NDP MP quits for Ontario Liberals

Oh for goodness sakes.

Evan Solomon is to media what Trudeau is to politics - wet behind the ears!  

Debater wrote:

Good point.  Contrary to what Nicky said, Thibeault did state some reasons.  He stated that under Layton there was more emphasis on positive politics but that under the current NDP leadership it is about partisianship and vicious attacks.  (And just look at the way NDPers attack Liberals on Babble).  What happened to love is better than hate?

Btw, I guess Nicky missed Thibeault's interview on Evan Solomon last month.  Thibeault said he'd been having issues with the NDP leadership for some time, and that Mulcair's recent impulsive idea to re-open the gun registry was something else he had a problem with.

Winston, when NDP supporters attack Justin Trudeau every day they reveal they are afraid of him.  And here's another reason why today:

The Canadian Press

Trudeau Liberals post best fundraising results in 10 years

Joan Bryden

January 20, 2015 

http://www.yorktonthisweek.com/news/national-news/liberals-post-best-fun...

NDP politicains are just politicians, contoray to poopular belief among NDP supporters, saints didnt come from heaven to run the NDP. Plenty of NDP scandals to point to in all provinces it governed it. Glenn  Thibeault is an opportunist, but he is a politician. The party of the downtrodden has the kindness to take money from taxpayers for satellite offices, mailings, and hospitality. I am not worried about Trudeau, goodluck if the NDP wins a majority, which it wont, but lets assume for a second that it wins a minority. It will become very umpopular, very quickly. 

ajaykumar wrote:

NDP politicains are just politicians, contoray to poopular belief among NDP supporters, saints didnt come from heaven to run the NDP. Plenty of NDP scandals to point to in all provinces it governed it. Glenn  Thibeault is an opportunist, but he is a politician. The party of the downtrodden has the kindness to take money from taxpayers for satellite offices, mailings, and hospitality. I am not worried about Trudeau, goodluck if the NDP wins a majority, which it wont, but lets assume for a second that it wins a minority. It will become very umpopular, very quickly. 

 

True to an extent, however "scandals" are one thing, corrpution another. Shoveling millions off that back of a truck to the grasping hands of waiting constituents ala Tony Clement, and the G8 cash grab, or pumping money into the hands of Quebec power brokers, in the name of "National Unity" is quite different than Svend Robinson engaging in small time kleptomania.

We are talking about the difference between systemic intentional large scale political corruption, and the failure of some NDP politicians to properly separate their political position from their personal position.

"Scandal" and "Corruption" are not the same thing. The Liberals live and breath corruption. It is the way the work. It is what they are about.

Debater wrote:

Winston, when NDP supporters attack Justin Trudeau every day they reveal they are afraid of him.  And here's another reason why today:

So then what does it signify when Liberal supporters spend 100% of their time attacking Mulcair and attacking the NDP as they hyperventilate from "NDP derangement syndrome"?? I guess that according to Debater it must be because deep down Liberals are scared shitless of the NDP!

Stockholm wrote:

Debater wrote:

Winston, when NDP supporters attack Justin Trudeau every day they reveal they are afraid of him.  And here's another reason why today:

So then what does it signify when Liberal supporters spend 100% of their time attacking Mulcair and attacking the NDP as they hyperventilate from "NDP derangement syndrome"?? I guess that according to Debater it must be because deep down Liberals are scared shitless of the NDP!

The Liberals spend most of their time going after Harper, actually.

Justin Trudeau himself is giving a speech in London tonight focusing on the ways in which the Conservative economic policies have let down the people in Southwestern Ontario.  You can read about it in the Joan Bryden article I posted.

The reason Liberal supporters on this board have to go after Mulcair & the NDP sometimes is because most of the threads here consist of NDPers attacking Trudeau for everything while ignoring Mulcair's failures.

nicky wrote:

4. Hassana has just about the lowest attendance record in the hosuse. She was going to be opposed for the nomination in any event and is not running again.

Some understanding for issues over motherhood, perhaps? 

She says she's not yet decided whether to re-offer. [url=http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/15/when-is-it-okay-to-miss-parliame... Hassainia interview[/url]

No dispute on the rest of them, of course!

Debater wrote:

The Liberals spend most of their time going after Harper, actually.

I have only ever seen you attack the NDP as part of your NDP dernagement syndrome - you barely ever say a word about the Tories. There are rightwing websites that are the small 'c" conservative equivalent of rabble - do you spend as much time in those sites lurking and being disruptive by attacking the Conservative party and Stephen Harper the way you attack the NDP here? If so, please provide a link - i would like to see in living colour Liberals actually picking fights with Conservtaives - it seems to be such a rare phenomenon these days

Back to the topic in the title of the thread, here is the endorsement today from Ironworkers Local 786:

“We believe Glenn will be a terrific MPP for the people of Sudbury,” said Armand Charbonneau, Business Manager for Ironworkers Local 786. “Glenn’s strong track record in Ottawa makes us sure he is the strongest candidate in this election and we're proud to support him in becoming our representative at Queen’s Park."

Charbonneau continued by praising Thibeault for his work, “As Sudbury MP, Thibeault has had an excellent record defending the rights of tradespeople and fighting for more jobs and better-paying jobs.”

http://votethibeault.ca/News/2210?l=EN

Debater wrote:

NDP derangement syndrome?

What about Liberal derangement syndrome?  Many Babblers (including yourself?) appear to have that.  You primarily attack the Liberals.

When are we going to have some threads on here that focus on going after the Conservatives and where both Liberals & NDPers can enjoy participating in them?

We, go after YOUR party, because, YOU, and YOUR party, are Conservatives in sheeps clothing, "Debater".

Look at this kind of nastiness and baiting- just the Liberal way I suppose. But at some point they will pay the price. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Debater wrote:

Good point.  Contrary to what Nicky said, Thibeault did state some reasons.  He stated that under Layton there was more emphasis on positive politics but that under the current NDP leadership it is about partisianship and vicious attacks.  (And just look at the way NDPers attack Liberals on Babble).  What happened to love is better than hate?

Btw, I guess Nicky missed Thibeault's interview on Evan Solomon last month.  Thibeault said he'd been having issues with the NDP leadership for some time, and that Mulcair's recent impulsive idea to re-open the gun registry was something else he had a problem with.