Rebel Cofounder Quits, Citing ‘Lack of Editorial and Behavioural Judgment’

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Tue, 2017-08-15 20:04

NorthReport

"Lack of Editiorial and Behavioral Judgment". Ya think!

Rebel Cofounder Quits, Citing ‘Lack of Editorial and Behavioural Judgment’

Brian Lilley ‘no longer comfortable’ at conservative media organization.

Editor's note: Brian Lilley, a former Sun News Network correspondent who helped found The Rebel in 2015 with Ezra Levant, and whose column runs in 30 Canadian newspapers, yesterday announced his exit from the conservative media organization, saying he is “not comfortable being associated with a group that, rightly or wrongly, is being increasingly viewed as associated with the likes of Richard Spencer.”

Spencer is a white nationalist who spoke at last weekend’s “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, which ended in the death of a young woman named Heather Heyer, a counter-protester. A correspondent from The Rebel covered the event, prompting Levant to publish a “staff memo” attempting to distance the organization from the white supremacy and racism that inspired the rally and which, he argued, has taken over the “alt right.”

It wasn’t enough for Lilley. “What anyone from The Rebel was doing at a so-called ‘unite the right’ rally that was really an anti-Semitic white power rally is beyond me,” he wrote. Lilley’s full resignation letter is below.]

https://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2017/08/15/Rebel-Cofounder-Quits/

Tue, 2017-08-15 20:14

Mr. Magoo

I doubt he's going to come out swinging for nationalized barbershops, but it seems like a principled decision.

Tue, 2017-08-15 21:32

pookie

More have joined the bandwagon, like Barbara Kay.

Alot of the resignations are very solicitous of the site, and Ezra. The overall tone is one of "I'm so sorry it had to end this way."

Tue, 2017-08-15 22:02

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Ken Burch

Mr. Magoo wrote:

I doubt he's going to come out swinging for nationalized barbershops, but it seems like a principled decision.

You do realize nobody on the 21st Century Left supports anything remotely comparable to the barbershop thing, right?. How long are you going to bash current leftists for something a few people backed DECADES ago?

It was half-funny the first fifteen times...now you're beating a fossilized horse.

It's the Right that's the problem in this era, not the Left.

Tue, 2017-08-15 22:13

Mr. Magoo

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You do realize nobody on the 21st Century Left supports anything remotely comparable to the barbershop thing, right?. How long are you going to bash current leftists for something a few people backed DECADES ago?

This is from 2010, seven years ago:

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Cuba's centrally planned socialist economy is getting a trim: hundreds of state-owned barbershops and beauty salons are being handed over to employees and, in effect, privatised.

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It was half-funny the first fifteen times...now you're beating a fossilized horse.

I'm not expecting a laugh out of you or anyone else. I just use the silly idea as a good "shorthand" for when state ownership gets, well, silly.

Do you agree it was silly? If not, why shouldn't I keep mentioning it?

Tue, 2017-08-15 22:46

NorthReport

Hopefully it will be bye, bye!

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/08/15/is-this-the-beginning-of-...

Wed, 2017-08-16 01:36

(Reply to #6) #7

Ken Burch

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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You do realize nobody on the 21st Century Left supports anything remotely comparable to the barbershop thing, right?. How long are you going to bash current leftists for something a few people backed DECADES ago?

This is from 2010, seven years ago:

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Cuba's centrally planned socialist economy is getting a trim: hundreds of state-owned barbershops and beauty salons are being handed over to employees and, in effect, privatised.

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It was half-funny the first fifteen times...now you're beating a fossilized horse.

I'm not expecting a laugh out of you or anyone else. I just use the silly idea as a good "shorthand" for when state ownership gets, well, silly.

Do you agree it was silly? If not, why shouldn't I keep mentioning it?

Here's what you're missing. Cuba didn't START having nationalized barbershops seven years ago-Cuba STOPPED having nationalized barbershops seven years ago. As of seven years ago It's something even the Cuban Communist Party NO LONGER SUPPORTS. Raul Freaking Castro himself saw the absurdity of the idea. As a result, even in Cuba, it's a dead idea.

Not only is the nationalization of barbershops a dead idea even in Cuba, it was never a live idea among leftists in Canada, Britain, Europe, or the U.S. Knowing all of that, as you did the whole time, why would you insist on demanding that everybody renounce an idea none of us were guilty of supporting? What's the point?

I and everybody else on Babble agree that the state shouldn't own EVERYTHING. In all liklihood Lenin and Trotsky agreed with that. Can you name anything anyone on the left TODAY advocates that's even remotely close to the tonsorial strawman(hairman?) you are so fixated on?

It sounds way the hell too much like you want the rest of us to jump through hoops trying to prove we're not "card-carrying Communists" or something. You're better than that, Magoo.

Wed, 2017-08-16 08:00

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pookie

Mr. Magoo wrote:

I doubt he's going to come out swinging for nationalized barbershops, but it seems like a principled decision.

I sort of thought that at first, but now I see these resignations are purely opportunistic. Charlottesville is throwing alot of this stuff into unflattering relief, but the Rebel was exactly as odious last week, last month and last year.

Wed, 2017-08-16 15:48

Mr. Magoo

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why would you insist on demanding that everybody renounce an idea none of us were guilty of supporting? What's the point?

Ken, just to be clear, I don't expect anyone to renounce (or denounce) it. And I'm well aware that it's no longer Cuban policy.

As I said, for me it's just a metaphor for ultra-orthodox socialism.

Wed, 2017-08-16 21:19

(Reply to #9) #10

Ken Burch

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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why would you insist on demanding that everybody renounce an idea none of us were guilty of supporting? What's the point?

Ken, just to be clear, I don't expect anyone to renounce (or denounce) it. And I'm well aware that it's no longer Cuban policy.

As I said, for me it's just a metaphor for ultra-orthodox socialism.

The problem with your metaphor is, hardly anyone on the Left in any part of the democratic world(or much of anywhere in the world at all) supports that level of state control or anything close to it. And no one on Babble supports that, which you should simply know that about us after all the ears you've been here. Nobody should HAVE to announce they think nationalized haircare is a silly idea, because it is also a dead idea. Every time you bring it up, it reads as though you're saying "PROVE you're not a Commie". So please, let it go already. OK?

Wed, 2017-08-16 22:10

#11

NorthReport

The Rebel's fast running out of friends. Better late than never, I suppose.

http://ipolitics.ca/2017/08/15/the-rebels-fast-running-out-of-friends-be...

Wed, 2017-08-16 22:13

#12

NorthReport

My only question here is why would one company advertise with this shithead?

Over 250 companies have now pullled ads from the Rebel says Sleeping Giants according to iPolitics.

Wed, 2017-08-16 22:20

#13

NorthReport

https://www.facebook.com/slpnggiants/

Wed, 2017-08-16 22:30

#14

Mr. Magoo

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The problem with your metaphor is, hardly anyone on the Left in any part of the democratic world(or much of anywhere in the world at all) supports that level of state control or anything close to it. And no one on Babble supports that, which you should simply know that about us after all the ears you've been here.

I do, Ken. I don't use that metaphor because I think babblers wish we could all enjoy The People's Haircut.

But it's the outer boundary. It's the fringe. It's the purest of the pure. It's the pointy part of the bell curve. So it's a good metaphor, IMHO.

I'll just say again: I don't expect anyone to renounce or denounce anything, or even react to that metaphor at all. But even as I've said that I don't expect you or anyone to swear any oaths against it (or whatever you think I'm doing) you're still all offended by it and I'm a bit puzzled why.

Wed, 2017-08-16 23:43

(Reply to #14) #15

Ken Burch

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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The problem with your metaphor is, hardly anyone on the Left in any part of the democratic world(or much of anywhere in the world at all) supports that level of state control or anything close to it. And no one on Babble supports that, which you should simply know that about us after all the ears you've been here.

I do, Ken. I don't use that metaphor because I think babblers wish we could all enjoy The People's Haircut.

But it's the outer boundary. It's the fringe. It's the purest of the pure. It's the pointy part of the bell curve. So it's a good metaphor, IMHO.

I'll just say again: I don't expect anyone to renounce or denounce anything, or even react to that metaphor at all. But even as I've said that I don't expect you or anyone to swear any oaths against it (or whatever you think I'm doing) you're still all offended by it and I'm a bit puzzled why.

It's beyond the outer boundary. It's not something that could happen even in the most extreme "ultra-revolutionary" situation. And it has sounded a lot, whether you've intended that it sound like that, as if you would like to think there are people here who secretly dream of things like that-as if you don't think we should be trusted NOT to go there. And I could see bringing it up maybe once, when you first heard of this, but it sounds as though you just can't let it go. It's not a point that needs to be made. And it doesn't really even work as satire, because satire has to have some grounding in reality.

Might the left support FREE haircuts? Yes. State-administered haircuts?...we all know what that would lead to:

So, yes, it is an absurd extreme. It's also an impossible extreme. Thanks, though, for admitting none of us would want such a thing. That's a start.

Thu, 2017-08-17 12:02

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Sean in Ottawa

pookie wrote:

Mr. Magoo wrote:

I doubt he's going to come out swinging for nationalized barbershops, but it seems like a principled decision.

I sort of thought that at first, but now I see these resignations are purely opportunistic. Charlottesville is throwing alot of this stuff into unflattering relief, but the Rebel was exactly as odious last week, last month and last year.

And what is that place but a name and an entity that can be created by a lawyer in a day? It is a brand that sees that it can no longer sell enough and will hurt those associated with it. And so the far right media will move on to a name less tainted. This is somewhat similar to the Saskatchewan Conservatives after Grant Devine rebranding as the Saskatchewan party. No real change is happening other than a burned up carcass of a name is being rejected. People will hide for a few months and the new name and entity will attract the usual suspects.

There is a market for this but the market will kill of entities and names and those people will create new ones. They will adjust as the media changes but they will be there.

Fri, 2017-08-18 10:31

#17

NorthReport

A gift from heaven says the future leader of the NDP

Rebel Media commander Ezra Levant claims he's being blackmailed

This morning, the progressive advocacy group Leadnow added one more angle to the Rebel Media story.

Its campaign director, Logan McIntosh, asked Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer about the right-wing website at a barbecue in Langley.

"I saw one of their broadcasts, and you know, anything that gives a platform to those types of obnoxious groups is certainly worth condemnation," Scheer said, according to a video on Leadnow's Facebook page.

Leadnow has launched an online petition demanding that Scheer "denounce Rebel Media and immediately cut all ties" with the website.

Rebel Media director Hamish Marshall was Scheer's campaign manager in the recent Conservative leadership campaign.

https://www.straight.com/news/949466/rebel-media-commander-ezra-levant-c...

Fri, 2017-08-18 16:01

#18

voice of the damned

Why was the Canadian left so freaked out about Rebel Media anyway? We've got lots of newspapers up here that praise Obama and Hillary, and they're just as bad as the people Rebel supports, right?

Tue, 2017-09-05 19:03

#19

NorthReport

More BS from Canada's bullshitter king!

The Big ‘If’ in The Rebel’s Censorship Claim

Two weeks after claiming site disrupted, right-wing media business has provided few answers.

https://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2017/09/05/Big-If-Rebel-Censorship-Claim/