I've been lurking on this board over the past couple of months, and it seems apparent that the crux of Debater and Pondering's argurments rest solely on the fact that the Liberals are the party to vote for based on current polls and the apparent likelihood of them being the main alternative to Harper.
I find this strange, given that is clearly obvious that visitors of this site care about social and economic justice, and the main objections to the Liberal Party have nothing to do with irrational hatred, but rather their record in power and the current (few) positions and policies held by Trudeau. We don't want to vote for the lesser of two evils, we want to vote for social democracy, similar to those in Scandinavian countires and less like corporatist US Democrats. The fact that Trudeau is seen as a vacuous, empty suit adds to the frustration, but it is not the primary reason Babbler's are not fond of him. It's what he and his party stands for.
It'd be nice to hear an argurment from Liberal supporters as to why they need to be in power again from a policy standpoint, given their record corporate welfare, social safety net slashing and terrible record on the enviroment.