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Waterloo, Ontario votes out fluoridation
Mon, 2010-11-08 14:23
#1
Waterloo, Ontario votes out fluoridation
Mon, 2010-11-08 12:59
#2
Mon, 2010-11-08 13:01
#3
Fluoridation, not flouridation.
Mon, 2010-11-08 13:48
#4
I imagine the dentists of Waterloo are rejoicing.
Mon, 2010-11-08 14:20
#5
Maybe god will interceed and make the cavities all go away.
Given a choice between belief and science, belief wins every time.
Mon, 2010-11-08 14:22
#6
Snert
Who cares about fluoride?
I wanna know what Commie keeps adulterating my table salt with Iodine?
Did you know that if you eat as little as 20 grams per day -- less than a small cookie -- it will KILL YOU?
Sure, sure, we've all heard the scaremongering about so-called "goiter", but for how long are we going to believe such tomfoolery just because corrupt Western medicine, hand in hand with Big Pharma, keeps shovelling it at us???
IODINE OUT OF MY SALT!!!!
Mon, 2010-11-08 14:31
#7
Catchfire
Spelling error fixed in OP!
Mon, 2010-11-08 14:56
#8
Alas, the rational people of Ontario have met their Waterloo.
Mon, 2010-11-08 14:59
#9
Question this invites: should matters of public health be decided based on referenda?
Mon, 2010-11-08 15:01
#10
I vote no!
Mon, 2010-11-08 18:33
#11
radiorahim
Quick the recall code!!!! POE POE POE POE POE POE!!!!!!!
Tue, 2010-11-09 00:43
#12
You beat me to the Strangelove joke.
Tue, 2010-11-09 15:21
#13
I imagine the dentists of Waterloo are rejoicing.
Nope, they ran full-page ads showing that science, universally, supports the addition of fluoride. ...and how badly the children will fare. Particularly those whose parents have difficulty buying the best food...and fluoride toothpaste.
And the difference in balloting was less than 1 per cent. A victory, nevertheless,for the Great Unread.
Wed, 2010-11-10 13:30
#14
What I find concerning is how much anti-fluoridation stuff there is on the Internet. Most of it is very sensationalist, but there are the occasional articles that have the veneer of scientific legitimacy. Pro-fluoride scientific articles are usually blocked off because they're in scientific journals, etc.
Wed, 2010-11-10 14:00
#15
Wed, 2010-11-10 15:25
#16
What I find concerning is how much anti-fluoridation stuff there is on the Internet. Most of it is very sensationalist, but there are the occasional articles that have the veneer of scientific legitimacy. Pro-fluoride scientific articles are usually blocked off because they're in scientific journals, etc.
Yes, the ITT world gives a voice to all. Really disconcerting is the degree to which it is readily taken up. Suspicion rules. Quite Medieval village-like, really.
Wed, 2010-11-10 19:13
#17
There was a program years ago, I think on the CBC, about this subject. It was mentioned that Fluoride only strengthens teeth when it's in contact with the tooth surface. It does not do the teeth any good if ingested and in fact has side effects. Hence, it's great when in toothpaste. But one has to gargle drinking water prior to swallowing to get any benefit from the tiny amounts of Fluoride in it.
Wed, 2010-11-10 22:52
#18
"Should the Region of Waterloo fluoridate your municipal water?
Yes or No."
YES -- 13,216 -- 49.72%
NO -- 13,363 -- 50.28%
Wed, 2010-11-10 23:17
#19
so no one in the video clip and only one person here can say one (non-dismissive) word explaining why so many people would vote to remove fluoridation?
is it really healthy to ingest fluoride? are there studies saying it is safe? i have heard from health professionals that it is harmful (but i guess they "don't know science")
like cruisin turtle relates, it doesn't actually help your teeth to drink the stuff
Thu, 2010-11-11 09:24
#20
I just wish that I could reproduce the full-page ads with the very, very long lists of supporting scientific agencies, f.
One can always ferret out the cranks and deniers.
quote: "like cruisin turtle relates, it doesn't actually help your teeth to drink the stuff" And yet a comparison of teeth of Waterloo residents (where water has been fluoridated) with Kitchener (the abutting community) shows Waterloo children have been the winners.
Try to use the science, not phases of the moon, in your explanation of this.
Thu, 2010-11-11 09:30
#21
Snert
so no one in the video clip and only one person here can say one (non-dismissive) word explaining why so many people would vote to remove fluoridation?
Probably for much the same reason that so many people don't believe we're changing the climate. Heck, there's way, way more of those people, so they must be way, way more right... yes? I mean, we're VOTING on science now, aren't we?
Thu, 2010-11-11 10:00
#22
Is it so hard to understand why people might not want to have synthetic chemicals administerd to their bodies involuntarily? Can a doctor administer a drug to me without my permission?
As for scientific proof, industry can line up scientists to endorse the safety of any drug they want to push on the public. Unlike drugs, however, there's no way to catch the side-effects of fluoridation, since it's administered to the whole population without any medical supervision.
Incidentally, can anyone point me to the study where they observed the effects on fish and wildlife of pumping fluoridated water into lakes and streams for 100 years?
Thu, 2010-11-11 10:47
#23
Is it so hard to understand why people might not want to have synthetic chemicals administerd to their bodies involuntarily? Can a doctor administer a drug to me without my permission?
As for scientific proof, industry can line up scientists to endorse the safety of any drug they want to push on the public. Unlike drugs, however, there's no way to catch the side-effects of fluoridation, since it's administered to the whole population without any medical supervision.
Incidentally, can anyone point me to the study where they observed the effects on fish and wildlife of pumping fluoridated water into lakes and streams for 100 years?
The NATURAL fluoride level in some wells in the Ottawa Valley years ago, stained some folks teeth very badly. Otherwise, those people were not subject to a higher rate of anything.
As for the fluoridated water in the Grand River, downstream of the sewage lagoons... The bass are more numerous than in the days before the concern for floating stool caused folks to demand treatment of the sewage. Brantford residents, drinking water from the Grand, downstream, were thankful.