Too much rain a 'disaster' for some Sask. farmers

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As seeding is delayed, farmers are left with fewer options for what to plant and face a greater risk of late-developing crops.

A declaration of an agricultural disaster does not trigger any formal actions by government. However, it does signal the gravity of the situation in the eyes of local authorities.

According to the provincial government, about 70 per cent of Saskatchewan's 44,000 farmers have completed their seeding work for 2010. That is well short of the five-year average of 96 per cent by this time of year.

 

 

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2010/06/10/sk-wet-farms-10610.html#ixzz0rjJXXU6b

 

I heard yesterday that around Kelvington they've put in only about a quarter of the crop, and some farmers haven't sown anything yet.

 

Just north of there, in the RM of Spalding, the story sounds the same:

 

 

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The RM of Spalding also filed for PDAP funding Monday, said Reeve Eugene Eggerman, as excess spring moisture has affected homes, gravel roads and farmers.

A dozen residents so far have filed claims of water damage, with more expected to follow after residents find out about the PDAP funding.

The funding would also help the RM, which is located 170 km east of Saskatoon, cope with additional road costs.

"Well, because of the roads we're having to do extra gravel. The roads we gravelled this spring we've had to do re-gravelling on because it looks like nothing was done, and graders are out there every day, even on weekends, trying to keep the roads good," he said.

Eggerman, a farmer himself, said ground saturation has affected the amount of seeding in the area.

"I seed 9,000 acres in a normal year and my boys and myself seeded 1,500 acres this year," he said.

He considers himself well off compared to his neighbours.

"I have two neighbours that got zero seeding done."

The lack of crop in the ground has led to a bleak financial outlook for farmers.

"The cash flow is a disaster, let me tell you," Eggerman said. He estimates his own net income will drop 60 to 70 per cent this year, even after crop insurance payouts.

 

 

Disaster program flooded by requests

 

 

6079_Smith_W

Yeah, I sure didn't see this coming with the snow cover we had  this winter. 

I suppose it's good in the long run, but not much consolation for farmers who are on the edge right now. I'm just glad I'm on the high side of the river. And I've never actually seen real mosquitoes in this province before this year - not like Winnipeg, anyway.

Did you see that horrible-looking sludge that came down the river on the weekend? Apparently that was from them opening the Gardiner Dam.

 

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

I have a friend who had less than a third of his land seeded on Saturday.  I don't expect he's doing much better this week. 

al-Qa'bong

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Did you see that horrible-looking sludge that came down the river on the weekend? Apparently that was from them opening the Gardiner Dam.

 

Yeah, I saw that, but didn't know what it was.

 

I haven't been out of town since before seeding should have started, so don't know how things have been progressing around here.

al-Qa'bong

Check out the photo of the main drag in Yorkton:

 

Flood emergency declared in Yorkton, Sask.

 

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Record-setting amounts of rain have been dumped on Saskatchewan in recent weeks. In Saskatoon, city council passed an emergency resolution Friday morning asking the province for disaster relief following flooding earlier in the week.

The town of Maple Creek in the southwest part of the province declared itself a disaster zone last month after more than 100 millimetres of rain fell in 48 hours.

 

We had a huge rainfall Tuesday night, and it poured again this afternoon. Lots of people were out trying to clean storm drains in flooded streets.

 

6079_Smith_W

Did you hear about the sewer cover that shot up and damaged the bottom of a bus here in Saskatoon? My inlaws told me about it, but I haven't seen it in the news yet.

I did see water shooting up about two feet through the holes in one of the sewer covers on Eastlake at the height of the storm today.

Fortunately our basement is still dry.

 

al-Qa'bong

I didn't hear about exploding manhole covers, but I did see part of Early Drive, near Tucker Crescent, under water.  Kids were in swimsuits using the street as a paddling pool.

al-Qa'bong

We had a drizzlin' downpour all day today...

al-Qa'bong

It rained again today.

remind remind's picture

too hot here forests will burn, as we watch all the clouds  race past to dump on youout there

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Need some rain out here in Ontario too.

jas

Why is the word disaster in quotation marks in the thread title? Is this not a disaster?

And anyway, welcome to what many Manitoba farmers have been suffering for the last three years.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Is this a cyclical thing?  Or a non-predictable episode?

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

I'm not sure.  We haven't seen these levels of rain in Saskatchewan for decades, though, if at all.  I think this year there were records set...  But we've only been keeping records for around a hundred years or so.

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Agriculture ministers are meeting right now in Saskatoon: http://www.discovermoosejaw.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&i...

al-Qa'bong

jas wrote:

Why is the word disaster in quotation marks in the thread title?

Write a sternly-worded letter of complaint to the CBC; it's their title.

Speaking of the CBC, I heard on the local news that half the cropland in Saskatchewan is not seeded because of the wet weather.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Not surprising.

My BIL splits his time between the family farm in Willowbunch and Montreal - this year he managed to get most of the seeding done, but only with the little old tractor they have.  Most of the big machines would just sink, but it was light enough not to get mired, apparently.

writer writer's picture

That's really interesting, Timebandit.

6079_Smith_W

@ Timebandit

Speaking of Willow Bunch, I had heard that Old Wives Lake was in danger of drying up again (as it has in the past). I guess that at least is not a worry this year.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

I doubt it!  We've got swamps all over this year!

We're thinking about visiting the old farm at Davidson this weekend, but we'll have to call the cousins first and find out if the road is passable.  If it's too wet, I'm not sure the minivan will make it.

6079_Smith_W

That is usually where all the weather happens (Davidson). I seem to remember them getting flooding in that area last year or the year before, which weren't even that wet.

remind remind's picture

wow...I am so stunned; the back roads around Davidson impassable??

 

Re Willow Bunch; got a  interesting book on the Willow Bunch giant.

6079_Smith_W

So now there is a $450M relief deal ($360M of it coming to Saskatchewan) . How much do you want to bet there will be some version of giant conservative logo-emblazoned cheques handed out at town fairs this summer?

I don't know if people outside Saskatchewan (or even some residents) are aware that there probably wouldn't be as many Conservative seats here if we had any actual urban ridings. As it is both major cities are gerrymandered into pie-shaped ridings that are half-rural. My Saskatoon riding actually borders on a Regina riding, even though that city is 240 km away. And over half the population in this province is now urban.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstrap_(electoral_district)

I haven't checked, but if things are bad here I am wondering how bad it must be for farmers east of Winnipeg. When I lived there I never saw a year (even a dry year) when there was not flooding and washed-out roads.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

remind wrote:

wow...I am so stunned; the back roads around Davidson impassable??

 

Re Willow Bunch; got a  interesting book on the Willow Bunch giant.

It's not a regular road -- It's a little dirt road off the grid, with a low spot.  If it's as wet as spring thaw, there are a couple of mushy spots you could get hung up in, although a half-ton would probably have little trouble.  However, we've got a minivan and an elderly Volvo wagon...  I won't risk it if it's too wet.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

6079_Smith_W wrote:

So now there is a $450M relief deal ($360M of it coming to Saskatchewan) . How much do you want to bet there will be some version of giant conservative logo-emblazoned cheques handed out at town fairs this summer?

I don't know if people outside Saskatchewan (or even some residents) are aware that there probably wouldn't be as many Conservative seats here if we had any actual urban ridings. As it is both major cities are gerrymandered into pie-shaped ridings that are half-rural. My Saskatoon riding actually borders on a Regina riding, even though that city is 240 km away. And over half the population in this province is now urban.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstrap_(electoral_district)

I haven't checked, but if things are bad here I am wondering how bad it must be for farmers east of Winnipeg. When I lived there I never saw a year (even a dry year) when there was not flooding and washed-out roads.

It's a travesty, really.  But don't say that outside city limits - you'll get yourself tarred, feathered and run out on a rail.

skdadl

Are there any babblers here from Medicine Hat (not that far from Maple Creek, and part of the same desert triangle)? I remember huge floods there in the 1950s, especially on the flatlands at the bottom of the reverse-S-curve the river takes around the city.

jas

6079_Smith_W wrote:

I don't know if people outside Saskatchewan (or even some residents) are aware that there probably wouldn't be as many Conservative seats here if we had any actual urban ridings. As it is both major cities are gerrymandered into pie-shaped ridings that are half-rural. My Saskatoon riding actually borders on a Regina riding, even though that city is 240 km away. And over half the population in this province is now urban.

Didn't know this, Smith. That would be incredibly frustrating. But wouldn't the last NDP government have tried to rectify this? Or is it considered a rectification of a past imbalance?

6079_Smith_W

@ jas

No, these are federal ridings, not provincial constituencies.

ghoris

I thought in the last go-around the federal electoral boundaries commission recommended the creation of 5 mostly 'urban' seats in Regina and Saskatoon (Pasqua, Wascana, Idlewyld, Broadway and Meewasin), but that idea was quashed by resistance from (among others) then-NDP MP Dick Proctor. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

But getting back to the thread topic (and at the risk of sounding insensitive to the current plight of some farmers), I always find it more than a bit ironic that farmers in Western Canada, who overwhelmingly vote Conservative/Saskatchewan Party (you know, the parties of small government, rugged individualism and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps), are among the first to run screaming to the government with their hands out for assistance at the first sign of adversity.

6079_Smith_W

@ ghoris

Well, I'm not a farmer, so I scratch my head at that too. It doesn't make any more sense that many of these farmers who are strong supporters of the wheat board would vote for the party which has attacked their organization and its democratic foundation (by limiting voting privileges to large operations). On the other hand, I don't support everything done by the party I usually vote for, but I would spoil my ballot rather than vote for the other ones.

While it is assumed that rural people are staunch individualists there is a much stronger tradition of helping one's neighbour when in need. What has happened here is a disaster (more rain last night). It is not a matter of convenient principles, but of some people losing their livelihood and their homes. I think the only people who see a long-term advantage in this are the real heartless ones - big agribusiness.

 

(edit) ...and land speculators.

al-Qa'bong

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Two men are missing after a pickup truck was swept off a bridge by flood water in east-central Saskatchewan on Sunday.

A third man, who escaped from the vehicle, has been arrested, RCMP said.

The incident happened just before 8:30 p.m. CST, about five kilometres northwest of the town of Springside, 200 kilometres northeast of Regina, police said.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2010/07/12/sk-river-accident.html#ixzz0tW1jFpR4

Springside's just northwest of Yorkton about ten miles. I also heard that Good Spirit Lake, which is a bit north of there, is overflowing its shores. I don't know if that's such a bad thing. Good Spirit is just like a giant, sandy wading pool.

al-Qa'bong

Missing Sask. man pulled from river

 

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The body of an 84-year-old man from Yorkton, Sask. was recovered from the Whitesand River Saturday afternoon, RCMP said.

The discovery of the man's body capped a nearly-week-long recovery effort by police and rescue workers after a pickup truck went into the river near the town of Springside on July 11.

6079_Smith_W

They kept calling that a bridge accident. From the description it sound more like a ford crossing, which typically has a culvert under it, but during flood times is designed to be completely under water and impassible.

 

al-Qa'bong

Timebandit wrote:
We're thinking about visiting the old farm at Davidson this weekend...

Davidson, eh?  I heard the roof blew off their hotel a few years ago.  Back in 1976 or so our hockey team stayed in the Davidson hotel when we played Hawarden in the provincials.  We were a wee bit unruly (but not quite in the league of Keith Moon.  Come to think of it, "Mama's Squeezebox" was on the radio all the time around then) that night.  I like to think we weakened the structure of the building, thus contributing to the later damage.

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Could be, Al Q....

The wind is pretty fierce out there, regardless.  We spent some time shooting not far from Davidson, the winds never stop, they just change direction.

George Victor

CBC news has reported that they are expecting record or near-record levels on the Red River and its tributaries this spring. Any changes in sight on that prediction? (And how is the snow situation in Sask.?

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

I was talking to a couple of Winnipeggers earlier in the week, and they're still anticipating a serious flood risk this spring.

As of the end of January, we'd had record snowfall in the south of the province (SK, that is) up to that date - so if the rest of the winter continues with above average or even average snowfall, we will break the record.

al-Qa'bong

How about those floods?

On the one hand, it's unfortunate that that area is flooding.

 

On the other hand, it's neat to hear that the region where I'm from ( the old homestead wasn't far from Shellmouth Dam and St. Lazare - about a mile west of us was the divide between the slope towards the Assiniboine and the slope towards the Qu'appelle) is finally making the news 

Sandy Dillon

Call in God!! In your case that would be Brad Wall!!!