Susan, you pretty much nailed it and thanks for sharing it. I think I finally get it now, its about wanting to call women victims; I don't know why I didn't figure this out sooner. Would you be willing to explain why some who call themsevles "progressive feminists" support the Nordic model. Also, what do you think it is that keeps the NDP from just coming out in support of legalization? From my standpoint, we should just legalize this. I don't understand why we have to stay stuck in the Dark Ages. I have no real experience with this in any way, but its time to be pragmatic and develop a workable solution that is implemented passed on what "those in the know", so to speak thinks will work best. Enough is enough.Progressive feminists support the Nordic model because we see classes of people not just individuals. We know that even willing women who think they are doing just fine end up with PTSD because of the "pretty woman" version of prostitution being peddled. We know that 95% of the women on the street want out. They do not want to be doing what they are doing. They hate it. They feel trapped.
Why aren't more poor men giving oral to other men? If it's just a job, anyone can do it. Doesn't have to be women. Anuses are tight. Men can use those too. If it's just like a massage anyone can do it.
Not so fast you say, can't choose your sexual orientation. No kidding, because sex isn't just like a massage. Even so I think more men could make a good living at it. So men, honestly think to yourself, if you could legally make 100$ an hour giving bjs, would it be worth it to you? If you have a son, and it were legal, would you recommend it as a means of getting through school? Sexual orientation doesn't matter because the server doesn't need to be enjoying themselves. Like the woman in my previous post, you just have to learn how to suppress your sexual responses.
Human sexuality is complex and we have reactions we can't easily stop. Sex, without physical damage, can be horrifying or transcending. No other human experience compares.
Yep, Human Sexuality is complex and that is why there will always be Prostitutes, male and female. So instead of arresting people and throwing them in jail for something they are going to do anyway, like Prohibition, why don't we stop sticking our heads in the sand, and actually do something that will work. Over at Twitter, I follow I think it is 6 or 7 "Professional", Sex-workers, none of whom support the Nordic Model. If your reasoing is correct, does that mean these women don't have any idea about which they are speaking?
When I was a young man in University, I wrote a 300 page paper on the Suffrage Movement, and during my studies came to realize it wasn't about Suffrage for all, it was about Suffrage for some. From my point of view, I have come to view a significant portion of the Feminist Movement as really Middle Class women who are focused on issues as they see them, thinking that they know what is best for their peers. I am picking up some of that from your comments.
I am not going to apologize for saying what I did above, and don't think my gender preclues understanding these issues just as well. I just don't believe that there is unanimity among women regarding the best approach, and I think a significant portion of them think you are wrong. Shouldn't we be trying to get beyond "patriarchy"?