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"Another Québec is possible!" - workers and students unite against the right
Sat, 2010-11-06 23:46
#1
"Another Québec is possible!" - workers and students unite against the right
Sat, 2010-11-06 23:53
#2
All the major (usually rival) trade union federations in Québec - FTQ, CSN, CSD, and CSQ - have joined forces with various large student federations (including FEUQ - university students, and FECQ - junior college students) to form the "Alliance Sociale", united around a common declaration. The full text can be found on the member websites. [url=http://ruefrontenac.com/nouvelles-generales/politiqueprovinciale/29857-a... Frontenac[/url] has reproduced it. I'll look around for an English version...
I hope this development is as tremendous as it can and should be!
Sun, 2010-11-07 00:27
#3
laine lowe
This is really good news and I hope other provinces take note:
Différents groupes progressistes ont décidé d’unir leurs voix et leurs actions afin de démontrer qu’en matière de finances publiques et de développement économique, un autre Québec est possible.Depuis plusieurs années, nous assistons au Québec à l’expression d’une pensée dominante qui répète inlassablement des mantras prônant le désengagement de l’État, la privatisation des services publics, le laisser-faire économique et le tout au marché. Et ce phénomène a pris de l’ampleur à la faveur de la pire crise financière et économique mondiale des 80 dernières années.
They nailed this - the mantras of less government, privatization of public services, and market driven economic goals.
Sun, 2010-11-07 11:37
#4
Catchfire
God I miss Québec. The two most successful large-scale demonstrations I've ever been a part of--the Iraq war (although it didn't feel successful at the time) and the last student strike--were in Québec. And, of course, my first: the 2001 Summit of the Americas. Bon courage, comme d'habitude, Québec.
I hate posting Québec topics in something called "Central Canada"...
You're right, Unionist. We should change this. There are a lot of forum headings which don't make a lot of sense.
Sun, 2010-11-07 12:58
#5
I was there too (2001)! - arguing (unsuccessfully) with the heads of the FTQ contingent that our tens of thousands should be marching toward the fence, instead of that BS cowardly route around the least-populated outskirts of Québec that warmed the hearts of the cops.
End of thread drift...
Mon, 2010-11-08 15:46
#6
God I miss Québec. The two most successful large-scale demonstrations I've ever been a part of--the Iraq war (although it didn't feel successful at the time) and the last student strike--were in Québec. And, of course, my first: the 2001 Summit of the Americas. Bon courage, comme d'habitude, Québec.
I hate posting Québec topics in something called "Central Canada"...You're right, Unionist. We should change this. There are a lot of forum headings which don't make a lot of sense.
The geographic categories suck. Seems to me the Prairies go right up to the foothills and not many people in Alberta live between the foothills and the summit of the Rockies. So change Western to BC and have BC and the Prairies or BC/Alt and Sask/Man. Ontario and Quebec instead of Central Canada makes a lot of sense.
Mon, 2010-11-08 16:09
#7
alan smithee
Like I pointed out in a previous thread.
There was a lot of news about Francois Legault and Joseph Fecal (ex-PQ) starting a 'new' centre-right party...In an impromptu poll,this 'new' party had a 30% popularity number.
Needless to say,it created a buzz in the local media (big surprise)
Not long after there was a 'huge' gathering of conservative shit stains (450 people) pegged as the 'Tea Party North'
When I read last week that the unions (some of the most powerful unions in North America) were joining forces for a new left party,I was elated.
Some of the union heads were publicly emphasizing the TRUTH...About how years of right wing policies were killing the middle class,hence these policies have been proven to be a failure.
With talk of Gilles Duceppe taking the reigns of the PQ,it'd be safe to predict that Duceppe would easily win a majority.
A Duceppe led PQ would be at the centre of the political spectrum.
BUT,if this so called 'Tea Party North' were to organize a party ready for the next election and a united left party was to emerge (hard to say if this united left party would be running as the Quebec Solidaire brand),the 2013 Quebec elections would pit the left vs the right.
What would this mean for Quebec?....A Harpercon National Assembly,a Socialist National Assembly or a Duceppe led PQ centrist National Assembly.
2013 will be very interesting and possibly exciting...And whatever ends up happening in the next provincial election will surely influence politics in the ROC.
But I,personally,am ECSTATIC that there is a real left wing mobilisation happening here in Quebec...Clearly the cretins of the right are not going to have an easy ride in La Belle Province.
Mon, 2010-11-08 18:05
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When I read last week that the unions (some of the most powerful unions in North America) were joining forces for a new left party,I was elated.
Where did you read that?
Mon, 2010-11-08 18:33
#9
alan smithee
When I read last week that the unions (some of the most powerful unions in North America) were joining forces for a new left party,I was elated.
Where did you read that?
Where did I read what? I'm not sure where you are going with that question.
The fact that most of Quebec's major unions are the strongest in North America or the fact that unions were joining forces for a new left wing party?
As for the unions joining forces,that's the whole topic of this thread and as for the strength of Quebec unions,that's just a fact.
Or are you looking to bait an arguement over nothing?
Mon, 2010-11-08 18:39
#10
alan smithee
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Mon, 2010-11-08 20:58
#11
All right, Alan, let's take it nice and polite.
Where did you read that the unions were joining forces for a [b]NEW PARTY[/b]???
The "Alliance sociale" is not a party.
There is no way the FTQ or any of these other union centrals would be agitating for a new party right now, let alone announcing one.
It's a coalition.
A grouping.
A movement.
An alliance.
It's not a party.
That's why I asked you where you had read that.
I guess the answer is: nowhere.
Mon, 2010-11-08 21:43
#12
alan smithee
All right, Alan, let's take it nice and polite.
Where did you read that the unions were joining forces for a [b]NEW PARTY[/b]???
The "Alliance sociale" is not a party.
There is no way the FTQ or any of these other union centrals would be agitating for a new party right now, let alone announcing one.
It's a coalition.
A grouping.
A movement.
An alliance.
It's not a party.
That's why I asked you where you had read that.
I guess the answer is: nowhere.
And what does a coalition mean?...What's an alliance's purpose?...Where do you expect this to go?
I guess,according to you,it's just a bunch of hot air that will lead nowhere.
If that's the case,what are you celebrating?
Mon, 2010-11-08 21:57
#13
Look Alan, you made a mistake - you misread the article - there is and will be no new party here - but you are genuinely hailing this alliance of workers across rival union lines and students. So that means we're on the same side. We're enthusiastic about the same development and its potential. That's good enough for me. I have no desire to have a fight with you.
Mon, 2010-11-08 22:04
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[url=http://ruefrontenac.com/nouvelles-generales/education/29906-denonciation... coalition demands an end to tuition fee increases[/url]
Mon, 2010-11-08 22:13
#15
alan smithee
Look Alan, you made a mistake - you misread the article - there is and will be no new party here - but you are genuinely hailing this alliance of workers across rival union lines and students. So that means we're on the same side. We're enthusiastic about the same development and its potential. That's good enough for me. I have no desire to have a fight with you.
Fair enough,Unionist.
I think I've been overly enthusiastic simply because a real social democratic movement MAY be in the works....I can't remember the last time a group like the unions have explicitly underlined a desire to move the political spectrum to the left.
I'm sure I haven't heard any of the kind since the 1980's.
My bad---I misread the article and like you,I have no desire to fight...Especially against someone on the same team.
Cheers.