LES CANADIENS, LE POPULISME ET LA XÉNOPHOBIE

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LES CANADIENS, LE POPULISME ET LA XÉNOPHOBIE
Sean in Ottawa

NorthReport wrote:

LES CANADIENS, LE POPULISME ET LA XÉNOPHOBIE

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/special/2017/03/sondage-crop/Sonda...

Some observations:

First very little difference in levels of intolerence between Quebec and the rest of Canada. This is an essential point when the Quebec haters come out attacking Quebec on any of these issues.

Quebec seems to care more about English than the rest of Canada care about French when it comes to threats from migration. This is odd when you consider that French is clearly more endangered than English generally.

Both care more about their religion than the equality between men and women: to me this suggests information about the ideology of those who percieve a threat from immigration: They tend to be more the more religious who don't care as much about gender equality than gen pop. they also are less concerned about security -- it is a fig leaf for religious intolerence.

Anti-Synagogue and Mosque ticks up in Quebec more than elsewhere but it is important to recognize that in Quebec there is more hostility to all religions in general: opposition to Catholic Church 35 in Quebec vs 24 in ROC and Mosque 60 in Quebec vs 44 elsewhere. So Quebec is 11% more opposed to a catholic Church being built and 16% a Mosque -- not much different. It looks like Many in quebec have had it with religion in general. Makes you wonder how much of the anti-semitism and Islamaphobia is a difference in levels of anti-religion. This may be a significant part of the interpretation missing when it comes to other displays of religion.

The stats on the impression of integration is also instructive. There is an apparent prejudice against perceptions of Jewish integration - perhaps becuase of more visible orthodox? However, Quebec, which has the greatest number of Haitians see them as significantly better integrated than the rest of Canada sees them. I wonder if this is in part due to language?

Quebec has a lower opinion of the integration of Muslims in general but opinions with respect to Syrians is much closer to the ROC. Again, when seen in religious terms the numbers deteriorate.

The unease with the religious does not extend in the same way to concern about terror -- Quebec is roughly the same as the rest of Canada. Interesting is the belief that the Muslim population is about a 1/3 of the population when it is really only about 3% a factor of 10 times.

You also see lower confidence across the board in business, government and religious organizations in Quebec than elsewhere.

Across Canada a trend to trust social media over traditional media. Given potential manipulation and stories of this, interesting.

Tendencies to authoritarianism and intolerence  appear higher outside Quebec than in it -- except when it comes to religion...

 

kropotkin1951

This poll has no regional breakdown other than for some bizarre reason they isloated out Alberta in the Trump question. On the religious aspects it would seem that BC where the largest single census response to religion is No religious affiliation at 44% would be different than even Ontario at 23% let alone NFLD at 6%. Quebec's population at only 12% of the people not having a religious affliation is far more religious than the norm in the place that I live and likely would be a large factor in any differences showing up in the answers by region. IMO a Catholic from anywhere in Canada is likely to have more commonality in views about many of the questions in this poll things compared to non-religious affliated people from any of the various regions. 

Comparing Quebec to the mythical ROC is always fraught with inherent contradictions and biases, the main one being that their are two solitudes in Canada. That Quebec versus ROC viewpoint necesarily implies that a person of Acadian ancestry from Shediac, NB is not of the same culture as person from Quebec but is of the same culture as a person of Asian ancestry who grew up in Richmond BC.  Canada is a multi-faceted gem not a two dimensional plane.

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Being a Quebecer I'm going to call a spade a spade. Quebec hosts dozens of far right fascist groups. A fact that has ballooned under the authoritarian rule and racist rhetoric from the Trump administration. These groups only showed their face once in the blue moon now you hear about them almost on a daily basis.

Quebec is intolerant at worst and very right wing at best. Shame on Quebec.

Pondering

People who believe in an invisible all powerful being that they must answer to can be threatening. Many terrible things have been done in the name of religion.

The Quiet Revolution was just as much against the Catholic Church as it was against English businesses and the increasing English population. It makes sense that Quebecers would feel more strongly against all religions that appear too powerful or central to people's lives.

One of the problems the left loses  to the right on is immigration because the left is too extreme.

Canada is a country of 33 million that would be destroyed by unlimited acceptance of refugees and immigrants. We can't absorb say 50 million refugees. Our systems would collapse. That is what people think the left wants, unlimited entry of refugees. There are about 65 million refugees in the world.

People are afraid because they think around 30% of immigrants are Muslim when it is only about 3%. That is extremely important. The answer to attitudes rooted in false information is to correct the information not denigrate the fearful.

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Pondering wrote:

People who believe in an invisible all powerful being that they must answer to can be threatening. Many terrible things have been done in the name of religion.

The Quiet Revolution was just as much against the Catholic Church as it was against English businesses and the increasing English population. It makes sense that Quebecers would feel more strongly against all religions that appear too powerful or central to people's lives.

One of the problems the left loses  to the right on is immigration because the left is too extreme.

Canada is a country of 33 million that would be destroyed by unlimited acceptance of refugees and immigrants. We can't absorb say 50 million refugees. Our systems would collapse. That is what people think the left wants, unlimited entry of refugees. There are about 65 million refugees in the world.

People are afraid because they think around 30% of immigrants are Muslim when it is only about 3%. That is extremely important. The answer to attitudes rooted in false information is to correct the information not denigrate the fearful.

I agree that Canada can't cater to all these refugees. If these far right groups were honest when they say we have an obligation to feed our poor,I'd agree with them.

But I was watching the news one night where they were reporting of a demonstration by La Meute. Some of the demonstrators weren't talking about feeding our poor,they were complaining about all the halal being sold in Quebec.

Let's not forget that the mosque murderer was a Trumpster and his hatred of Muslims was just because they were Muslim.

Sounds pretty fucking racist to me.

At least one of these groups invaded a media outlet (Vice Montreal) trashing their offices all because they didn't like their press. Maybe their press wouldn't be so bad if they didn't act like the fascists they are.

And where are the police? They're in on it.

As I said,up until Trump became President,these groups would pop up once in the blue moon,now they are popping up all the time.

I have to also point out that these demonstrations and groups dominate in Quebec City and the regions.They are intolerant people and massively right wing.

I'm not going to search for excuses for them. They are what they are and they are shameful.