NOW!

However, either party has 31 days to appeal which is why you don't get the certificate until July 2nd.

 

Michelle

But it says that we can't get the certificate or remarry until July 2nd - so I assume that means the divorce isn't final and we're not actually divorced...?

HeywoodFloyd

Yea, that's just for the appeal period. However, for any other purposes, you are now single (tax filing etc). It's annoying I know, and that period can be waived by both parties when the papers are filed, but really.....you're single.

At least that is how my lawyer told it to me.

Michelle

Well, just to be safe, I'll wait on that lottery ticket. :)

remind remind's picture

Would your former spouse appeal Michelle? :bigeyes:

Michelle

No no!  He's as happy to get it as I am.

But you never know, though, if I win 40 million bucks... :D

Michelle

P.S. Heywood, I've been single for 8 years, as far as I'm concerned. :)

HeywoodFloyd

Michelle wrote:

P.S. Heywood, I've been single for 8 years, as far as I'm concerned. :)

Damn straight. That's the only way to look at it.

Refuge Refuge's picture

Well, if you are weird, so am I.  When I was divorced officially I couldn't stop smiling as the court official gave me the divorce decree.  I wanted to frame it except that it had my ex husbands name on it so I instead keep it in a special place in my home.

It was like a confirmation to me that I had done what I needed to do to end that part of my life and that I was a capable woman who could stand on her own two feet and I had made the right decision for myself.  I actually had a really great marriage so it was not like I was happy to be out of a bad situation but when I held that paper in my hand I knew that I had made the right decision for me, for my life and where it was headed.

Part of it was also I think because when I got married my marriage certificate was the first official document that made me feel like a grown up (I was married at 22), my college graduation was also another but both documents that made me feel like a grown up were both done when I was with my ex-husband, the college because of his love and support (both emotionally and financially) and the marriage certificate - cause you need two!  But this was the first document that made me feel like a grown up that was mine, it was not meant to strengthen a bond with another person but it was meant to strengthen my independence.

So from one girl who walked out of the court with a smile on her face (and I haven't stopped smiling yet for that decision) to another, Congratulations.

Tommy_Paine

I considered myself "divorced" on the day my ex actually moved out.  Of course, there's a little paper work to do between what was set in my head, and what was actually part of the real world.

So much so, I guess I never formally processed some final papers or whatever, and didn't find out untill Rebecca West and I went to City Hall to get a marriage licence.  Fortunately, I had all the proper papers with me, so we quickly walked the few blocks down to the Court House (did you know the foil wrapper in a roll of Life Saver's or Rolaids is enough to set off the metal detector there?  Paranoid bunch-- makes you wonder what they're up to being that suspicious) to get the requisite papers and pay the requisite fees.

Always, fees.  I think they spring up out of nothing when you have a critical mass of six or more lawyers within a city block.

Anyway, Michelle, get full value from your lawyer about all the "t's" and "i's" you have to cross.  Mine probably told me, but I probably didn't listen, or put it off until I forgot-- a skill I have developed into an artform in the last 20 years of my life or so.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Congratulations, Michelle!  I know it's been a long time coming and a piece of unfinished business for you - nothing wrong with feeling liberated by having it over and done with.

I felt a bit sad when my divorce became final, but it was only 6 weeks past the one-year separation anniversary, but I knew it was the way things should be and it was better to have it done early on, since we didn't maintain contact.  Fortunately, my ex paid all the fees so he could marry right away again.  I have to admit I was a little taken aback by being replaced so quickly!

remind remind's picture

Michelle wrote:
No no!  He's as happy to get it as I am.

But you never know, though, if I win 40 million bucks... :D

Interesting, I had never thought about what it would mean to someone if they won a lottery and were jsut "separated".

Tommy_Paine

Interesting, I had never thought about what it would mean to someone if they won a lottery and were jsut "separated".

 

The first thought anyone should have is to immediately get in doors so you don't get injured by platoons of parachuting lawyers.

Laughing

 

 

Michelle

Yup, if the finances aren't finalized in divorce yet, remind, it would be a total drag!  Can you say "spousal support forever"? :D

P.S. Thanks, Timebandit!  Come to think of it, I've been separated ever since I started babbling, way back in 2001!  So yeah, it's been a long time coming. :)

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Yes, I remember!  Nice to see things come full circle for you!

HeywoodFloyd

remind wrote:

Michelle wrote:
No no!  He's as happy to get it as I am.

But you never know, though, if I win 40 million bucks... :D

Interesting, I had never thought about what it would mean to someone if they won a lottery and were jsut "separated".

If there is a separation agreementi in place then one would be covered. Without it though.....ouch.

I know all of the 13 lotto winners who split the $49mm. One of them had her divorce come through right before mine did. I bet her ex is just KICKING himself now. And he deserves a good kick. So HA!

remind remind's picture

Spousal support at the least, or a division of the entire amount, I would think.

But what would you do if you did win one after the divorce?

All this makes me think about Jon and Kate plus eight and how they are separating. :D

Refuge Refuge's picture

Timebandit wrote:

I felt a bit sad when my divorce became final, but it was only 6 weeks past the one-year separation anniversary, but I knew it was the way things should be and it was better to have it done early on, since we didn't maintain contact.  Fortunately, my ex paid all the fees so he could marry right away again.  I have to admit I was a little taken aback by being replaced so quickly!

Yeah, me too.  We actually had to put a continuance in because we had only been seperated for 11 months, and a few days when it came up in court.  My ex got remarryed a few months after it became final.  I just took it as I was such a faboulous wife he couldn't imagine having to go it alone.  But I did get drunk on his wedding day Laughing (far far away from his wedding, though).

rural - Francesca rural - Francesca's picture

AWESOMENESS!!!!

 

It's a wonderful happy dance feeling bonus!

remind remind's picture

HeywoodFloyd wrote:
I know all of the 13 lotto winners who split the $49mm.

Now why does that not surprise me!!!!!

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Refuge wrote:

Timebandit wrote:

I felt a bit sad when my divorce became final, but it was only 6 weeks past the one-year separation anniversary, but I knew it was the way things should be and it was better to have it done early on, since we didn't maintain contact.  Fortunately, my ex paid all the fees so he could marry right away again.  I have to admit I was a little taken aback by being replaced so quickly!

Yeah, me too.  We actually had to put a continuance in because we had only been seperated for 11 months, and a few days when it came up in court.  My ex got remarryed a few months after it became final.  I just took it as I was such a faboulous wife he couldn't imagine having to go it alone.  But I did get drunk on his wedding day Laughing (far far away from his wedding, though).

It's a weird headspace to be in, isn't it?  When I found out he was getting married right away, I wondered why he fussed so goddam much over me leaving.   

I'm not sure why I was sad, exactly - maybe that the marriage was never really about me, much.  Leaves a girl feeling melancholy and underappreciated.

Wilf Day

Michelle wrote:
finally I will be free.  Free!

An entirely normal and very common reaction.

Although I never noticed your invisible chains, which you kept well-hidden.  Wink 

Michelle wrote:
But it says that we can't get the certificate or remarry until July 2nd - so I assume that means the divorce isn't final and we're not actually divorced...?

No, it means you can't get a marriage licence to marry Oldgoat until July 2.

Tommy_Paine wrote:
I considered myself "divorced" on the day my ex actually moved out. Of course, there's a little paper work to do between what was set in my head, and what was actually part of the real world.

No, the paper work is NOT the real world. The real world is in your head. Believe it.  Cool 

 

remind wrote:
Michelle wrote:
No no! He's as happy to get it as I am. But you never know, though, if I win 40 million bucks... :D

Interesting, I had never thought about what it would mean to someone if they won a lottery and were just "separated".

In Ontario, nothing. Equalization of net family property is calculated on assets and debts on the date of separation.

Michelle

I think oldgoat's lovely wife might have a problem with those plans you're making for us, Wilf. :D

It's interesting, the emotions that go with separation and divorce even when you're happy to be apart, or even instigated it.  Those feelings of loss and unhappiness were very short-lived for me, and I feel none of that anymore now - I just feel relief and happiness.  Even though, as Wilf says, nothing has really changed.  But it just feels like the end of a very, very long era in my life.

Refuge Refuge's picture

Timebandit wrote:

I'm not sure why I was sad, exactly - maybe that the marriage was never really about me, much.  Leaves a girl feeling melancholy and underappreciated.

Yay, that's a good way to put it. It sure gave my ego a check to realize that it didn't seem to matter to him who was sleeping beside him with a ring as long as someone was. But I also had that wisdom kick in to me which told me that life is never so cut and dry as that. So if I was going to make it so cut and dry I figured I would do it in my favour and say it was because I was so fabulous he couldn't stand the thought of being without a wife.

My ex husband had a lot of problems and he couldn't deal with them alone. I think after 7 years that is the thing that makes me saddest of all.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

I hear you Refuge.

Funny story - I heard from my ex this past spring, 19 years after we split.  He kept signing a guest book on a site I have an account on.  When I finally asked him what he wanted, I got this long, ever-so-noble message about how he still wondered and cared about me and what I was up to and how he's finally come to see our split differently, yadda yadda.  It 's still all about him 20 years on - I didn't even have to contribute to the conversation.  Made the correct choice on that one, I did.  Laughing

Refuge Refuge's picture

From the sounds of it I feel sorry for his current wife!

Maysie Maysie's picture

Wilf Day wrote:
 Although I never noticed your invisible chains, which you kept well-hidden.

Um, this thread is about Michelle's divorce. What she does in the privacy of her own home is nobody's business.

Laughing Laughing Laughing

I'd like to take this opportunity to shill for one of my favourite causes: Don't get married, people!! Shack up!! 

 

Cueball Cueball's picture

I got married in December. I never thought I would. Never wanted too. Now I am.

Caissa

I thought I would remain unmarried and now 13 years later...

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

No, Maysie, it's not marriage in general that's bad, just marriage to the wrong person.

I've been married to the love of my life for 11 years now.  I sometimes hear it said that marriage is hard work, but I have yet to feel that way in this one.  We even work together, so by my calculation we've spent more time in each other's company than most couples do by the 30 year mark.

G. Muffin

Hey, Michelle, you've inspired me to get my ass in gear.  I'm a few days away from one year post-separation.  It's time to deal with financial matters and move on.  My lawyer informed me that there's no reason to get divorced unless I plan to remarry.  I couldn't disagree more.  There's every reason to get divorced. 

Michelle

Yeah, I wasn't in a big rush to get the divorce either, that's why it's been so long.  I haven't been in court for eight years or anything!  (Although it's been two, and that's long enough.)  Basically, neither of us had enough money to get the divorce before, and I didn't really care anyhow since I considered myself single, and I have no desire to ever get married again.  But now that the divorce is done, I am actually surprised at how good it feels.

Good luck with that, G. Pie!  And yeah, I guess your lawyer is right when it comes to legal issues, but when it comes to emotional severance, I think it's a good idea.  However, perhaps your lawyer was telling you not to bother financially unless he wants it, and then let him pay for it if he wants it that badly.

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