Ontario Election June 7, 2018

NorthReport wrote:

 

 

Beleaguered Wynne joins Ford on anti-NDP bandwagon, warning Andrea Horwath’s party would be bad for business

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/05/29/wynne-pledges-to-pump...

The great thing about Liberals is their ideological “flexibility.”

NorthReport wrote:

Andrea needs to start asking Liberals for their vote to defeat Ford. Not much time left.

Basically Andrea need to repeat what Kathleen Wynne said in 2014, word for word. Except substitute the name "Tim Hudak" for "Doug Ford" and saying not vote Liberal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfn2WDzLzAs

NorthReport wrote:

Andrea needs to start asking Liberals for their vote to defeat Ford. Not much time left.

No absolutely she does not.

People can see and where it makes a difference figure it out themselves. It will look bad for Andrea if she does this. It will get used against the NDP in future elections and the NDP does not believe in this excepting in the ridings it would make a difference and there are very few of them and the people living there are able to see it for themselves.

I suspect that this has already happened which is why the Liberal vote may be more consolidated than people realize meaning they may hold more seats than anyone is predicting.

Doug Ford says his entire platform is on the PC Party Website

But don't waste your time looking for the PC numbers with their platform, because to do you need to give up your data info. Name, email address and check a box whether you will support Doug Ford or not.

NorthReport wrote:

I wonder if the Toronto Star or the CBC will ever publish an article without taking shots in some way, as they always manage to slide it in, at the NDP.

For victory, NDP needs young supporters to ride the ‘orange wave’ to election polls, expert says

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/05/28/for-victory-ndp-needs...

Just like in the United States, the press wants Ford to win. He is much more exciting for journalists to cover and (though I have no evidence) it would probably boost newspaper circulations and supper time news ratings. Trump has already done that for USA outlets

The bottom line is money. If Ford can increase their circulation numbers and ratings (who doesn't want to witness a train wreck), it means higher profits for them. That is why they are being such apoligists for Ford, glossing over many of his questionable candidates and links to Rebel Media and other 3rd Party Conservative Groups.

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Mighty Middle wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

I wonder if the Toronto Star or the CBC will ever publish an article without taking shots in some way, as they always manage to slide it in, at the NDP.

For victory, NDP needs young supporters to ride the ‘orange wave’ to election polls, expert says

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/05/28/for-victory-ndp-needs...

Just like in the United States, the press wants Ford to win. He is much more exciting for journalists to cover and (though I have no evidence) it would probably boost newspaper circulations and supper time news ratings. Trump has already done that for USA outlets

The bottom line is money. If Ford can increase their circulation numbers and ratings (who doesn't want to witness a train wreck), it means higher profits for them. That is why they are being such apoligists for Ford, glossing over many of his questionable candidates and links to Rebel Media and other 3rd Party Conservative Groups.

This is very true.

There is nobody without an interest -- and the media likes someone who will make news. Look at the US and Trump for the same thing.

That said back in the 80s and 90s I often heard that reporters were more often Conservative or NDP but the outlets were often Liberal. We should ot assume that the interest of the outlet or editorial is the same as the beat reporter and camera people. Since the 1990s the politicization of the news rooms became more commonplace and this started with the Conrad Black outlets who demanded right of centre positions from many people who previously had been left alone. Before then you often had to read an editorial to get a sense of the outlets stance becuase other reporters were more or less free.

As the media became more desperate and readership/viewers could not be taken for granted this bias towards anything that will make news became more important. Years ago people who bought papers bought them every day. Now you need to have a reason to want to. (And of course that will be mostly online.)

People bought papers for information they could not get anywhere else. Stock prices. Sports tables. But I think what really did newspapers in the most was Craigslist. Papers used to make a fortune on classified ads. Now it is all gone.

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

Andrea needs to start asking Liberals for their vote to defeat Ford. Not much time left.

No absolutely she does not.

People can see and where it makes a difference figure it out themselves. It will look bad for Andrea if she does this. It will get used against the NDP in future elections and the NDP does not believe in this excepting in the ridings it would make a difference and there are very few of them and the people living there are able to see it for themselves.

I suspect that this has already happened which is why the Liberal vote may be more consolidated than people realize meaning they may hold more seats than anyone is predicting.

Agreed. This would be political kryptonite for the NDP.  Saying it will only get her negative impressions, bad press, and make the party look disingenuous and inconsistent.  I wonder if they can resist the urge.  Andrea going after Ford like crazy in the debate suggests that her party knows this and will avoid.

Ciabatta2 wrote:

Agreed. This would be political kryptonite for the NDP.  Saying it will only get her negative impressions, bad press, and make the party look disingenuous and inconsistent.  I wonder if they can resist the urge.  Andrea going after Ford like crazy in the debate suggests that her party knows this and will avoid.

Maybe she could say only the NDP can defeat Ford? That is what certain city councillors and NDP pundits are saying on twitter & other social media platforms. 

Mighty Middle wrote:

Ciabatta2 wrote:

Agreed. This would be political kryptonite for the NDP.  Saying it will only get her negative impressions, bad press, and make the party look disingenuous and inconsistent.  I wonder if they can resist the urge.  Andrea going after Ford like crazy in the debate suggests that her party knows this and will avoid.

Maybe she could say only the NDP can defeat Ford? That is what certain city councillors and NDP pundits are saying on twitter & other social media platforms. 

Why??? She does not need to say anything. Anyone who would react to that know already. This is a Liberal tactic to try to move pople by telling them to vote strategically and it never looks good for the NDP to try it and it does not help anyway.

Sorry to burst your bubble but my opinions are not garbage. I think you don't understand what I'm getting at is the problem.

Re: Doug Fords Lack of a Costing Platform:

Dave Hudak pledged in his campaign for the last election that he would cut 10,000 civil service jobs. He tanked in the polls.

 So Doug Ford figured that he would be clever and say that he's going to cut $6 billion dollars and it wouldn't cost anybody any jobs. 

He can't come up with any specific figures because it can't be done without sacrificing jobs and government services.