It's tough to be the NDP when the Liberals keep encroaching on your territory
http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/ndp-identity-problems-1.4559245
It’s Tough To Be the NDP When the CBC Milks Every Opportunity It Can In It’s Attempts to Discredit the Party
Mon, 2018-03-05 11:01
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It’s Tough To Be the NDP When the CBC Milks Every Opportunity It Can In It’s Attempts to Discredit the Party
Mon, 2018-03-05 12:31
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Just another free Liberal ad by the CBC News Dept, eh!
Mon, 2018-03-05 12:32
#3
Just another free Liberal ad by the CBC News Dept, eh!
Mon, 2018-03-05 12:33
#4
Quite the progressive background, eh!
David Krayden has worked in print, radio and television journalism. He served in the Canadian Armed Forces as a public affairs officer and was employed for almost a decade as a communications specialist on Parliament Hill. He is currently the Ottawa Bureau Chief for The Daily Caller, a Washington-based news service.
Mon, 2018-03-05 12:34
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The Daily Caller
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The Daily Caller launched on January 11, 2010, as a politically conservative[4][5] news and commentary outlet and alternative to the liberal The Huffington Post, similarly featuring sections in broad range of subjects beyond politics. By late 2012, The New York Times reported that the site had quadrupled its page view and total audience and had become profitable without ever buying an advertisement for itself.[6]
Vince Coglianese has served as the publication's editor-in-chief since Carlson left to focus on his Fox News television program Tucker Carlson Tonight.[7]
Mon, 2018-03-05 16:36
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Just another free Liberal ad by the CBC News Dept, eh!
I think this is unfair. Read the article constructively. It does not ahve to be written as if by a supporter. Its statements are largely true.
The weakest part of the article is that much of it seems to be understood by Singh. The NDP has to brand itself on inequality but do this in a way more comprehensive than taxes.
The second miss on the article is that Trudeau and Trump had rhetoric aimed at the middle class but have not matched that in policy. also that middle class is not the only target: more and more people are feelng they are not meeting the floor to be considered middle class, according to a recent poll.
The article does not say that Singh has no chance but that he has to define himself in the context of Liberals taking ideas (and then not doing them effectively). If you read the article as advice instead of wanting a partisan pro-ndp spin, you can get a prescription. I am sorry but it seems you were wanting an ad for the NDP. The article was a good summary of much of what the context is for the NDP and what its challenges are. It missed the focus of inequity but got right many other things.
For the NDP to win it has to not have a cow with media like this and instead use some of these ideas, from outside of the NDP partisan bubble, to find a way to extend the appeal of the party.
I have seen soem nasty articles about the NDP, unless you are overly sensistive, this is not one of them.
Mon, 2018-03-05 18:02
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Sean, unlike you, most people only read the headlines and this headline is just another negative CBC News brush against the NDP. Wake me up when you hear something from the CBC News Dept that does not reflect negatively on the NDP.
The writer is from an extreme right-wing website in the USA. He's no fan of the NDP nor is the CBC News Dept.
Mon, 2018-03-05 19:47
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Sean, unlike you, most people only read the headlines and this headline is just another negative CBC News brush against the NDP. Wake me up when you hear something from the CBC News Dept that does not reflect negatively on the NDP.
The writer is from an extreme right-wing website in the USA. He's no fan of the NDP nor is the CBC News Dept.
Well I do not expect articles to need to be overly complementary to have some truth or purpose. This one has much more useful than bias in it. I think it is better to consider articles that are not overly fawning to get useful information.
I don't really respect people who just read headlines -- half the time they are contradicted in the story. I assume people here actually read the articles they are commenting on -- I do not think your accusation is valid here.
Mon, 2018-03-12 23:40
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Another issue but more of the same
CBC News Department distorting the News or creating Fake News
Sat, 2018-03-17 17:50
#10
Let’s expose mainstram media nonsense about Jag Singh
Sat, 2018-03-17 18:07
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Good links North Report!
Stay on it.
Sat, 2018-03-17 18:38
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http://www.cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/reporting-to-canadians/acts-and-polici...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion
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Clarifications
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Mar 12, 2018 11:31 AM PT
Sadly, I find CBC News, and all of the remains of the Mainstream News for that matter, to be a joke. I take it with a grain of salt.
Thanks for the links North Report.
Sat, 2018-03-17 18:46
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alan smithee
Could you choose a thread title and stick to that one instead of changing it so many times ?
Sat, 2018-03-17 19:14
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The right wing seems to think that the CBC is a bunch of pinko mole operatives who activate to seemingly support everything from equal marriage to socialized health care.
But the left wants a seat at that table too, so they say the CBC is mid-thigh deep in the pants pocket of the worst of the right wing.
That's where the complaints fall apart. Nobody could reasonably suggest that (let's say) employers both massively discriminate against people with ethnic names, and at the same time massively privelege people with ethnic names.
So, once and for all (and I suggest writing this, formally, into babble's TOS) is the CBC the useless shill of the right wing, or the obedient mouthpiece of the left wing? I can't keep pretending it's both at the same time.
Sat, 2018-03-17 19:20
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I think you're commenting in the wrong thread Mr. Magoo. Thread title does not mention left wing or right wing. Just the NDP party.
Sat, 2018-03-17 19:23
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I think you're commenting in the wrong thread Mr. Magoo. Thread title does not mention left wing or right wing. Just the NDP party.
Then what's a "CBC"? It mentions that thing too. And seems to think that whatever that thing is, it's acting inappropriately.
Sat, 2018-03-17 19:51
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The right wing seems to think that the CBC is a bunch of pinko mole operatives who activate to seemingly support everything from equal marriage to socialized health care.
But the left wants a seat at that table too, so they say the CBC is mid-thigh deep in the pants pocket of the worst of the right wing.
So, once and for all (and I suggest writing this, formally, into babble's TOS) is the CBC the useless shill of the right wing, or the obedient mouthpiece of the left wing? I can't keep pretending it's both at the same time.
Back before Al Franken was a pariah, he wrote (I'm paraphrasing from memory) that asking whether the media have a left- or right-wing bias is like asking what kind of hummus al-Qaeda likes. The problem with al-Qaeda, he said, is that they want to kill us; the problem with the media is that they get paid by people who want to sell us things.
Along those lines, my perception is that the CBC has a mild bias in favour of the Liberal party, as much because they have Liberal insiders on speed-dial for press-ready quotes and narratives whenever they want as anything else. The Liberals have been playing the media game for a very long time, and they're better at it than the Tories and the NDP combined. That isn't to say that the CBC is stacked with Liberal operatives, or that they automatically print the Liberal spin. I'd just immigrated to Canada when the CBC went wall-to-wall with the sponsorship scandal, complete with Rex Murphy saying there was no point in having elections if Canadians wouldn't kick the Liberals out over this. They weren't eager for Harper to abolish their subsidies, but their overwhelming incentive, as with American media, is ratings. (Hence the American "left-wing media", PBS and MSNBC included, covering Trump all the time.)
What this means as far as coverage of the NDP is that they were quite happy to build up Singh as the unstoppable juggernaut who'd revolutionize Canadian politics before the vote, to the extent of seeming surprised there were other candidates, and now that he's taken over, they're just as eager to tear him down as the Sikh trojan horse who prays to the Air India bomber every night. (In particular, if he loses in Québec, it's because Québecers are racist, while if he loses in the 905, it's because Ontarians are properly suspicious of religious fundamentalism. It makes a convenient narrative in both cases.)
The CBC doesn't need to be a Pravda-style direct propaganda organ for one party or wing to have biases that are worth examining.
Sat, 2018-03-17 20:24
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Along those lines, my perception is that the CBC has a mild bias in favour of the Liberal party, as much because they have Liberal insiders on speed-dial for press-ready quotes and narratives whenever they want as anything else.
Or maybe it's got something to do with the idea that while some people cannot abide "mild" chicken wings, because they're too bland for words and others cannot abide "burn-your-anus Suicide wings" because they're way too hot and seem more like a fratboy dare than a food item, "medium" wings remain popular.
Sure, if we want, we can ridicule those who want something in between too mild and too spicy, but what if, like other "curves of normal distribution", the wishy-washy middle just had it right?
Where's the love for a chicken wing that's not so hot you have hallucinations and not so mild that you think it was boiled?
Sat, 2018-03-17 21:21
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That'd be an easier argument to swallow if the NDP were led by Barry Wiesleder and ran on a platform of nationalizing everything and executing the bourgeoisie, or indeed, if the CBC hadn't praised Trudeau for running to the left of the NDP in 2015 (and didn't continue to praise Wynne for "running so far left the NDP has no reason to exist").
Sat, 2018-03-17 21:38
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So in other words, don’t blame the cbc for their bias, blame those medium chicken wings! Thanks for explaining it to us simpletons with culinary creative expressions. But u still didin’t define your left wing analogy of super hot to bland as either right or left wing (if that makes sense
Sat, 2018-03-17 22:12
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But u still didin’t define your left wing analogy of super hot to bland as either right or left wing (if that makes sense
It doesn't matter whether "burn your ass hot" is analogous to the far right wing or the far let wing.
I'm only suggesting that the bulk of the electorate, pretty much by definition, doesn't support the wee pointy point of the bell curve on the one side, nor the wee pointy point of the bell curve on the other.