Chicago Blackhawks should change logo

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Chicago Blackhawks should change logo

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Think of it this way: the basic message being sent to Native Americans is that we stole your land and pushed you to the point of invisibility through one of the most successful genocides in human history, but we reserve the right to use cartoon images of your people to entertain ourselves. In what universe is that not offensive?

[url=http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20140522/discuss/140529359/]Blackhawks should lead on mascot change[/url]

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I wish the author of the linked article had taken the time to seek some input from the three Sac [Sauk] and Fox groupings that are in existence (the Sac and Fox Nation in Oklahoma, the Sac and Fox Tribe of the Missiissippi in Iowa, and the Sac and Fox Nation of Missouri in Kansas and Nebraska). While I agree with much of what the author has written applies to a number of professional sports teams (particular the Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves, and Washington Redskins) I am not certain his critique applies in equal measure to the particular instance of the Chicago Black Hawks. The image used by the Chicago team, while stylistically dated, is hardly the cartoonish caricature of, say, the Cleveland Indians' logo. To the best of my knowledge, Chicago Black Hawk fans do not indulge themselves in buffoonish arm-waving group displays to the sound of a Hollywood "Cowboys & Indians" soundtrack that Atlanta Braves fans do, nor does the team name have the pejorative connotations of the Washington Redskins.

The author correctly points out that a number of the professional teams mentioned above defend their names as "tradition" and of "coming from a place of respect", I think he deals with the question of tradition adequately, he could have done more to demolish the illusion of "coming from a place of respect" with a few examples of the team marketers' and team fans' buffoonery.

I am still wondering, though, why this blond haired blue eyed academic whose surname seems to indicate ancestry in either the Low Countries or Germany seeks to raise the question in the absence of any apparent call from the descendants of the war leader for whom the Chicago NHL franchise appears to be named to actually, you know, change the name of the team. Could that be the smell of vanguardism in the morning? Is it possible the Sac and Fox people consider that the franchise is treating their ancestor with something approaching appropriate respect? Even a cursory search into the contemporary history of the Sax and Fox people shows they have sufficient organizational ability (and moxie) to tackle the state government in Oklahoma in a jurisdictional dispute over vehicle registration and taxation (a dispute the Sac and Fox ultimately won). Surely these people are not the kind of shrinking violets who need an outside academic to speak on their behalf.

If there comes a time when the descendants of Black Hawk seek to tell the owners of the Chicago NHL franchise to stop using the name and imagery, I would stand four-square with them, and I would hope the author of the piece would do the same. Until that time, though I am willing to give the franchise the benefit of the doubt and accept that are using the name and imagery with appropriate respect. Unlike the other professional franchises that come to mind when discussing names and imagery, the Chicago franchise is dealing with a particular name, with a particular history - and there are a particular people to consult with as to what kind of job they are doing - the other franchise are indulging in generalizations, with all the accompanying problems with stereotyping that generalizations bring to the table.

 

lagatta

Yes, he was an important military leader, not some generic "Indian". 

The Chicago Blackhawks of the National Hockey League indirectly derive their name from Black Hawk. Their first owner, Frederic McLaughlin, was a commander with the 333rd Machine Gun Battalion of the 86th Infantry Division during World War I, nicknamed the "Black Hawk Division" after the war leader. McLaughlin named the hockey team in honor of his military unit.[56]

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Yes, this is all well known, and the only objection expressed is to the logo, not to the team's name. Yes, it's not a racist carIcature like the Clevleand Indians logo or a racist name like the Washington Redskins. 

And yet, the logo is objected to by a number of campaigners. See for instance [url=http://nativeappropriations.com/2010/06/thanks-for-the-severed-head-youv... for the severed head, you've proved my point[/url] or the web page [url=http://thisshouldbetheblackhawkslogo.com/]This should be the Blackhawks logo[/url], both by First Nations activists. 

I'm still thinking all this through, but increasingly am tending to see the logo as problematic in similar ways to Pocahontas costumes and redface. 

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[url=http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/06/09/shirt-racist-tribe-... This Shirt 'Racist'? A Tribe Called Red Threatened With Boycott[/url]

mersh

Hell yeah they should change it. How hard is it to see that this "honouring" crap is really just pandering to stereotypes of nobility, bravery, etc. that have pervaded white thinking about indigenous peoples for years? It's appropriation, not respect.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-2003-cbc-massey-lectures-the-truth-abo...

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swallow wrote:

[url=http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/06/09/shirt-racist-tribe-... This Shirt 'Racist'? A Tribe Called Red Threatened With Boycott[/url]

Well I know I'm offended. Us white males have such a hard time and a bad rap. We're the most persecuted people on Earth.

milo204

My feeling is i should leave it up to First Nations to decide what is or is not offensive to them.  While i might personally consider it appropriation, most of my FN friends seem to be ok with it...

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Madison public school students will no longer be allowed to wear clothing with Native American athletic team names, logos or mascots that depict “negative stereotypes” while at school, after the Madison School Board voted to enact the rule in a unanimous vote last month.

The policy, which goes into effect this fall, might be the first of its kind for a school district, according to students who drafted the proposal.

The new policy also mandates that Madison schools ask visiting teams to leave Native American mascots and logos at home when they play a Madison school. If the other school does not comply, the game may be canceled.

And it would ban other clothing with “negative stereotypes” of race, gender, religion and other characteristics.

Gabriel Saiz, a junior at West High School and a member of the Ponca Tribe, worked with student government and other Native American students to draft the new policy and propose it to the board....

That means a student could wear a shirt from Black Hawk Middle School because its athletic teams use a wolf as a mascot. A shirt that reads “Chicago Blackhawks,” however, would be banned, because it’s a professional hockey team that uses a Native American name and mascot.

[url=http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/education/local_schools/madison-s... Wisc. schools bar native sports logos[/url]

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lagatta

No, of course not, but that has to do with stereotypes about "drunken Indians", not the original shirt.

And ironically, this shirt would be most often worn by drunken white dudes.

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Looks like the original shirt to me. Speaking of the way this logo is picked upnon drunken whites dudes....

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