The murderous Israeli apartheid regime

An Israeli Education (and vid)

https://twitter.com/BitarSaif/status/1012240695430705152

https://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/1014419018717986816

"Build a house, it's like you wiped out a hundred Arabs. Build a settlement, it's like you wiped out tens of thousands of Gentiles...Arabs will be our slaves."

Free Palestine! Down with Apartheid Israel! For a national boycott!

Demolition of Khan Al Ahmar: Another Chapter in the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine  (and vid)

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1015217812309184512

"Just concluded a very positive, reassuring and in-depth meeting with PM Justin Trudeau about Canada's support for Israel..."

https://twitter.com/CIJAinfo/status/1014993967128170496

Disgusting and shameful

Breaking: Israeli Occupation Forces shut down Karm Abu Salam border crossing on the border with Gaza, which is the only commercial crossing of the Gaza Strip

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1016340638101536768

'Israel is Uninterested in Peace. The Only Solution is for Zionism to Disappear.' - Journalist

https://twitter.com/972mag/status/1015988810298089478

"Never in my entire life have I seen such hatred. The laws  in the Knesset, the racism, the fascism, the barbarism. The Zionist movement is the worst in history when it comes to sowing hatred between nations."

Canada supports: 26,000+ 'Walked With Israel' in TO in 2018. Only 200 stood against. This is the reality. The rest is BS and denial.

CIJA & 'Wisdom Wednesday'

https://twitter.com/CIJAinfo/status/1017142346893463552

"I see Israel as one of the greatest outposts of democracy in the world..."

"Where is Gaza?"
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1017397520933285888

Then Israel came calling...

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1018236102728142848

"If they were Israeli Jewish kids killed by rockets fired from Gaza their deaths would be front-page story on every American newspaper and members of Congress would be up in arms among Israel's right to defend itself."

https://twitter.com/jdakar/status/1018286490873417729

"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez reassures everyone that she's not one of THOSE socialists, Palestine edition: 'Well, I believe absolutely in Israel's right to exist. I am a proponent of a two-state solution...' Very bad news. She must not succumb to this pressure."

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1018684288269737984

If things don't work out for her there she sounds perfect for the NDP here...

Israel Declares Itself Apartheid State

https://t.co/JQ6EMy9DI3

"Today Israel declared itself to be an apartheid state. The bill explicitly states that 'The right to exercise national determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people..."

"It's reported that after the vote on the we-are-an-apartheid-state-law, aka the nation state law, Netanyahu said, 'This is our state, our anthem, our flag.' True, but it will never be your country, because it will always be Palestinian."

https://twitter.com/mikopeled/status/1019773444739694592

Israel Launches Major Assault on Gaza

https://t.co/zcuSBUABEN

"Defense minister threatens 'broad, painful military operations' and says civilians 'will pay the price'."

Video: Palestinian women and children panic as Israeli occupation war jets attack several cities in Gaza yesterday.

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1020562882629722112

Canada In Israel

https://twitter.com/CanEmbIsrael/status/1020192449166303232

Because it works...

Irish Senate Stands Up For Palestine

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1021526910067777537

Not like Canada's gutless wonders...

Israeli 'Nation State' Law Follows in Footsteps of Jim Crow, Indian Removal Act and Nuremberg Laws

https://mondoweiss.net/2018/07/israeli-footsteps-nuremberg/

"Roughly eighty years after Nazi Germany enacted what became known as the Nuremberg Laws in September,1935, Israeli lawmakers in July, 2018, have codified a new Jewish supremacy law, which effectively mirrors the Nazi-era legislation of ethnoreligious stratification of German citizenry..."

NDPP wrote:

Palestinians Have A Legal Right To Armed Struggle

https://t.co/veG23cGiyY

"It's time for Israel to accept that as an occupied people, Palestinians have the right to resist - in every way possible."

Is it time for Palestinians to accept that the State of Israel has the right to exist with security and peace?

JKR wrote:

Is it time for Palestinians to accept that the State of Israel has the right to exist with security and peace?

The "right to exist" is another one of those slippery little rhetorical tricks. It sounds eminently reasonable (if one ignores the colonial circumstances that led to Israel's original founding), until you unpack what it actually means. If it means the right for there to be a country in the current Israeli-controlled territory, all Israel has to do is grant the Palestinian majority citizenship and voting rights. They might want to change the name (say, to "Palestine"), but the country will continue to exist.

If it means the right for there to be a Jewish-majority state (a right no other ethnicity/religion has, with the possible exception of the pseudo-state Respublika Srpska), the PLO de facto accepted that in 1974, and signed a treaty to that effect in 1993 -- one Israel's ignored the provisions of. All Israel has to do is withdraw to the 1967 borders. The entire Arab League promised recognition and peace in exchange for that, repeatedly.

The problem is that what Netanyahu means by the "right to exist" is the right to continue occupying all of the territory it currently does, with the Jewish minority in control of all of it, and no rights whatsoever for the majority. His government ministers have said the idea of a Palestinian state is dead. Trump's moved the US embassy to east Jerusalem. Settlement continues apace. The Palestinians don't have a partner for peace.

Barring a major political revolution among the Jewish minority, it's going to be one state now, and eventually, that state is going to have to transition to democracy. Netanyahu stamping his feet about the "right to exist" will, at most, delay that. He has all the tools in his hands to guarantee the future existence of a Jewish state, and has instead chosen to prolong the existence of an apartheid one. Bad move on his part.

cco wrote:

JKR wrote:

Is it time for Palestinians to accept that the State of Israel has the right to exist with security and peace?

Meaning what?

The "right to exist" is another one of those slippery little rhetorical tricks. It sounds eminently reasonable (if one ignores the colonial circumstances that led to Israel's original founding), until you unpack what it actually means. If it means the right for there to be a country in the current Israeli-controlled territory, all Israel has to do is grant the Palestinian majority citizenship and voting rights. They might want to change the name (say, to "Palestine"), but the country will continue to exist.

If it means the right for there to be a Jewish-majority state (a right no other ethnicity/religion has, with the possible exception of the pseudo-state Respublika Srpska), the PLO de facto accepted that in 1974, and signed a treaty to that effect in 1993 -- one Israel's ignored the provisions of. All Israel has to do is withdraw to the 1967 borders. The entire Arab League promised recognition and peace in exchange for that, repeatedly.

The problem is that what Netanyahu means by the "right to exist" is the right to continue occupying all of the territory it currently does, with the Jewish minority in control of all of it, and no rights whatsoever for the majority. His government ministers have said the idea of a Palestinian state is dead. Trump's moved the US embassy to east Jerusalem. Settlement continues apace. The Palestinians don't have a partner for peace.

Barring a major political revolution among the Jewish minority, it's going to be one state now, and eventually, that state is going to have to transition to democracy. Netanyahu stamping his feet about the "right to exist" will, at most, delay that. He has all the tools in his hands to guarantee the future existence of a Jewish state, and has instead chosen to prolong the existence of an apartheid one. Bad move on his part.

Whatever happens, I don't think Isreal will ever agree to or go along with its own extinguishment.

There might be a majour shakeup in Israel after the next election there but I doubt it, even though I would like to see Netanyahu defeated.

Palestinian Teen Tamimi Released From Israeli Jail After 8 Months (and vid)

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/07/29/569564/Israel-Palestine-Ahed-T...

Ahed Tamimi, a Palestinian teenaged girl who gained international fame for slapping Israeli soldiers has been released from prison after serving an eight year prison sentence. Tamimi's mother, Nariman, who had also been arrested over the same incident, was similarly sentenced to 8 months in jail. Arriving at Nabi Saleh village, Tamimi made brief remarks to well-wishers outside the house of a villager killed by Israeli forces. 'From this martyr's house, I say resistance is continuing until the occupation is removed. All the female prisoners in jail are strong and I thank everyone who stood by me while I was in prison,' she added. 

A press conference is planned for later today

Free Palestine! 

JKR wrote:

NDPP wrote:

You'd have to ask the Palestinians. For myself, I thought the world had already decided that question with South Africa? Does a murderous apartheid regime such as this have a right to exist? If it does, it shouldn't.

So you don't think the State of Israel has a right to exist?

The state of South Africa still exists just not the apartheid state. The state of Israel will exist after the racist apartheid state dissappears. Any other idea is merely Zionists claiming their racist vision of the state is Israel. I want the racist state to disappear and a state to emerge that grants equal rights to all its citizens no matter what religion, if any, that they adhere to.

JKR wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

JKR wrote:

NDPP wrote:

You'd have to ask the Palestinians. For myself, I thought the world had already decided that question with South Africa? Does a murderous apartheid regime such as this have a right to exist? If it does, it shouldn't.

So you don't think the State of Israel has a right to exist?

The state of South Africa still exists just not the apartheid state. The state of Israel will exist after the racist apartheid state dissappears. Any other idea is merely Zionists claiming their racist vision of the state is Israel. I want the racist state to disappear and a state to emerge that grants equal rights to all its citizens no matter what religion, if any, that they adhere to.

If they wanted, Israeli citizens could vote to replace pro-Zionist political parties. I believe their next election is in 2019.

Unfortunately the people in the occupied territories will have no say in that election and the minority of non Zionists, of different ethnicities and religions, inside the apartheid state will be outvoted by the uber aggresive settler class that is extremely racist.

http://countercurrentnews.info/2014/07/israeli-crowd-racist-chant/

Aren't there Arab nationalist political parties in Israel that all Israelis can vote for?

voice of the damned wrote:

JKR wrote:

Aren't there Arab nationalist political parties in Israel that all Israelis can vote for?

I believe so, but cco's point was that anti-Zionist parties are banned, not arab parties.

The Arab parties are not anti-Zionist?

kropotkin1951 wrote:

JKR wrote:

voice of the damned wrote:

JKR wrote:

Aren't there Arab nationalist political parties in Israel that all Israelis can vote for?

I believe so, but cco's point was that anti-Zionist parties are banned, not arab parties.

The Arab parties are not anti-Zionist?

The voting majority is racist which is why they need loud international condemnation to make them see that the system they are supporting is immoral and repugnant.

I think the voting majority in Israel thinks they are not racist and that they are just protecting themselves from the other countries in their region that they think want to eliminate them.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

JKR wrote:

I think the voting majority in Israel thinks they are not racist and that they are just protecting themselves from the other countries in their region that they think want to eliminate them.

I think that the voting majority who elected Trump do not think they are racist merely trying to protect themselves from people from other countries who are trying to eliminate them.

The fact that Israeli's by and large are murderous towards their neighbours is the real reason they fear so deeply. Like overseers in any slave state they fear the enslaved.

Why are Jewish Israelis "murderous?"

Why are Jewish Israelis running a "slave state?"

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Why do you add the word Jewish to my posts?

I thought that was who you were referring to when you wrote "Israeli's by and large are murderous towards their neighbours." Are these Israelis you refer to not mostly Jewish?

JKR wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Why do you add the word Jewish to my posts?

I thought that was who you were referring to when you wrote "Israeli's by and large are murderous towards their neighbours." Are these Israelis you refer to not mostly Jewish?

Unlike you I don't care about people's religion I only care whether the government they support is racist and actively killing people in the occupied zone. The majority of Israeli's are not in the streets protesting this human rights disaster that appears to be as genocidal as the settling of the American West. Instead they vote for the parties that are caring out this travesty.

You should stop judging people based on their religion and instead look to their politics. Many of the small groups of protestors against this apartheid regime wear tradional religious attire that appears to an untrained eye to be from the Jewish culture. That is why this current state of Israel must disappear. France has had 5 republics why are you so determined to support this murderous version of Israel?

kropotkin1951 wrote:

JKR wrote:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Why do you add the word Jewish to my posts?

I thought that was who you were referring to when you wrote "Israeli's by and large are murderous towards their neighbours." Are these Israelis you refer to not mostly Jewish?

Unlike you I don't care about people's religion I only care whether the government they support is racist and actively killing people in the occupied zone. The majority of Israeli's are not in the streets protesting this human rights disaster that appears to be as genocidal as the settling of the American West. Instead they vote for the parties that are caring out this travesty.

You should stop judging people based on their religion and instead look to their politics. Many of the small groups of protestors against this apartheid regime wear tradional religious attire that appears to an untrained eye to be from the Jewish culture. That is why this current state of Israel must disappear. France has had 5 republics why are you so determined to support this murderous version of Israel?

I think Israel and France would both be better off if they both implemented majour reforms to their political systems but I also think it's up to the French and Israelis themselves to democratically change their respective systems.

cco wrote:

The big difference there is that the French government is elected by the vast majority of adults living in France, whereas the Israeli government is elected by the Jewish minority and a token few Arabs who are allowed to vote for Zionist parties only. The majority of people living in Israel have no voice in whether to change the system that's killing them.

The religious affiliation of the Israeli population as of 2016 was 74.7% Jewish, 17.7% Muslim, 2.0% Christian, and 1.6% Druze, with the remaining 4.1% including faiths such as Samaritanism and Baha'iism, and irreligious people with no faith.

74% is a minority? Is this by proportional representation, or first past the post?