No I don't. Had the Liberals voted against C51 it would still have passed. It made no practical difference. They didn't write it and if they are elected they will change it.
Yes, we need the Supreme Court of Canada to step in and protect us from the Liberal Party of Canada. And this is the party you support.No, because the bill would have passed anyway because Harper has a majority. I'm surprised you don't know that.
And even with those amendments it will still be a shocking and inexcusable curtailment of our rights. So why do you keep bringing it up?You don't know that, and you are the one fixated on C 51.
Yes, my point is that it isn't a deal-breaker for you, while to point to things like the Sherbrooke Declaration as a deal-breaker for the NDP. The vastness of the cognitive dissonance you display is staggering. If you mean the things you say, one can only conclude that you have a breathtaking lack of perspective, but it's far more likely that you're just full of shit and don't really care about any issue, except defending the corrupt Liberal Party at all costs.If the Liberals win the election they will change the bill to comply with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. If the NDP wins they will repeal it. So from my perspective the matter is settled.
I'm not going to have the Sherbrooke Declaration argument all over again. It's been done to death.
You don't trust the Liberals no matter who the leader is, I don't trust Mulcair's NDP. It's pretty much a dead end. Neither of us is going to convert.
The difference between us is that I can see people who vote for/support different political parties as good people even if I think they are misguided. Your enmity and arrogance radiate off you.
When something is wrong, it is important for people to speak up and act up. The more who do so, the easier it is to gain momentum to stop what's wrong. The NDP, along with many judges, past prime ministers, the Green Party, and others, have helped turn the tide against this awful piece of legislation. If the NDP had acted like the Liberals, it would have made it hopeless to reverse this law. By taking a principled stand, the NDP have given a focus for those who do not wish to have a severe loss of civil liberties now (rather than when, years later, it goes through the courts, as you bizarrely suggest is the solution).
Yup. This is the opposite of what happened in the US, where the Democrats essentially supported the Iraq war initially, then started to (maybe) oppose the war once popular support for it collapsed. As a result, the Republicans were able to (accurately) portray the Democrats as weak flip-floppers and the Democrats were not able to capitalize on this important issue. Had the NDP supported C-51, it would have gone forward much more strongly and there would have been little to stop it.