http://rabble.ca/columnists/2015/06/shadow-paul-martin-can-you-trust-lib...
So who will battle the right-wing NDP?
You didn't address the question.
NDP Pulls Away From Pack. Which Right-Wing Party, Cons or Libs, will Right-Wing Canadians choose to try and stop the NDP?
Fri, 2015-06-26 23:34
#52
Fri, 2015-06-26 23:39
#53
Yikes!
Justin Trudeau rolls out his platform book during BBQ and beer season
Summer is traditionally the time politicians hit the barbecue circuit and unveil their human side: flipping burgers, kissing babies, wearing ill-fitting plaid shirts. For Liberal leader Justin Trudeau, however, it’s the reverse: after coasting on his sunny personality for two years, he has decided to inundate Canadians with policy announcements, just as they are firing up the grill.
From democratic reform to foreign policy, Trudeau can’t stop talking … even if he doesn’t think voters are listening. Last week he told Global News’ Tom Clark that Canadians don’t pay attention to politics in summertime: “People are getting ready for the end of school, for beginning summer vacations and going off with the family.… It’s only around Labour Day that people are going to start saying, ‘OK, we’ve got a decision to make in a couple of months about what our future’s going to look like’.”
But maybe this reveals a method to Trudeau’s madness. Perhaps he wants to talk policy now, precisely because he doesn’t want people to pay close attention to his ideas, he just wants them to acknowledge that he has some. Perhaps it’s better for him to deliver his policies when everyone’s gleefully surfing a beer buzz at the cottage, or trying to stop the kids from fighting over the Playstation. Yeah, that Trudeau’s not all charm, he has a plan … I just can’t remember what it is … now stop hitting your brother!
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http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/tasha-kheiriddin-justin-trudea...
Fri, 2015-06-26 23:45
#54
Trudeau 'extremely serene' with decision to support anti-terror bill
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-extremely-serene-with-decision-to...
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Fri, 2015-06-26 23:48
#55
Fri, 2015-06-26 23:52
#56
The Liberals must have written this script as they hope to duplicate what happened in Ontario.
NDP leader Mulcair makes pitch to Canadian big business
So now the Liberal Party of Canada is behind The World Socialist Web Site?
Sat, 2015-06-27 00:20
#57
I''m leaning towards the Conservatives as the answer to this thread topic question about which right-wing party will right-wing voters choose to take on the NDP.
I'll let you figure out who is going to defeat Conservatives all on your own.
Sat, 2015-06-27 01:21
#58
The Liberals must have written this script as they hope to duplicate what happened in Ontario.
NDP leader Mulcair makes pitch to Canadian big business
So now the Liberal Party of Canada is behind The World Socialist Web Site?
Of course they are. It's a world wide conspiracy. The World Socialist Web Site is just a cover for The Right.
Sat, 2015-06-27 09:52
#59
Jeffrey Simpson has article in globe today
Are we witnessing the slow death of Liberals in Canada?
Sat, 2015-06-27 11:38
#60
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/are-we-witnessing-the-strang...
Not much analysis. But the media continues to focus on the Liberals in the horse race, instead of talking about policies or ideas. Just that the Liberals went from first place to third place. I guess this is where the media's obsession with the Liberals has turned into a liability for Trudeau.
Sat, 2015-06-27 12:44
#61
There is no question the liberals only chance is to attempt to do what happened in the Ontario election but it is destined to fail because the right wing liberals voted for bill c51 which totally undercuts their bullshit liberals are progressive meme
The NDP should thank the liberals for the liberals continuing political stupidity
Sat, 2015-06-27 13:16
#62
I don't support stradgic voting and nothings changed, vote NDP because its the better choice.
Sat, 2015-06-27 13:16
#63
So what are Stephen Taylor and Ezra Levant now batting zero for two going to do next?
Not only are most Canadians fed up with these clowns but it appears now that Harper has had his fill of them as well
Sat, 2015-06-27 13:59
#64
Gary Shaul
I'll venture to make this prediction should there be the likely outcome of a minority.
1) If Harper comes in first, he will claim the right to form a government as per Westminister tradition no matter what the popular vote. The NDP and Libs will have to bring that gov't down at the very first opportunity or suffer the fate they suffered when Harper prorogued Parliament to save himself by arguing they had no "mandate" to govern and that their actions were against the rules. The Libs may prefer to suffer that fate and prop them up for a couple of years as they did between 2006 and 2011 figuring Justin will have a better chance to win in 2017 or so.
2) If the Cons come in second, they will argue that because they formed the previous government that they still get the first chance to form a new government. They will still resurrect the "coalition" argument and say that voters did not vote to elect an NDP-Liberal-Green government. This will likely force a constitutional crisis. The waters will be greatly muddied. The G-G, appointed by Harper, may do his bidding.
3) If the Cons come in 3rd (longshot), Harper will resign post-haste as he will have outlived his usefulness.
Sat, 2015-06-27 14:28
#65
Gary,
Agreed that No 3 is a longshot.
People are writing off Harper, and underestimating the Cons, based on their dislike of him, rather than for legitimate reasons
Looking at the UBC election Stock Market this morning it does appear that the Liberals are more and more looking like a spent force, and the main election battle with be between Harper and Mulcair.
Sat, 2015-06-27 14:54
#66
Undecided voters who wait until the last minute usually break for the status quo. "Usually".
If the NDP is gonna beat the Conservatives, they need to beat them strongly and decisively.
Sat, 2015-06-27 14:59
#67
Election campaigns revolve, almost but not completely, around the party leaders, so by looking at the polling leadership trends, it may well give us the most accurate forecast of what is going to happen in October.
Without his cabinet stars, Harper is left to sell himself. And that’s not something he’s very good at
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/rex-murphy-without-his-cabinet...
Sat, 2015-06-27 15:05
#68
I don't think that undecideds breaking to the status quo will happen in this case. Harper is an unusual PM because he has never been popular. If the Liberals hadn't dropped the ball three times in a row (going on four) Harper would never have gotten into the big chair. The only thing that's kept him there has been a perceived lack of options. I think in this case, undecideds will not flee to the incumbents, as they would normally.
Sat, 2015-06-27 15:06
#69
alan smithee
Gary,
Agreed that No 3 is a longshot.
People are writing off Harper, and underestimating the Cons, based on their dislike of him, rather than for legitimate reasons
Looking at the UBC election Stock Market this morning it does appear that the Liberals are more and more looking like a spent force, and the main election battle with be between Harper and Mulcair.
Much like yourself with the Liberals.
Sat, 2015-06-27 15:23
#70
Elections are primarily about leaders.
When you hear more and more people talking about "not being ready", well you can fill in the rest of the picture.
Sat, 2015-06-27 15:26
#71
alan smithee
Elections are primarily about leaders.
When you hear more and more people talking about "not being ready", well you can fill in the rest of the picture.
Yes.That's what ALL Conservatives say.
Sat, 2015-06-27 15:36
#72
alan,
Perhaps you can adress your questions or concerns to Jeffrey Simpson, who has been mainstream media biggest booster of the Liberals for years, eh!
Just like the Greens have conned many people because of their name, Liberals have done the same thing. Right-wing is right-wing.
Are we witnessing the strange death of Liberal Canada?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/are-we-witnessing-the-strang...
Sat, 2015-06-27 15:37
#73
alan smithee
alan,
Perhaps you can adress your questions or concerns to Jeffrey Simpson, who has been mainstream media biggest booster of the Liberals for years, eh!.
Are we witnessing the strange death of Liberal Canada?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/are-we-witnessing-the-strang...
Nice Conservative spin. In any case,he mentions the death of Liberal Canada. Not the Liberals.And if that floats your boat,knock yourself out.
Sat, 2015-06-27 15:43
#74
alan,
sounds like you want to take over debater's role here.
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Sat, 2015-06-27 15:45
#75
Howard Hampton will represent the NDP in the Kenora riding during the federal election
http://www.kenoradailyminerandnews.com/2015/06/27/howard-hampton-will-re...
Sat, 2015-06-27 15:48
#76
alan smithee
NR,come out of the closet already.Not only are you a Conservative but you admire Stephen Harper.
I take huge offense to your insinuation that the anti-Harper crowd hate him for imaginary reasons.
You're either delusional or a Tory. Which one is it,NR?
Sat, 2015-06-27 15:49
#77
It's a matter of trust. Canadians may dislike Harper, but they just do not trust the Liberals to tell the truth.
Sat, 2015-06-27 16:37
#78
You are doing one hell of a job Justin!
No wonder voters don't trust the Liberals.
The abyss calling the kettle black
I've previously written that the Libs tend to be entirely incoherent when they can't make any claim to votes by default - and that the lead in the polls earned by Tom Mulcair and the NDP raised a real possibility that would happen again.
But I'll readily acknowledge that this goes far beyond my expectations.
Yes, for those scoring along at home: the federal leader of the Liberal Party is trying to score political points by noting another federal leader's past association with a Liberal Party.
I suppose that's one way to take "they're all the same" messaging to a ludicrous extreme. (And heck, it evenapplies to Stephen Harper as well.) But if having once joined the Libs is a problem, surely voters will take the cue not to make that mistake now.
http://accidentaldeliberations.blogspot.ca/2015/06/the-abyss-calling-ket...
Sat, 2015-06-27 16:40
#79
Gary Shaul
This is a critical moment in Canadian history. A qualitative turn in Canadian politics and policies can only happen if the the Cons lose their majority and the NDP come out of this election with more seats than the Liberals. Then we can hopefully get proportional representation and be able to actually read significant meaning into the national poll in the future.
Sat, 2015-06-27 18:43
#80
As opposed to the old Liberal do nothing but talk the talk, but not walk the talk, approach.
Kenora NDP candidate promises fresh approach to First Nations
http://www.tbnewswatch.com/News/372713/Kenora_NDP_candidate_promises_fre...
Sat, 2015-06-27 18:52
#81
You are doing one hell of a job Justin!
No wonder voters don't trust the Liberals.
The abyss calling the kettle black
I've previously written that the Libs tend to be entirely incoherent when they can't make any claim to votes by default - and that the lead in the polls earned by Tom Mulcair and the NDP raised a real possibility that would happen again.
But I'll readily acknowledge that this goes far beyond my expectations.
Yes, for those scoring along at home: the federal leader of the Liberal Party is trying to score political points by noting another federal leader's past association with a Liberal Party.
I suppose that's one way to take "they're all the same" messaging to a ludicrous extreme. (And heck, it evenapplies to Stephen Harper as well.) But if having once joined the Libs is a problem, surely voters will take the cue not to make that mistake now.
http://accidentaldeliberations.blogspot.ca/2015/06/the-abyss-calling-ket...
It would be better if you could link to the actual ad rather than a blog about the ad.
I was amused by this link you provided.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/25/justin-trudeau-faces-his-m...
But Mulcair has made great strides in his effort to redefine the NDP as a pro-business, low-tax, fiscally conservative party with a social conscience — exactly the ground that the Liberals have historically occupied.
Indeed, (as Trudeau noted), Mulcair — a former Quebec Liberal cabinet minister — joined the Liberal party long before he did.
So given the choice between these two small-l liberal leaders, why should voters dissatisfied with Prime Minister Stephen Harper choose Trudeau?
Sun, 2015-06-28 01:37
#82
Talk is cheap, and it is what people do that counts. Trudeau and Harper voted for C51 so both their political careers will be over in October.
Sun, 2015-06-28 20:05
#83
Our mainstream press is very biased in favour of the right-wing Liberals and Conservatives. Have a look at how these headlines are all so negative on Mulcair and so positive on right-wing leaders like Trudeau. This my friends is a good example of how Trudeau defines fairness.
Mulcair
Trudeau faces his Mulcair problem
Mulcair has no lesssons to give
Mulcair's green nitemare
Mulcair benefits from sparce scrutiny
Mulcair's opportunism
Despite Quebec opposition Mulcair to
Trudeau
Trudeau 'extremely serene'
Trudeau meets
Liberals slam
Statement by
Trudeau lays out
Trudeau blames
It's too early to write off Trudeau
Trudeau faces his Mulcair problem
Can Justin fix
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Sun, 2015-06-28 20:26
#84
alan smithee
Welcome to the Trudeau show.
What about your buddy Harper? The MSM is against him? Of course not. All Conservatives think the media is Liberal.Including you.
Sun, 2015-06-28 20:43
#85
alan, it's sickening how much the media supports primarily the right-wing Liberals, so just go back to sleep, for goodness sakes.
Harper
Harper has altered Canada
Cheaters on Harper's watch
comes back to bite Harper
Harper's ex-assistant sprung on $5k bail
Without his cabinet stars Harper left
Sun, 2015-06-28 21:21
#86
Not too hard and not too soft: Why Mulcair suddenly has a real shot at becoming Canada's next PM
Polls confirm that if a federal election were held today, Thomas Mulcair would become Canada’s 23rd prime minister. This is unchartered territory
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Sun, 2015-06-28 23:59
#87
alan smithee
alan, it's sickening how much the media supports primarily the right-wing Liberals, so just go back to sleep, for goodness sakes.
Harper
Harper has altered Canada
Cheaters on Harper's watch
comes back to bite Harper
Harper's ex-assistant sprung on $5k bail
Without his cabinet stars Harper left
That's all true.
Again,your insinuation about the anti-Harper crowd hating him for imaginary reasons was extremely offensive.
The reason to hate him is pages long and,admittedly,I personally have a lot to lose if this prick is re-elected.You think I hate him because I hate his helmet hair? I suggest you apologize to all of us in that anti-Harper camp.It was an ignorant comment.
As for being blinded by hate,I suggest you take a look in the mirror. Trudeau is not in a poosition of power and never was.So why attack him 24/7? Because you hate his hair? I'm sure you have reasons just as I have reasons to hate Harpo.
BTW,you also called me a hardcore Liberal proving that you don't know what you're talking about.But if you want to believe that,I could care less.
And I don't think I need to remind you that the Canadian MSM always sides with the corporate parties. So why the outrage and shock?
Mon, 2015-06-29 00:04
#88
Anyone who is defending, supporting or expressing concern for the right-wing Liberals after they voted for C51 is what again?
Mon, 2015-06-29 00:11
#89
alan smithee
Anyone who is defending, supporting or expressing concern for the right-wing Liberals after they voted for C51 is what again?
The same as those defending,supporting and admiring the far right Conservatives after they wrote C-51. Hypocrite.
Again,when are you going to retract that offensive comment about the anti-Harper group of voters?
Mon, 2015-06-29 01:10
#90
Not too hard and not too soft: Why Mulcair suddenly has a real shot at becoming Canada's next PM
Polls confirm that if a federal election were held today, Thomas Mulcair would become Canada’s 23rd prime minister. This is unchartered territory
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You made a boo boo. That headline is positive about Mulcair. I've seen quite a few more. I have read tons of negative articles about Trudeau. I would say funny you missed them but they are often links you provided.
Mon, 2015-06-29 12:03
#91
Why I am not impressed by Trudeau’s ‘real change’
As a longtime supporter of proportional representation, I suppose that I can take some solace in the fact that the Liberals are finally talking about electoral reform. It seems to have taken an historic beating in the last election and a more recent plunge to a distant third place in opinion polls for this to happen, but we are finally here—Canada’s two main opposition parties both agree that first past the post has to go.
http://www.hilltimes.com/letters-to-the-editor/2015/06/29/why-i-am-not-i...
Mon, 2015-06-29 13:19
#92
Agreed.
This can be said succinctly: Clips of people being killed shouldn’t be used as campaign fodder
Generally speaking, political attack ads fall into one of three categories. There are the overly dramatic, unintentionally hilarious kind, which brazenly distort fact to the point of parody (see “Engage Canada”) or hire catalogue actors to recite talking points in one of many bizarre or unrealistic scenarios. Then there are the easily forgotten ones, which […]
Mon, 2015-06-29 13:24
#93
Agreed unless the NDP get elected and put a stop to Liberal and Conservative big money buying the elections.
Despite HarperPAC’s demise, private political ads here to stay
http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/1295626-leger-despite-harperpac%E2%...
Mon, 2015-06-29 13:49
#94
Keep your eye on Harper as we probably haven't seen anything yet.
NDP with 98% Chance of Winning
On this topic, it seems the real race right now is for second place. Although the Conservatives clearly have an edge for this second place with roughly a 2/3 chances over the Liberals.
Mon, 2015-06-29 13:55
#95
This is ridiculous and is a personal attack. Cut it out please.NR,come out of the closet already.Not only are you a Conservative but you admire Stephen Harper.
I take huge offense to your insinuation that the anti-Harper crowd hate him for imaginary reasons.
You're either delusional or a Tory. Which one is it,NR?
Mon, 2015-06-29 14:02
#96
Keep your eye on Harper as we probably haven't seen anything yet.
NDP with 98% Chance of Winning
On this topic, it seems the real race right now is for second place. Although the Conservatives clearly have an edge for this second place with roughly a 2/3 chances over the Liberals.
Yes, if the election were tomorrow, but it isn't. Bookies gave Brazeau 3 to 1 odds against Trudeau. If there had only been one round they might have been right.
We are at the beginning of round 2.
Mon, 2015-06-29 14:15
#97
Don't you love the Liberal bravado. The only problem with the match, is that there were two right-wingers in the ring and Brazeau, seeing what an embarassment he is for the Cons, was proably a ringer. Next time trying taking on someone from the NDP.
It does indeed sound like Liberal desperation though, trying to equate boxing match results with a Canadian federal election.
Mon, 2015-06-29 14:20
#98
NR,come out of the closet already.Not only are you a Conservative but you admire Stephen Harper.
I take huge offense to your insinuation that the anti-Harper crowd hate him for imaginary reasons.
You're either delusional or a Tory. Which one is it,NR?
Maybe you think you're giving to him what he's had coming but these posts of yours are just as weak as his old posts calling you a Liberal shill. Surely you can do better.
Mon, 2015-06-29 14:23
#99
It does indeed sound like Liberal desperation though, trying to equate boxing match results with a Canadian federal election.
It's revealing that Trudeau's fortunes in the Liberal party rose because he won a charity boxing match. It's not like he took a brave political stance or had a huge accomplishment. When the time came, it was quite the opposite.
Mon, 2015-06-29 14:38
#100
By-the-way, when is Trudeau going to pay back all the money he got from speaking engagements while sitting as an MP?
Mon, 2015-06-29 15:10
#101
By-the-way, when is Trudeau going to pay back all the money he got from speaking engagements while sitting as an MP?
Never. MPs are allowed to continue working privately. He was engaged through a Speaker's Bureau not as an MP. When he decided to take a run for the leadership he stopped accepting bookings.
Maybe there should be a rule preventing MPs from continuing to work privately once they are MPs but if there were now there was no such rule before. Trudeau offered to pay back anyone who asked for it and none did.
The NDP on the other hand has a problem on it's hands:
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/house-board-wants-satellite-offic...
The House of Commons board that monitors MP spending will ask the Federal Court to fast-track a case launched by a group of NDP MPs after they were told to pay back $2.7 million over the satellite office scandal.
Lawyers representing the Board of Internal Economy are expected to request that the court expedite the MPs’ legal challenge, which claimed the board didn’t have legal standing to demand repayment.
The NDP launched the case last fall but asked that proceedings be suspended while the MPs attempted to negotiate a settlement. The proceedings have been on hiatus since March.
Although the board didn’t initiate the legal challenge, it wants the case resolved before the election.
The NDP talks big but they aren't eagar to to face a judge. Why did they suspend the court challenge? Did they expect the Conservatives to relent?