Ontario Riding of Windsor-Tecumseh By-Election

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Good start for Horwath-led NDP as that Liberal majority becomes more elusive with each passing day

Forum Research poll:

NDP - 42%

Libs - 32%

Cons - 19%

Grn - 2%

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NorthReport wrote:

Good start for Horwath-led NDP as that Liberal majority becomes more elusive with each passing day

Forum Research poll:

NDP - 42%

Libs - 32%

Cons - 19%

Grn - 2%

I doubt there'll be by-elections, unless Wynne passes a budget. Anyway, she has six months to call them, if her government doesn't fall in the meantime.

adma

NorthReport wrote:

Good start for Horwath-led NDP as that Liberal majority becomes more elusive with each passing day

Forum Research poll:

NDP - 42%

Libs - 32%

Cons - 19%

Grn - 2%

Not to be Debater about it, but that same poll offered the "what if Pupatello were running" question, and the results were 44-31-18-3 for Pupatello.  (Which may all be moot now, anyway.)

scott16

Forum Research poll:

NDP - 42%

Libs - 32%

Cons - 19%

Grn - 2%

is this Windsor-Tecumseh or province wide?

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adma wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

Good start for Horwath-led NDP as that Liberal majority becomes more elusive with each passing day

Forum Research poll:

NDP - 42%

Libs - 32%

Cons - 19%

Grn - 2%

Not to be Debater about it, but that same poll offered the "what if Pupatello were running" question, and the results were 44-31-18-3 for Pupatello.  (Which may all be moot now, anyway.)

Pupatello is very popular in this neck of the woods. It wouldn't surprise me if she and Duncan run federally in 2015.

NorthReport

All these ifs, ands, or buts.

Right now the NDP has a commanding lead in the riding.  Smile

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adma

NorthReport wrote:

All these ifs, ands, or buts.

Right now the NDP has a commanding lead in the riding.  Smile

Though even that can be blown (cf. Helmi Charif, 2011, next door)

And all of that's interesting to consider: in 2011, prognosticators were saying that the NDP would "inevitably" take Pupatello's open seat, while Duncan was safe--yet the NDP did better vs Duncan than vs Pupatello's successor...

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It's not axiomatic that CAW members would vote against Pupatello or Duncan, federally, since many voted for them provincially. Also, does anyone remember the CAW jacket that Buzz Hargrove famously gave to Paul Martin (Windsor's favourite son)? Duncan has already been singing the praises of St. Justin, whose coattails seem to be growing longer, as his coronation draws nearer. In the meantime, as it stands, I'd say the NDP, without Pupatello in the running, would likely win this riding in a provincial election.

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David Young

janfromthebruce wrote:

I'm thinking that with Buzz gone, long gone and a different leader, and also the Libs removing collective bargaining rights that the CAW members would be more inclined to support the NDP who voted against anti democratic legislation, and going down the path of the "right to work" state.

And blogger, Blunt Objects,  also suggests, like I thought, that the NDP actually stands a good chance in London West

 

By-election Outlook

While a PC win is not impossible, it doesn't necessarily look likely. Tim Hudak's party isn't going too well in polling, even if they're in first place most of the time; most polls have shown them underperforming the 35% they earned in 2011. If Hudak's party was polling better, I would actually be inclined to say they're the prohibitive favourites - but if it comes down to a Lib-PC fight, I'd place my bets on the Liberals.

Current Rolling Average for London West
34% Lib, 34% NDP, 27% PC, 4% Green

Innovative Jan. 27-29 Poll
37% Lib, 33% NDP, 25% PC, 4% Green

However, with the current upswing for the New Democrats in southwestern Ontario, they're the ones who could upset us! While the PCs haven't done as well in the region, the NDP have come up and their rise could threaten the Liberals in London West, especially in a by-election setting. The only reason we maintain the numbers we do is because of Bentley's strong performance in the riding; how much of that support is a personal vote for him, we don't really know. We could see the Liberals at a big disadvantage, or we could maintain steady support. Hard to know this far out, but we're going to have an interesting set of by-elections to be sure.

'Set of by-elections'?

To which seats are you referring to, jan?

 

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Wynne has six months to call by-elections. I doubt that her government will last that long. So, there's no point in strengthening her opposition's hand, while providing them with additional momentum. Until then, the Liberals will attempt to consolidate its base in and around Toronto.

David Young

So, it's believed that McGinty and Bentley are going to resign as M.P.P.'s?

 

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David Young wrote:

So, it's believed that McGinty and Bentley are going to resign as M.P.P.'s?

 

Bentley has announced that he will, February 14th. McGuinty has indicated that he'll continue as an MPP, at least until an election.

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NorthReport

NDP would win riding of Windsor-Tecumseh in by-election: Poll

 

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2013/02/11/new-poll-suggests-ndp-would-take...

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NorthReport wrote:

NDP would win riding of Windsor-Tecumseh in by-election: Poll

 

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2013/02/11/new-poll-suggests-ndp-would-take...

...presuming there will be one before the next general election.

NorthReport

The ONt NDP sure seem like they are on fire with Andrea. Finally the Bob Rae stench that has stuck to the Ont NDP for so long, is starting to wear off. Sweet!

NDP to 'work like hell' for Windsor-Tecumseh seat

NDP Leader Andrea Horwath wouldn't say who will run in the riding but said there is lots of interest in the vacant seat

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2013/02/12/wdr-ndp-andrea-ho...

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NorthReport wrote:

The ONt NDP sure seem like they are on fire with Andrea. Finally the Bob Rae stench that has stuck to the Ont NDP for so long, is starting to wear off. Sweet!

NDP to 'work like hell' for Windsor-Tecumseh seat

NDP Leader Andrea Horwath wouldn't say who will run in the riding but said there is lots of interest in the vacant seat

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2013/02/12/wdr-ndp-andrea-ho...

If Wynne is crazy enough to call a by-election, the NDP would be equally nuts to parachute a candidate into this riding.

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adma

Meanwhile, in London West

http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2013/02/13/liberals_in_dogfight_t...

Forum Research: PC 34, Lib 30, NDP 28, GP 4--and that's generic party choice, one presumes.  Another byelection on NDP radar, folks.

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@janfromthebruce: Fair enough, but there's nothing to preclude the local riding association from approving an outsider. It's the electors who get the final say.

adma

Federally, Malcolm Allen was an "outsider" when first elected in Welland (i.e. he served on council in Pelham, which is just outside the riding's present boundaries)

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adma wrote:

Federally, Malcolm Allen was an "outsider" when first elected in Welland (i.e. he served on council in Pelham, which is just outside the riding's present boundaries)

I was thinking of someone with little or no local connection. For that matter, Paul Martin, or Buzz Hargrove, could claim one.

Doug

NorthReport wrote:

The ONt NDP sure seem like they are on fire with Andrea. Finally the Bob Rae stench that has stuck to the Ont NDP for so long, is starting to wear off. Sweet!

 

But it certainly could be reattached if Horwath isn't clear about and successful in defending NDP economic and budget plans. I worry that if polling shows the NDP likely to form government during the next campaign, some supporters might have second thoughts.

NorthReport

Agreed!

NorthReport

Windsor City Councillor Percy Hatfield seeks NDP nomination in Windsor-Tecumseh

 

 

http://windsor.ctvnews.ca/hatfield-seeks-ndp-nomination-in-windsor-tecum...