Boycott / sanction Saudi Arabia!

Mon, 2018-08-13 16:03

NDPP

Saudis Would Only Hurt Themselves By Cancelling LAV Contract

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/saudis-would-only-...

"There are several factors playing in favour of the deal to supply the LAVs to the Saudis: The Saudis would have to pay penalties if they walk away from the deal, a pullout could hurt the country's reputation with other international trading partners and, perhaps most importantly, Riyadh wants the model of armoured vehicle that's produced in London."

"Wow. Cdn govt, under fire for almost certainly illegal arms deal to Saudi Arabia, quietly rewrites the law..."

https://twitter.com/derrickokeefe/status/760170826708549632

Another problem solved.

Mon, 2018-08-13 16:43

#203

NDPP

Empire Files: Inside Saudi Arabia

https://youtu.be/rezvemRMelQ

"Butchery, slavery & history of revolt."

Saudi Arabia Uncovered: A Documentary

https://youtu.be/NLtLeK7YLGY

"Fear has overtaken the entire population."

Wed, 2018-10-10 20:44

#204

NDPP

The Disappearance of Saudi Journalist Jamal Khashoggi and the Hypocrisy of the NYT

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/10/10/khas-o10.html

"If true, the murder of Khashoggi will be a horrific crime, underscoring the brutality of the blood-soaked Saudi dictatorship. But it will also join a long list of acts of terror and brutality carried out by the Saudi regime, very few of which have troubled the Times as much as Khashoggi's disappearance..."

Wed, 2018-10-10 21:02

#205

josh

More on the likely Khashoggi murder.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/crown-prince-sought-to-lure-khashoggi-back-to-saudi-arabia-and-detain-him-us-intercepts-show/2018/10/10/57bd7948-cc9a-11e8-920f-dd52e1ae4570_story.html?__twitter_impression=true

Thu, 2018-10-11 00:48

#206

NDPP

How US-Saudi Marriage Gave Birth to Jihad

https://t.co/vyPOB6MS23

"Attempting to use Wahhabism to our advantage, ultimately proved disastrous..."

Fri, 2018-10-12 10:31

#207

NDPP

They've Killed Thousands of Civilians in Yemen Where A Child Dies Every 10 Minutes

https://twitter.com/Fatikr/status/1049047812401500160

Yet Canada Still Sells Them Arms And Buys Their Oil

https://twitter.com/anthonyfenton/status/1050159519563698181

When Will We Stop?

Fri, 2018-10-12 15:22

#208

NDPP

TRNN: Is the US complicit in Saudi Journalist's Disappearance?

https://youtu.be/DBbRLpCo_-M

"New questions are being raised about the US role. We speak to Ali Al-Ahmed, founder and director of the Institute for Gulf Affairs..."

Saudis Must Cough Up Billions to Settle Kashoggi Case

https://t.co/PBd8LOB0Zo

The Kashoggi case, discussed here, will be moved off the news pages even faster than assumed..."

Fri, 2018-10-12 17:10

#209

josh

Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump and Kushner knew in advance, and signed off on the kidnapping if not the killing.

Fri, 2018-10-12 17:35

(Reply to #209) #210

kropotkin1951

josh wrote:

Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump and Kushner knew in advance, and signed off on the kidnapping if not the killing.

Do they still hold the weekly meetings in the oval office to determine who among their enemies they should kill, like they did in the Obama years?

Fri, 2018-10-12 19:17

#211

NDPP

Quite aside from the active and longstanding collusion of the USraeli duopoly snakes in Saudi crimes across the region and beyond - we have once again displayed in all its awfulness the participation of 'our' Canadian government. 'We' buy their dirty bloody oil and sell them billions in arms to murder Yemenis, Shia and perhaps later Iranians.

Like the Israeli atrocities which 'we' also support this is no secret to anyone in Canada, as even the domestic dogsvomit media have had to cover it somewhat. But nonetheless nothing will happen in Canada in response. If anything does it will be a top down decision based on elite interests only. There will be a zero or negligible political response from Canadians that registers in any real way upon this awful criminality. This is an unfortunate reality that smells so bad even Canadian liberal progressives won't be able to ignore its pong much longer.

For the life of me I will never understand how anyone possessed of a heart or a brain could possibly cast a vote for a political party that supports or ignores this disgusting state of affairs.

Sat, 2018-10-13 23:12

#212

NDPP

Kashoggi and The Jewish Question

https://t.co/ksIlmOvRfQ

"It is certainly not in our interests to see the status of the Saudi government diminished in Washington..."

Has any Canadian politician said anything yet?

Sat, 2018-10-13 23:22

#213

NDPP

Canada 'Clear, Strong' With Saudis on Importance of Human Rights Justin Trudeau Says

https://twitter.com/LukewSavage/status/1050832218090860545

"So, you gonna cancel the $20 billion arms shipment now or nah?"

Ask Justin...

[email protected]

Sun, 2018-10-14 11:28

#214

NDPP

Saudis Will Respond With 'Greater Action' if Sanctions Imposed Over Khashoggi

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-and-uk-threaten-1110444406

Now is the perfect time to end the Canadian arms sales. Will Canucklheads even ask?

Sun, 2018-10-14 11:42

#215

NDPP

Saudi-Led Western Backed Coalition Air Strikes Bomb Buses Kill 18 (and vid)

https://twitter.com/AhmadAlgohbary/status/1051108546656575488

"First video shows aftermath of Saudi-led coalition airstrike on 2 buses full of displaced people fleeing the coalition's assault on their village in Alras Mountain, Masbara district. Warning, graphic content."

Are you good with Canada supplying arms for this slaughter?

Sun, 2018-10-14 14:48

(Reply to #215) #216

josh

NDPP wrote:

Kashoggi and The Jewish Question

https://t.co/ksIlmOvRfQ

"It is certainly not in our interests to see the status of the Saudi government diminished in Washington..."

Has any Canadian politician said anything yet?

The Likud-Wahabbi alliance is strong. Expect AIPAC to be on the case soon.

Sun, 2018-10-14 22:02

#217

Unionist

The West’s reaction to Jamal Khashoggi’s disappearance is a disgrace

Quote:

The bottom line where that armoured vehicle deal is concerned? Three thousand jobs in Canada for 15 years and 6,000 civilian deaths in Yemen in just three years.

Still, the prime minister says he has “serious issues” about the fate of Khashoggi, and he joins Canada’s allies around the world in expressing those concerns.

But has Trudeau picked up the phone and called the prince to ask if the Saudis have evidence Khashoggi left the embassy alive?

Has Trudeau outlined what Canada will do if the Turkish government’s unequivocal claim proves true, that they have direct evidence of the journalist’s horrible demise inside the Saudi consulate?

No, he hasn’t, despite the fact Khashoggi went missing on October 2.

It’s a classic case of too little, too soon.

Mon, 2018-10-15 10:14

#218

josh

Trump playbook in action. Authoritarian he likes can never lie. Then tin foil hat. Then smearing the victim.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-sends-pompeo-saudi-arabia-meet-king-n920096

Mon, 2018-10-15 16:14

#219

josh

We only meant to kidnap and torture him, not kill him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/petersterne/status/1051927471598305280

Mon, 2018-10-15 19:45

#220

NDPP

It's bullshit. The kill-team flown in the day before, included bodyguards and thugs directly accountable to m-BS. Oh, and a forensic pathologist complete with bonesaw to help tidy up Khashoggi's loose ends and make him ready for the return trip to Riyadh.

As this same bloody bunch prepares to mass murder 13 million Yemenis by starvation siege - When will Trudeau and his Banderite side-kick Chrystia END THE ARMS? And when will Canadians demand that like they really mean it?

[email protected]

Mon, 2018-10-15 19:46

#221

NDPP

Settling the Khashoggi Case is A Difficult Matter

https://t.co/mI0UDDu4CX

"...Recently Khashoggi started a number of projects that reek of preparations for a CIA controlled color-revolution in Saudi Arabia. Khashoggi has an enormous number of friends in Washington. Mainstream journalists see him as one of their own. Some solution must be found. The easiest one is for King Salman to fire his son and to reinstate Muhammed bin Nayef, who MbS had dethroned as crown prince. Nayef is the CIA's man.

But if Salman is unwilling or unable to do this, an excuse must be found for whatever happened to Khashoggi. Some 'rogue element' of the Saudi state could admit that it killed Khashoggi. MbS would deny any knowledge. But fifteen of his most trusted men, those who were seen in Istanbul, would have to be punished. (How would the rest of his body guard react to that?)

Mohammed bin Salman has one mighty ally that might help him to decrease the noise in Congress and the 'do something' pressure on Trump. The Zionists already recognize that helping MbS is in their interest..."

PS: Jamal Khashoggi's uncle, billionaire Adnan Khashoggi, was one of the world's largest and most notorious international arms dealers, involved in the Iran/Contra scandal. His cousin, Dodi Fayed was killed in a car accident with Princess Diana. This story has gotten too big too quickly for it to be just another Saudi wet-job. Something big is planned methinks.

Tue, 2018-10-16 03:54

#222

NDPP

"As predicted: A deal is being made. NYT floats the approved cover-up story: Killing Khashoggi was an 'accident'. A 'rogue element' exceeded the given orders and inadvertently killed him. All hail MbS. It wasn't his fault."

https://twitter.com/MoonofA/status/1052039661550489600

Tue, 2018-10-16 04:29

#223

NDPP

"Even the bone saw was rogue."

https://twitter.com/asadabukhalil/status/1052013655821172736

Tue, 2018-10-16 06:31

#224

voice of the damned

Just from a quick glance of their coverage, I wouldn't say the NYT is giving the theory uncritical applause...

But the theory was widely dismissed among Mr. Khashoggi’s friends, human rights advocates and some on Capitol Hill, who noted that Saudi officials had denied his death for two weeks — including assertions by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman last week and the king himself on Monday.

“Been hearing the ridiculous ‘rogue killers’ theory was where the Saudis would go with this,” Senator Christopher S. Murphy, Democrat of Connecticut, wrote in a Twitter post. “Absolutely extraordinary they were able to enlist the President of the United States as their PR agent to float it.”

https://tinyurl.com/y7csljv5

Tue, 2018-10-16 08:36

#225

josh

Not extraordinary these days. Trump launders statements from authoritarians on a regular basis. Whether it be MBS, Putin, Kim, Netanyahu, al-Sisi, etc.

Tue, 2018-10-16 08:32

#226

josh

The point of the bullshit Saudi story isn't for you to believe it. They know you know it's false. The point is to give some kind of cover to all the business, political and media elites (including the US Govt) to continue to do business with them once the rage dissipates.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1051979653936758784

Tue, 2018-10-16 09:32

#227

josh

Yes, and then we cut him up . . . ha ha ha.

Tue, 2018-10-16 10:37

#228

NDPP

Yemen is On The Brink of Becoming The Worst Famine In 100 Years

https://twitter.com/jenpeders/status/1052003321152585728

"Yemen is on the brink of becoming the worst famine in 100 years. And we are still sending the Saudis weapons made in CANADA, US, UK, Germany, Spain...We are ALL complicit."

While Yemen Burns (and vid)

https://twitter.com/anthonyfenton/status/1052003321152585728

"While Yemen burns with significant help from Canadian arms companies, Canadian media, think tanks and academic elites are climbing over each other to give this guy a platform."

Yemen's Blood Is On Your Hands Canada. Stop Selling Them Weapons!

[email protected]

Tue, 2018-10-16 13:38

#229

NDPP

Deal Will Blame Khashoggi Death on Extreme Torture

https://t.co/l8sqWRmWQx

"The coverup of the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, killed on behalf of the Saudi clown prince Mohammed bin Salman, proceeds apace. It is part of a deal between Turkey and Saudi Arabia under the aegis of the United States. The haggling over the details will take a while. An open question is the future of clown prince MbS. The 'deep-state' wants him to leave.

Trump sent secretary of state Pompeo to facilitate negotiations between the Saudis and Turks. Ambassador James Jeffrey, the special representative for Syria engagement is joining him in the endeavor. The Saudis finance the Kurdish proxy force the US uses for its occupation of northeast Syria. One of Erdogan's demands will be that any such support ends.

Trump is a businessman. The US help for cleaning up the mess MbS caused will not come cheap. He will press the Saudis to sign more weapons deals. He will urge them to stick to random killing of Yemeni civilians. In the view of the Washington establishment causing the famine of millions of dark-skinned people is a lesser sin than touching a journalist and operative they perceive as onen of their own."

Tue, 2018-10-16 14:01

#230

NDPP

The Saudis Also Have Cards To Play : Don't Believe the Official Faux Theatrics of Outrage.

US Sanctions on Riyadh Would Mean Washington is Stabbing Itself

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/features/2018/10/14/US-sanctions-on-Riy...

"...If US sanctions are imposed on Saudi Arabia, we will be facing an economic disaster that would rock the entire world. Riyadh is the capital of its oil. If the price of oil reaching $80 angered President Trump, no one should rule out the price jumping to $100, or $200 or even double that figure. An oil barrel may be priced in a different currency, Chinese yuan perhaps instead of the dollar. And oil is the most important commodity traded by the dollar today...These are simple procedures, that are part of 30 others, that Riyadh will implement directly, without flinching an eye if sanctions are imposed. The truth is that if Washington imposes sanctions on Riyadh, it will stab its own economy to death..."

Sanctions & Boycott Now!

Tue, 2018-10-16 14:15

#231

josh

But the smiley, jovial images coming out of the meeting are sending a message that one man’s life is less valuable than the sale of weapons to a country known for its funding of terrorist activity.

https://secondnexus.com/news/photo-mike-pompeo-shakes-hands-and-greets-s...

Tue, 2018-10-16 16:37

#232

Michael Moriarity

Here is an interesting interview on TRNN with a California political science professor of Lebanese origin, who says that Khashoggi was in no sense a dissident or opponent of the Saudi monarchy, he simply picked the wrong prince to ally with. Also, Khashoggi apparently told a very different story when he wrote in Arabic than when he wrote in English.

Tue, 2018-10-16 17:47

#233

NDPP

Jamal Khashoggi's Killing Took 7 Minutes, Turkish Source Tells MEE

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-khashoggi-829291552

"Middle East Eye publishes first details of audio tape acquired by Turkish investigators probing what happened to Saudi journalist. 'It took seven minutes for Jamal Khashoggi to die. The consul himself was taken out of the room. There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him..." [GRAPHIC]

Tue, 2018-10-16 18:51

#234

NDPP

From Justin & Chrystia to their Saudi Customers

https://twitter.com/micknello23/status/1052325651460579328

"Dear Saudi Arabia,

You know those technologically advanced weapons of mass destruction we keep selling you? Yes, well, please don't use them for anything nasty. You won't? Good chaps! All the best, keep up the excellent work. Yours J&C

Trudeau and Freeland, just like Trump, obviously seek above all else to keep the bloody Saudi cash flowing into their coffers. The participation in the Yemeni slaughter-fest is obviously not a problem for any of these murderous Saudi accomplices/enablers.

Canadian Arms Out! Canadian Aid In! Boycott Saudi! End the War on Yemen Now!

Tue, 2018-10-16 19:38

#235

josh

https://mobile.twitter.com/eha_news/status/1052296138349576192

Tue, 2018-10-16 20:08

#236

kropotkin1951

Its clear that Putin must be involved in this murder.

Tue, 2018-10-16 23:54

#237

bekayne

Wed, 2018-10-17 01:34

#238

NDPP

Moderate Rebels: Saudi Arabia's Murderous Rampage (and vid)

https://t.co/kTESoLhc2c

Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton interview Saudi dissident Ali al-Ahmed. Canada's contribution to Saudi attacks cited @46:00.

Trump Backs Saudi Arabia, Suggesting 'Rogue Killers' Murdered Khashoggi

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/10/16/khash-o16.html

"...For decades, successive US administrations, Democrat and Republican, have maintained the closest relations with Saudi Arabia, turning a blind eye to their repressive, anti-democratic regime at home and their criminal actions abroad. The trenchant criticism of Trump over the Khashoggi killing is bound up with tactical differences in the US political and military establishment over his unilateral abrogation of the 2015 Iran nuclear agreement, which has alienated America's European allies, and his confrontational stance towards China.

The unending allegations of 'Russian interference' in the 2016 presidential elections are aimed at confronting Russia, rather than China first, as the US seeks to maintain its global dominance. Those who denounce Trump for absolving the Saudi regime without any evidence, have been in the forefront of unsubstantiated accusations of Russian meddling in American politics. In the end, once the Khashoggi affair has dropped out of the headlines, there is little doubt that Washington will come together to reaffirm relations with Saudi Arabia."

Wed, 2018-10-17 01:59

#239

WWWTT

This alleged Khashoggi death murder is very odd. Making this subject unusually interesting.

This allegedly happened in Turkey? Not too long ago, this country was turning NATO on its end! Facing US sanctions for their purchase of the Russian S-400 missile defence system and possibly advanced Russian fighter jets. And on top of that US tariffs were levied against Turkey to cause chaos to the Turkish economy.

Turkey joined Russia Iran alliance to resolve Syria conflict and help Assad

Turkey was very vocal about seeking alliances away from NATO and the west!

But now all of a sudden Turkish government are the good guys rushing to the defence of human rights in Saudia Arabia?

I call fuckin bullshit!

This is a western corporate media propaganda stunt!

Beware what you read!

I speculate that NATO/Saudia Arabia/Israel alliance is facing a huge problem coming from China Russia India Iran Turkey Pakistan possibly Venezuela Brazil Indonesia are also involved?

Maybe US is looking for a graceful way of diverting attention away from the massive NATO loss in Syria? Similar to how Nixon visited China when it became obvious that the US will never win any war against communist China and its better to kiss China’s ass than lose trillions of dollars!

Wed, 2018-10-17 03:08

#240

voice of the damned

But now all of a sudden Turkish government are the good guys rushing to the defence of human rights in Saudia Arabia?

You're assuming, of course, that Turkey's motivations in all of this are entirely related to how they want to position themselves in regards to the major power blocs. But there could be other factors at play, like for example, just thinking "Umm, somebody was probably murdered in a consulate housed on Turkish soil. Maybe we should say something about this."

Wed, 2018-10-17 03:55

#241

voice of the damned

As for Turkey now being one of the "good guys", no country in NATO is likely to have ever been seen as much of a "bad guy" by other NATO countries, or the west generally. So closer relations between the US and Turkey isn't really comparable to the 1970s rapprochment between Communist China and the US, two countries that had been at each other's throat since the late 1940s.

Wed, 2018-10-17 04:22

(Reply to #241) #242

WWWTT

voice of the damned wrote:

But now all of a sudden Turkish government are the good guys rushing to the defence of human rights in Saudia Arabia?

You're assuming, of course, that Turkey's motivations in all of this are entirely related to how they want to position themselves in regards to the major power blocs. But there could be other factors at play, like for example, just thinking "Umm, somebody was probably murdered in a consulate housed on Turkish soil. Maybe we should say something about this."

No that’s not my point. The point I’m making is how the western corporate media is spinning this.

Seriously, you think this Saudi journalist is the first person ever alleged to have been murdered in such fashion? We only know what the media tells us basically. I’m sure there was thousands murdered for similar reasons but we will never know because it’s been covered up by governments.

But all of a sudden now that’s not the case anymore is it?

Wed, 2018-10-17 10:31

#243

josh

The guy was writing for the Washington Post. That’s why it’s a big deal for the media.

As for Turkey, they get something out of it because, if they play ball, and don’t make a big stink, both the Saudis and U.S. will owe them. Not to mention the positive publicity they’ll get in the western media for “unveiling” the murder.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/turkey-us-saudi-arabia-jamal-khashoggi-missing-pompeo-erdogan-mbs-a8588351.html

The only coverup here is the Trump’s administration involvement with the Saudis in this crime and the ensuing cover story,

Wed, 2018-10-17 05:37

(Reply to #243) #244

josh

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Its clear that Putin must be involved in this murder.

Not his style.

Wed, 2018-10-17 08:33

#245

lagatta4

I do suspect Kropotkin was being facetious...

Wed, 2018-10-17 09:13

#246

NDPP

I hope people here will try to focus on the issue of Canadian participation and make some effort to express themelves to their representatives on the boycott of Saudi. Like Canada's support for Israeli criminality, this arms trading to the Saudis is a most disgusting involvement that needs to end.

Wed, 2018-10-17 09:21

#247

NDPP

Yemen Observer: Canadian IAG Guardian

https://twitter.com/anthonyfenton/status/1052005635871539200

"If this is in fact, an IAG Guardian, it would represent the fourth Canadian armored vehicle company found contributing to the Saudi Coalition's war on Yemen. In addition to GDLS-C, the Streit Group, and Terradyne."

G7 Foreign Ministers' Statement on Disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi

https://twitter.com/anthonyfenton/status/1052340922904539137

"The only time that Canada condemned a Saudi-led bombing of civlians in Yemen (in Oct. 2016) they said: 'The Saudi-led coalition must move forward now in its commitment to investigate this incident."

Wed, 2018-10-17 09:54

(Reply to #247) #248

josh

lagatta4 wrote:

I do suspect Kropotkin was being facetious...

As was I.

Wed, 2018-10-17 09:54

(Reply to #248) #249

WWWTT

josh wrote:

The guy was writing for the Washington Post. That’s why it’s a big deal for the media.

As for Turkey, they get something out of it because, if they play ball, and don’t make a big stink, both the Saudis and U.S. will owe them. Not to mention the positive publicity they’ll get in the western media for “unveiling” the murder.

The only coverup here is the Trump’s administration involvement with the Saudis in this crime and the ensuing cover story,

Ya I don't think you're reading my comment and just projecting. It's the corporate media that's making this an issue.

Wed, 2018-10-17 09:55

(Reply to #249) #250

josh

NDPP wrote:

I hope people here will try to focus on the issue of Canadian participation and make some effort to express themelves to their representatives on the boycott of Saudi. Like Canada's support for Israeli criminality, this arms trading to the Saudis is a most disgusting involvement that needs to end.

There's already a thread for that.

http://www.rabble.ca/babble/international-news-and-politics/saudis-retaliate-after-canada-criticizes-human-rights

Wed, 2018-10-17 17:09

#251

NDPP

Audio Tapes Reveal Saudi Journalist 'Decapitated': Turkish Daily

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/tapes-show-journal...

"...Khashoggi's alleged killer tortured the journalist during interrogation by cutting his fingers off, Yeni Safak said, claiming it had heard multiple recordings of the incident. The newspaper said Khashoggi, a Washington Post contributor, was then decapitated. According to Yeni Safa, Saudi Arabia's consul to Istanbul, Mohammed al Otaibi, can be heard on one tape saying during Khashoggi's torture, 'Do this outside. You are going to get me in trouble.' The daily reported that in another tape, an unknown individual tells Otaibi: 'If you want to live when you come to Saudi Arabia, be quiet..."

Saudi's Stonewall on Khashoggi But Pressure Will Increase

http://moonofalabama.org/2018/10/saudis-stonewall.html

"The most interesting aspect of the botched assassination of Jamal Khashoggi is the insight into political conflicts of US domestic and international policies. As Erdogan continues the drip by drip release of sensational evidence and the Washington Post piles on, Trump will have to do something more than sending Pompeo for useless talks. Stopping all US support for the war on Yemen would be a good start. But it would not be enough. MbS needs to be removed..."

Boycott / sanction Saudi Arabia!

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