Toronto-Danforth By-election

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Stockholm

ravenj wrote:

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Michelle, you've touched on one of the first things about Jack that won me over to him. He didn't have a seat, but instead of muscling aside an incumbent in a safe seat, he decided he wanted to represent his own constituency. I would think that parachuting in a candidate with no ties locally would be a huge disservice to Layton's legacy.

Layton running in Danforth also made a positive impression with me as well.  It was also a gutsy move at that time - NDP did not have a single Toronto seat.  I thought Layton was crazy to run in Toronto.  How time has changed.

Its not as if Layton had any choice. Where else but Toronto could he have run??? The NDP only had 13 seats when he became leader - are you suggesting he could have taken the "easy way out" and demanded that Yvon Godin step aside so Jack could run in rural New Brunswick?? Jack's whole leadership campaign revolved around his ability to re-establish the NDP in major urban centres like Toronto...his leadership would have crashed on ther launch pad if he had then turned around and said he would move to Winnipeg and boot Judy W-L out of her seat. Here was a man who had sat on Toronto city council for almost 20 years and was a household name - why would he have wanted to be NDP leader at all unless he believed he could win a seat in Toronto.

ottawaobserver

In fact, had Gerard Kennedy tried something similar: going and running somewhere out west after selling himself as the "western candidate" in that leadership race, he would have earned a lot more credibility.

Paul Gross

And maybe, just maybe, in this hypothetical scenario G. Kennedy would still be an MP alongside Kevin Lamoureux and Ralph Goodale

Paul Gross

Alexa McDonough did the same thing when she was elected as a seatless leader. But she took a much bigger challenge by (successfully) running against a entrenched Liberal MP in Halifax.

Toronto Danforth had a history of being a solid NDP seat and was one of first seats one would expect a recovered NDP to regain

On the other hand, the NDP had never managed to even come in second in Halifax federally prior to Alexa.

Stockholm wrote:

ravenj wrote:

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Michelle, you've touched on one of the first things about Jack that won me over to him. He didn't have a seat, but instead of muscling aside an incumbent in a safe seat, he decided he wanted to represent his own constituency. I would think that parachuting in a candidate with no ties locally would be a huge disservice to Layton's legacy.

Layton running in Danforth also made a positive impression with me as well.  It was also a gutsy move at that time - NDP did not have a single Toronto seat.  I thought Layton was crazy to run in Toronto.  How time has changed.

Its not as if Layton had any choice. Where else but Toronto could he have run??? The NDP only had 13 seats when he became leader - are you suggesting he could have taken the "easy way out" and demanded that Yvon Godin step aside so Jack could run in rural New Brunswick?? Jack's whole leadership campaign revolved around his ability to re-establish the NDP in major urban centres like Toronto...his leadership would have crashed on ther launch pad if he had then turned around and said he would move to Winnipeg and boot Judy W-L out of her seat. Here was a man who had sat on Toronto city council for almost 20 years and was a household name - why would he have wanted to be NDP leader at all unless he believed he could win a seat in Toronto.

vaudree

I would like El Farouk Khaki.

A bi-election before the leadership race would be both ideal and risky.  It would show that whoever runs plans to be part of the team and isn't just there for the top job.

Topp would be along the lines of

adma

One other "gutsy" thing about Jack in Toronto-Danforth: he was up against the aggressive Liberal machine of Dennis Mills--indeed, Mills proving to be no mere pushover *may*, according to some reports, have led NDP central to slack off on Olivia in order to save Jack...

Lord Palmerston

Amanda Lang would be a great Liberal leader.  It would make the party quite useful as a boutique party for affluent professionals that agree with neoliberal economics but don't like Harper, while ceding the progressive vote to the NDP.

Uncle John

It is funny how on the Lang and O'Leary report the CBC disclaims neoliberal blowhard Kevin O'Leary's views as not being representative of the CBC, wheras big bank and index fund shill Amanda Lang is allowed to say things like "Why not invest in the Royal Bank?" with impunity.

Stockholm

I used to always describe the Greens as "Tories with composters". My description of Liberal Party supporters is "Tories who air kiss their gay hairdressers"

Uncle John

The 'right' are hyperindividualistic multimillionaires like Kevin O'Leary and their bootlickers and the 'left' are the Bay St. Establishment saying "Thank God you are not OUR boss". Thus is the new left-right paradigm on the CBC. Oh did you see this wonderful piece of Oil Sands apologetics on CBC? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2011/09/01/daryl-hannah-oil-... Notice how it is labelled "ANALYSIS" so it comes across like 'NEUTRAL" CBC reporting. Canadian Broadcorping Castration indeed.

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