How Ford won the campaign on the ground, and not in the media

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Fri, 2010-11-05 14:42

Stockholm

If Pantalone was an absolutely totally pure 100% supporter of labour in 100% of cases without exception - as some have suggested - the only honourable thing for him to have done was to denounce David Miller, resign as Deputy Mayor, join the picket line and then run for mayor having distanced himself from Miller on a totally pro-labour platform. He might have had more than 12% of the vote that way.

Instead he backed the city's negoatiating strategy - just like he supported the police conduct during the G20 riots.

Fri, 2010-11-05 14:53

#103

A political

Cueball and Stockhom-this is getting tedious.

Fri, 2010-11-05 15:00

#104

Stockholm

You're right - its water under the bridge if ever there was such a thing.

Fri, 2010-11-05 15:04

#105

remind

Yep, especially when it was the "Holmes" factor that got him elected.... ;)

Fri, 2010-11-05 16:54

#106

Stargazer

I disagree remind (for the people I spoke with anyways). There exact words about Ford was that he looked like a creepy child toucher (not that he was one, but that he looked like one). And he does look creepy.

Fri, 2010-11-05 16:54

#107

Stargazer

I disagree remind (for the people I spoke with anyways). Their exact words about Ford was that he looked like a creepy child toucher (not that he was one, but that he looked like one). And he does look creepy.

Fri, 2010-11-05 17:05

#108

Cueball

Stockholm wrote:

If Pantalone was an absolutely totally pure 100% supporter of labour in 100% of cases without exception - as some have suggested - the only honourable thing for him to have done was to denounce David Miller, resign as Deputy Mayor, join the picket line and then run for mayor having distanced himself from Miller on a totally pro-labour platform. He might have had more than 12% of the vote that way.

Instead he backed the city's negotiating strategy - just like he supported the police conduct during the G20 riots.

Again, just a bunch of straw men. Who are these "some" who suggested that Pantalone, or anyone here, saying that he is a "100% supporter of labour in 100% of all cases without exception". Did he say that? No.

What he said is that he would have intervened in the negotiation process earlier than Miller did. Miller refused to intervene in the negotiating process for the entire period of negotiation, before the strike, and into the strike for three weeks. Pantalone expressed variance with Miller on a variety of issues throughout the campaign, this being just one of them. The more obvious one being elimination of the car registration tax, which was a regressive tax, as he pointed out.

Miller's strategy was a failed one. Obviously, the city probably could have gotten a very simillar result, had Miller bothered to intervene, and negotiate toward the proposal that was finally agreed to, without all the silliness of the strike. Pantalone seems to agree.

Fri, 2010-11-05 17:21

#109

Stockholm

When i look at Ford, he reminds me more of a big fat uncooked breakfast sausage. I see that his campaign manager is getting into trouble with his big mouth again. Today, he bragged about how he used dirty tricks and fake identities to make sure john Tory didn't get back in the race at the end of August. Lots of campaigns do this sort of thing - but bragging about it is pretty self-destructive and indiscreet. If this guy is going to be a key figure in the Ford administration - I'm even more confident that this regime will be a flop.

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/886530--did-ford-campaign-s-tricks-k...

Fri, 2010-11-05 17:33

#110

Cueball

Stockholm wrote:

When i look at Ford, he reminds me more of a big fat uncooked breakfast sausage.

Maybe you should post your fatphobic trolling on free dominion or something, if that is still in business that is. As if red-baiting, and anti-union blather isn't enough.

Fri, 2010-11-05 17:37

#111

Doug

I'm surprised all this didn't come out before the election, Ford would have won by even more:

With less than one month left until current city councillors wind up their terms, the Toronto Sun has published a list of interesting ways some spent taxpayer money through their office budgets.

The list includes $400 for a permit for a fetish party in a city-owned park, $320 for a SpongeBob SquarePants inflatable party bouncer and about $3,000 for more French lessons for Adam Giambrone.

Giambrone charged taxpayers a total of $10,898 for French lessons over his four-year term.

Fri, 2010-11-05 18:38

#112

Maysie