Stanley Cup 2011 2: Best of Three

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Stanley Cup 2011 2: Best of Three

Puck drops at 5pm.

Luongo to start, Tim Thomas quits mid-series to pursue career as jazz pianist.

From the sexist tripe dept.: Women's new-found love for the Canucks may be a little offside

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Caissa

Puck drops at 9 p.m.Frown

Can we put Chara on Bass?

Fidel

Nucks in 7 in second OT.

al-Qa'bong

I have a feeling that the Cnøcks are going to give 'er tonight and that Bongoluongo will have a shutout.

Fidel

al-Qa'bong wrote:

I have a feeling that the Cnøcks are going to give 'er tonight and that Bongoluongo will have a shutout.

I thought it'd be another blowout for one team or the other. But 1-0 is as good as 8-1.

Nucks are within 1.

West Coast Greeny

Good call al-Q.

Jacob Richter

Tim Thomas is still a lock for the Conn Smythe.

Fidel

That's twice now that Luongo's shut out the Bruins. He's a huge factor in this series for the Nucks. And the previously porous Vancouver D held them to 31 shots this time. That's a little more like it. 

GO NUCKS GO!

al-Qa'bong

Next we'll hear Mike Milbury talk about the "Soccerfication" of hockey.

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Went to a Stanley Cup final game here on Friday night and a soccer game broke out.

That's not a good thing.

Approximately one year after Mexico and South Africa were kicking off World Cup 2010 at state-of-the-art Soccer City in Johannesburg, the Boston Bruins and Vancouver Canucks tangled in Game 5 in front of the usual raucous throng in Vancouver.

For those of us sitting in the Rogers Arena press box fortunate enough to have been in South Africa 12 months ago, watching some of the humiliating theatrics being turned in down below led to a sad conclusion.

Indeed, it was as if we were seeing the World Cup on ice.

 

 

It's the Stanley Cup, not the World Cup

bekayne

al-Qa'bong wrote:

Next we'll hear Mike Milbury talk about the "Soccerfication" of hockey.

The former New York Islanders general manager, working on Versus, called the twins "Thelma and Louise," after they have accounted for just four points in the final...."I think he has to be happy with his career," Henrik added. "He did a great job on Long Island. I'm sure he is happy with that."..."Usually, the guys who sit in those situations, they're called experts," said Daniel. "They're there for a reason, I think. We don't really worry about those kind of comments. He made a bad comment about us, calling us women. I don't know how he looks at women. I would be pretty mad if I was a woman."

 

Pogo Pogo's picture

The Sedin's have built their career on the cycle.  Most of their work is in the corner.  I never can figure out why people question their resolve.  The Canucks have had their fill of floaters but the Sedins are not among them. 

Not to mention the millions they have donated to charities.

Northern Shoveler Northern Shoveler's picture

Mike Mulbury played 11 seasons and scored 38 goals.  Not per year but grand total.  He also coached for 6 seasons and He didn't win then either.  

I'd take one Sedin over a pair of players like he was. Lets face it he was the type of semi goon that Boston has relied on to get to the playoffs. There is a good reason he doesn't like the skilled players.  He wasn't one himself. His job was to clutch and grab and obstruct the good players.

As Sedin implied only someone with little or no respect for women would consider using Thelma and Louise as an insult.

I'd also take any one of these champions before a loser like him.

 

 

Jacob Richter

Did "Sedin Sisters," a derision used by some Canucks fans when they're struggling, have no appeal whatsoever for Milbury to stoop to a new low?

Fidel

Now I really do want the Canucks to win it all. Milbury's a fucktardian asshole-deluxe. And those are his good points.

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I had no idea Milbury was such a woeful GM:

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Milbury has also been criticized for the many decisions he made in which payroll or orders for upper management were not factors. Many young players and prospects that Milbury traded away went on to have distinguished careers, often eclipsing those of the players he received in return. He has traded away defensemen Zdeno CharaWade Redden,Bryan BerardEric BrewerDarius Kasparaitis, and Bryan McCabe; goalies Roberto Luongo and Tommy Salo, as well as forwards Olli JokinenTodd BertuzziTim Connolly, and Raffi Torres. Milbury has also come under fire for his draft day decisions such as choosing Rick DiPietro first overall in 2000 over Dany Heatley and Marian Gaborik; as well as his decision to include the 2001 second overall draft pick (Jason Spezza) as part of the Alexei Yashin trade.

From Wikipedia

 

Northern Shoveler Northern Shoveler's picture

That's why Sedin's Long Island dig was so delicious.  He was the coach during four years.  The first year they missed the playoffs.  The next year he was replaced mid season.  The year after he was back and they missed the playoffs again. The fourth year he was once again fired.

He slashed Sedin with a chop to the hands but Henrik scored during the delayed penalty time.

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Sedin twins show what the NHL should be

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Indeed, their refusal to adopt the so-called “North American” style of play (described by its proponents as “gritty,” “physical,” “in-your-face” and anything else that sounds manly) made them favourite targets for media and sportswriters when they began their career. They were famously labelled “the Sedin sisters,” as if to remind the world that hockey is not only Canada’s game but it’s also a man’s man’s man’s game.

Turns out the “sisters” knew something Cherry didn’t. In the past two seasons each of the twins has led the NHL in scoring, and this year they have led their team to the Stanley Cup finals.

They don’t exactly fit the corporate-sellout trend either, quietly ranking near the top of the NHL in charitable donations, and offering to take less money than they could have earned to stay together and to stay with their team. When they first made a name for themselves as teenagers, their mother coached them not to take every lucrative endorsement deal that came their way (hope you’re listening, Sidney Crosby). When Brian Burke first flew to Sweden to see them play, he saw a dismal performance and demanded an explanation from his scouts: Henrik and Daniel had pulled an all-nighter before the game … studying for a high-school chemistry test.

Nope, these are not your average hockey players. While the Stahl brothers trash their hotel rooms in boozy punch-ups and Patrick Kane hits the tabloids in a shirtless-limousine fracas, Daniel quietly tells a reporter, “We don’t like parties. We just like playing hockey and soccer.” Unlike so many of their contemporaries, the respect that they show for themselves, their teammates and, yes, their opponents is not an act put on for the cameras but a real manifestation of the way they play the game.

bekayne

Catchfire wrote:

I had no idea Milbury was such a woeful GM:

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Milbury has also been criticized for the many decisions he made in which payroll or orders for upper management were not factors. Many young players and prospects that Milbury traded away went on to have distinguished careers, often eclipsing those of the players he received in return. He has traded away defensemen Zdeno CharaWade Redden,Bryan BerardEric BrewerDarius Kasparaitis, and Bryan McCabe; goalies Roberto Luongo and Tommy Salo, as well as forwards Olli JokinenTodd BertuzziTim Connolly, and Raffi Torres. Milbury has also come under fire for his draft day decisions such as choosing Rick DiPietro first overall in 2000 over Dany Heatley and Marian Gaborik; as well as his decision to include the 2001 second overall draft pick (Jason Spezza) as part of the Alexei Yashin trade.

From Wikipedia

 

In fact, the Islanders are currently paying Yashin more to not play hockey than the Canucks are paying Burrows (2.2 million a year until 2015)

al-Qa'bong

Catchfire wrote:

I had no idea Milbury was such a woeful GM:

He's pretty famous as having been an inept GM, which is why I've never understood his being hired as a "hockey expert" by the CBC.  The only reason I can see is that he's controversial, and thus good for ratings. That would, ironically, reveal the ineptitude of CBC management.

Sven Sven's picture

I suspect that the Canucks will finish the job tonight.  I thought that they'd get it done in five games.  But, whatever the number of games played, I think the Cup will end up in Vancouver.

N.Beltov N.Beltov's picture

The Stanley Cup is in the house.

remind remind's picture

Doesn't seem that tonight will be the night, at 3-0 but of course they "want" it to go all  7 games they have wages to pay.

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

When it rains it pours.

Sven Sven's picture

Jesus.  The 'Nucks are lucky to have home-ice advantage (they can't play for sheit in Boston).

N.Beltov N.Beltov's picture

At least the coach had the brains to pull Bobby Lu at the right time. In the past, he couldn't get this simple task right.

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N.Beltov wrote:

At least the coach had the brains to pull Bobby Lu at the right time. In the past, he couldn't get this simple task right.

No doubt.

Guess this is headed to Game 7...the 'Nucks look terrible.

Sven Sven's picture

'Nucks should start Schneider for Game 7...

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From the 'Nucks fan board: "...the Nucks being absolutely schooled in Beantown, while scraping out wins at home..."

That's about it.

And, now, without Raymond?  This is going to get interesting...no, not this game but Game 7...

al-Qa'bong

If I hear nother sportscaster say that the stakes are higher now, I'm going to...blindside some guy into the back boards on an icing.

The stakes are the same now as they were in the first round.  You lose then, you're out; you lose now, you're out.  The main difference is that you don't have to beat anyone else once you win the last game in this series.

One Chance Only

I've been following the game forever, and I don't think the Canucks are going to do it now.  Maybe next year if they pick up another goal scorer.  Someone for real.  If they'd even kept this one close then they'd still have some positives to build on, but Luongo never even gave them a chance.   Overrated is right.   If the Sedins were really as good as they say they'd at least have made some impact at some point.  Orr and Esposito may not have been able to win every one for the old Bruins but they were always a factor.  

Fidel

How about an Ovechkin, Crosby,  or Stamkos? You can afford only so many of those. Sure it's fun to have the goal scorers, but it takes a team effort and chemistry to win it all.

Well I must say that the pie seems higher now...<blammo!>

One Chance Only

No need for a superstar, just someone who could finish in front of the net, maybe a power play specialist.   Noone talks about it but Vancouver doesn't actually have much scoring depth.  Samuelson being out and Kesler playing hurt hasn't helped, but I think they're missing Hamhuis the most.  I wonder if he'll be back.  

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The only thing the Canucks need is an e.coli virus with Tim Thomas's name on it. The season's leading scorers need a goal scorer? I don't think so.

Of course, they need to jettison Luongo's ballooned salary and rickety psyche.

ETA. I still think they'll pull it out in seven--but then again, I thought they'd do it in six. Serves me right for agreeing with Sven.

MegB

Halfway through the 3rd, Boston ahead by 3 ...

MegB

Not that I care, or anything.

Fidel

Nucks are crowd pleasing again. 

And Thomas is out there for the full 60 minutes sliding and flopping around on the ice with about 30 lbs of goalie equipnment on, expending calories and perspiring.

Meanwhile Lu is resting and conserving his strength for game seven on Wednesday. Clever strategy by Lu and Alain.

Nucks almost had 3 goals tonight that I could see. Subtract a stupid 5-on-3 pp for the Bruins, and it could just as easily have been a tight game.

One Chance Only

That 5 on 3 pp was BS.  They could still do it, but I wonder if Luongo can right himself one more time.  I guess the Nucks will keep us all guessing till the end. 

Fidel

Let's see now. Tuesday in Latin apparently means Mars, or god of war. That's surely the Bruins. Apparently it was the Bruins' night at the TD as usual.

But Wednesday represents Mercury, the god of commerce, TRAVEL, and thievery etc. That's the Nucks. So they should steal another one on Wednesday. Or perhaps it will be Luongo who steals it for them.

I think the Nucks will bring it on Wednesday. 

GO NUCKS GO!

melovesproles

Rationally, I thought Vancouver would have a hard time closing this without it coming down to a nailbiter or heartbreaker.  But I had a 'good feeling' about tonight, I really thought they might play their A game.  I'm lucky I hate losing money so much that I don't bet on my hunches.

I like this Vancouver team, I still think they'll do this.  Luongo has another 'legacy' game coming up. 

The biggest shock for me in this series has been the complete inability of Vancouver to score goals.  I agree with the criticism of shallow scoring depth on Vancouver.  It's been kind of hidden because of the powerplay but Boston seems to have solved that.  It sucks that Raymond is injured, it sounds like it's really bad.  He can draw penalties with his speed and is a good penalty killer but he's done very little offensively on the second line.  The third line has provided more offense than the second one since the Nashville series.  I think Vancouver can grind out another home win, I think they have the character to fignt really hard for that.  But yeah, I'd say the one piece they could really use is a fast winger with nice hands to play with Kesler.

Fidel

I think the Nucks are still a speedier team than the Bruins even without Raymond. I think the Sedins might be among the slowest skaters on the team. Too, the Bruins are without Horton the Hab slayer. Sure he hasn't scored points in this series, but those kinds of guys are always a scoring threat and going concern for the other team. Saavy was out for the Bruins early on, their star quarterback on the PP and one less worry for the Nucks. It could be worse. 

And even if the Nucks don't pull it off, they've played the Bruins pretty well. They've won three games against a pretty good team and are behind them on almost every statistic in this series. I think the Nucks deserve some credit for getting this far - game seven in the Stanley Cup final. This is a good team and nothing to apologize for. I like the Canucks.

Go NUCKS GO! Go NUCKS GO! GO NUCKS GO!

al-Qa'bong

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The biggest shock for me in this series has been the complete inability of Vancouver to score goals.  I agree with the criticism of shallow scoring depth on Vancouver. 

 

I don't know about that; had the two teams exchanged goalies this series would have been over in four games. Even tonight, I wouldn't say the Bruins had much of an edge in play. The problem was the seive in between the Vancouver pipes.

 

Luongo seems much sharper at home for some reason, while the Bruins forwards never seem very dangerous in Vancouver.

 

A bad bounce is probably going to decide the champion this year.

Caissa

They should have hauled Luongo after the first goal. Wednesday won't be as bad a s watching the Memorial Cup final.

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Catchfire wrote:

ETA. I still think they'll pull it out in seven--but then again, I thought they'd do it in six. Serves me right for agreeing with Sven.

Actually, I thought the 'Nucks would win it in five games.

However, I think there is something that we do agree on: The earth is essentially spherical in shape.

Tongue out

Sven Sven's picture

Daniel Sedin: ""We will win Game 7."

I like that.  He's putting everything on the line.

My guess?  'Nucks 4 - Bruins 2

al-Qa'bong

What's he supposed to say, "We will try our best, but probably lose Game  Seven, especially if that unpleasant little Marchand fellow is allowed onto the ice"?

DaveW

Pogo wrote:

The Sedin's have built their career on the cycle.  Most of their work is in the corner.  I never can figure out why people question their resolve. 

the Sedins will win it, I would guess (2 hours to game time),

and gold-medal winner Luongo wil return to home-ice  form, the opposite of his Boston form

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Johnny Canuck was a Canadian cartoon superhero who was created as a political cartoon in 1869 and was later re-invented, first in 1942, then in 1975.

Johnny Canuck was created as a lumberjack national personification of Canada. He first appeared in early political cartoons where he was portrayed as a younger cousin of the United States' Uncle Sam and Britain's John Bull. Depicted as a wholesome, if simple-minded, fellow in the garb of a habitant, farmer, logger, rancher or soldier, he often resisted the bullying of John Bull or Uncle Sam. For thirty years, he was a staple of editorial cartoonists. Then, in the early twentieth century, he faded from view.

The character re-emerged during World War II in the February 1942 issue of Bell's Dime Comics No.1. Cartoonist Leo Bachle created the character as a teenager, apparently on a challenge from a Bell executive.

Johnny Canuck has been adopted, unofficially, by the Vancouver Canucks as a second team mascot and alternate logo.

Go Canucks Go

 

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I am officially nominating Tim Thomas for the Kirk Mclean Award.  He is about to break a playoff record set by Kirk for the most saves in the playoffs. Like Kirk he will be remembered for having carried a decent but not exceptional team to 15 wins in the playoffs.

Go Canucks Go

 

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Northern Shoveler wrote:

I am officially nominating Tim Thomas for the Kirk Mclean Award.  He is about to break a playoff record set by Kirk for the most saves in the playoffs. Like Kirk he will be remembered for having carried a decent but not exceptional team to 15 wins in the playoffs. 

Tim Thomas is a perfect example of the adage that a hot goalie can carry an entire team in the playoffs (like Roloson did in Edmonton's 2006 run to the Cup Finals -- which they lost only because Roli got injured in Game 1 of the Cup Finals).

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