Justin Trudeau Apologizes to Jews, Brownoses Israel, Condemns BDS
https://twitter.com/mbueckert/status/1060277153835745283
"During an apology for Canada's past rejection of Jewish refugees, Justin Trudeau pivoted to condemn BDS, equating it with hate crimes and violence. He used Canada's history of white supremacy to throw Palestinians under the bus..."
Justin Trudeau's apology became instead an unpleasant, repugnant embarrassment and a national disgrace.
Jewish students still feel unwelcome and uncomfortable on some of our college and university campuses because of BDS-related intimidation.
And out of our entire community of nations, it is Israel whose right to exist is most widely – and wrongly – questioned.
I have no words.
I wonder how Justin would respond to THIS song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RI8U9Wt4yI
IJV: Disgusted But Not Surprised...
https://twitter.com/IndJewishVoices/status/1060521757755564032
"Disgusted but not surprised to see this. How dare Justin Trudeau weaponize harms done to the Jewish community to justify ongoing violence against Palestinians. This is an insult to all who stand for human rights..."
Justin Trudeau Apologizes to Jews, Brownoses Israel, Condemns BDS
https://twitter.com/mbueckert/status/1060277153835745283
"During an apology for Canada's past rejection of Jewish refugees, Justin Trudeau pivoted to condemn BDS, equating it with hate crimes and violence. He used Canada's history of white supremacy to throw Palestinians under the bus..."
Justin Trudeau's apology became instead an unpleasant, repugnant embarrassment and a national disgrace.
Never heard anything about Canada's white supremacy in that short clip. But holy f*@&# you see all the MP's wearing a poppy?!?!?!?
With Our Apologies: Canada Makes 'I'm Sorry' A Recurring Policy
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/komagata-maru-official-apologies-1.3587870
"Justin Trudeau, speaking in that earnest cadence of his, rose in the Commons Wednesday and, speaking on behalf of all Canadians, apologized for an event no living Canadian had anything to do with.
When the British do say 'I'm sorry' they use it most often as a question, and rather archly at that. Americans hardly use the phrase at all, especially officially.
Canadians though, have a different history. They tend to say I'm sorry constantly, which is perhaps why there have been so many official apologies from Ottawa..." (2016)
I have a saying "if you were really sorry, you wouldn't have done it in the first place"
Now Justin wasn't alive when all the things he's apologized for happened, but he sure as hell is benefiting from "white" Canadians past crimes!
All he has to do is say "i'm sorry" and all of a suden, the CBC will write good things about you and you get tons of free media spotlight!
I'm telling you NDPP, this guys a corporate media circus freek side show! He has no morals!
So, what's MacDonald's point? That Canada would be better off adopting the unapologetic, devil-may-care attitude of the nations that fired people out of cannons and dropped nukes on cities?
CJPME: Trudeau Smear on BDS Totally Inappropriate
http://www.cjpme.org/pr_2018_11_08
"Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CJPME) is surprised and disappointed by Prime Minister Trudeau's smear on Canadians who support the peaceful boycott, divestment and sanctions movement against Israel known as BDS..."
[quote=WWWTT]
All he has to do is say "i'm sorry" and all of a suden, the CBC will write good things about you and you get tons of free media spotlight!
I'm telling you NDPP, this guys a corporate media circus freek side show! He has no morals!
[quote=NDPP]
He represents Canada. Where virtue-signalling, much more than virtue-practicing, is all the rage.
All he has to do is say "i'm sorry" and all of a suden, the CBC will write good things about you and you get tons of free media spotlight!
Did you read the CBC piece that's linked? If so, did you notice how it's not actually praising him, and is if anything questioning why such an apology was necessary?
apologized for an event no living Canadian had anything to do with.
That's a pretty common response whenever someone starts talking about apologies or reparations for historical incidents.
PM Fork-Tongue: This week Jews. Last week Tsilhqot'in
So, what's MacDonald's point? That Canada would be better off adopting the unapologetic, devil-may-care attitude of the nations that fired people out of cannons and dropped nukes on cities?
Dont kid yourself! If there were far fewer voting Indians in Canada, Justin wouldn’t be jeopardizing far right “white” votes.
Also remember, these things happened long time ago, so what was wrong with apologizing for something that happened 100 years ago say like 50 years ago?
But hey, when the thin veil covering Canadian colonial imperialism starts to flutter away, Trudea supporters can always say “When Canadian whites killed the non Europeans at least Justin apologized”
You also missed my point, Justin has no intention of giving up his privelage his ancestors killed for!
Exactly so. The 'hanging judge' Mathew Begbie had no more jurisdiction to preside beyond the treaty frontier than BC judges do today. No treaty equals no jurisdiction It was usurpation-as-genocide then and it continues today. Yet Trudeau 'exonerates'...
Get my drift?
WWWTT:
Sorry for the confusion. I wasn't responding to anything you wrote, I was responding to the MacDonald piece, and I guess by extension to NDPP, wondering why it was posted here, since it doesn't really connect to the theme of the thread.
The thread-topic is Trudeau exploiting an otherwise legitimate apology to take shots at Israel's critics. But MacDonald isn't complaining about apologies being misused, he seems to be saying that apologies aren't neccessary at all.
Apologies may be insincere or hypocritical, but they can be a first step, and something demanded by the descendants of groups that were treated unfairly, including denying them safe haven.
What is wrong is using the crime of non-assistance to people in imminent danger to justify Israel' mistreatment of the indigenous Palestinian population, and to criminalise those taking part in a non-violent movement against this. Including MANY Jewish people.
By the way, "virtue-signalling" is a rightwing term, like "snowflake".
By the way, "virtue-signalling" is a rightwing term
Specifically, rooted in sociobiology. The idea being that expressing progressive ideas is analagous to, say, male peacocks displaying their plumage to attract mates.
Lots of ways the government can apologize for its mistakes.
But the corporate media circus freek side show Justin Trudeau who is addicted to self promotion won’t let anyone else in the government get in his limelight.
I wish people would stop apologizing for this sad clown!
Or tomcats marking their territory...
By the way, "virtue-signalling" is a rightwing term
Specifically, rooted in sociobiology. The idea being that expressing progressive ideas is analagous to, say, male peacocks displaying their plumage to attract mates.
[quote=NDPP]
Fascinating. Thanks, I'll add it to the list of things I'm not supposed to say.
But the corporate media circus freek side show Justin Trudeau who is addicted to self promotion won’t let anyone else in the government get in his limelight.
I wish people would stop apologizing for this sad clown!
It's obvious to one and all that Justin is a freaky circus side show loser!! During the last election Stephen Harper was even overheard saying, "Fancy Socks has a better chance of performing for Cirque du Soleil in Las Vegas than he does of beating me and winning this election!!!"
It's obvious to one and all that Justin is a freaky circus side show loser!! During the last election Stephen Harper was even overheard saying, "Fancy Socks has a better chance of performing for Cirque du Soleil in Las Vegas than he does of beating me and winning this election!!!"But the corporate media circus freek side show Justin Trudeau who is addicted to self promotion won’t let anyone else in the government get in his limelight.
I wish people would stop apologizing for this sad clown!
And boy, Harper knew what he was talking ab- well, sort of-uh...
Some Indigenous activists I know call him "Handsome Harper" .
Some Indigenous activists I know call him "Handsome Harper" .
Thanks, this should throw off the red neck trolls for a bit.
Some of his amorous fans call him "handsome, and some!"
Some Indigenous activists I know call him "Handsome Harper" .
Thanks, this should throw off the red neck trolls for a bit.
Those red necks won't know what hit em' when Trudeau loses the next election and has to join Ringling Brothers just to get a job!!!
By the way, "virtue-signalling" is a rightwing term
Specifically, rooted in sociobiology. The idea being that expressing progressive ideas is analagous to, say, male peacocks displaying their plumage to attract mates.
Fascinating. Thanks, I'll add it to the list of things I'm not supposed to say.
Say whatever you want. Just don't be surprised if people make certain assumptions about your ideological leanings based on your choice of terminology.
By the way, the Guardian has an interesting series about the 80th anniversary of the Kindertransport:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/series/the-kindertransport-at-80
Do you know that CBC correspondent Joe Schlesinger was one of the Kinder? And that he is still alive, at 90?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nicholas-winton-the-man-who-saved-children...
JKR wrote
Those red necks won't know what hit em' when Trudeau loses the next election and has to join Ringling Brothers just to get a job!!!
If you’re suggesting that all Justin has to do is maintain his corporate media circus freek side show status by exploiting SOME SELLECTED errors of past Canadian governments, and not let anyone else in the government apologize, then ya, he should do just fine in an democratic election as defined by an imperialist country.
Embassy of Israel
https://twitter.com/IsraelinCanada/status/1060328083625033728
"Thank you Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for your important address today in the House of Commons, your strong words against antisemitism including BDS, and your continued support for the State of Israel."
For a total boycott now.
If you’re suggesting that all Justin has to do is maintain his corporate media circus freek side show status by exploiting SOME SELLECTED errors of past Canadian governments, and not let anyone else in the government apologize, then ya, he should do just fine in an democratic election as defined by an imperialist country.
Handsome Harper"s government committed errors?? Who knew???
First, apologies are not meaningless. They are an official record that the government admits that it has done wrong. Yes, there are a lot of them and over time the government has to reduce this - not by apologizing less - but by doing less harm.
The problem with the apologies is not that there are too many or that they should not be made but the hypocrisy of apologizing while still behaving badly. Perhaps the apologies to the Jewish community are fine from the PM who I do not think has anything to be ashamed of in terms of anti-semetic actions. However, his apologies to indigenous people are problematic since he has not kept promises to them and they still suffer from the government he leads. He should not apologise to them before taking the effort to fix his own government actions.
Handsome Harper"s government committed errors?? Who knew???If you’re suggesting that all Justin has to do is maintain his corporate media circus freek side show status by exploiting SOME SELLECTED errors of past Canadian governments, and not let anyone else in the government apologize, then ya, he should do just fine in an democratic election as defined by an imperialist country.
Guarantee you of one fact, Justin will never apologize for any mistakes he’s made.
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[quote=Sean in Ottawa]
Perhaps the apologies to the Jewish community are fine from the PM who I do not think has anything to be ashamed of in terms of anti-semetic actions.
[quote=NDPP]
Perhaps not so fine according to some members of the Jewish community. And given that Palestinians are Semites too, arguably he fails by your own criterion there as well.
IJV: 'Disgusted but not surprised...'
https://twitter.com/IndJewishVoices/status/1060521757755564032
Handsome Harper"s government committed errors?? Who knew???If you’re suggesting that all Justin has to do is maintain his corporate media circus freek side show status by exploiting SOME SELLECTED errors of past Canadian governments, and not let anyone else in the government apologize, then ya, he should do just fine in an democratic election as defined by an imperialist country.
Guarantee you of one fact, Justin will never apologize for any mistakes he’s made.
A politician apologizes for their mustakes?!? Has that ever happened? How many Canadian political leaders have apologized for their mistakes?
Bingo JKR! The one apology JT will never make...
Why single out JT? Why should we expect him to have a higher standard than all of our other politicians?
True enough.
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Why single out JT? Why should we expect him to have a higher standard than all of our other politicians?
Because of all the times he's shed crocodile tears while making pro-forma apologies. It seems to me that being Canadian means always having to say your sorry but no one likes it when you are still doing the same thing while emoting an apology.
Why single out JT? Why should we expect him to have a higher standard than all of our other politicians?Because of all the times he's shed crocodile tears while making pro-forma apologies. It seems to me that being Canadian means always having to say your sorry but no one likes it when you are still doing the same thing while emoting an apology.
Yeah, that does tend to look like "act first-apologize later" behavior.
Suzanne Berliner Weiss, who was a "hidden child" in occupied France, speaks out against Trudeau's stance against BDS.
I have a friend in France, of Italian-Jewish origin, whose family actually fled to officially-fascist Italy and managed to "hide in plain sight" with a certificate of "Aryanity". She is active in UJFP, the French equivalent of IJV.
Thanks for highlighting the article lagatta4. I read it when it first appeared and found it a good!
TRNN: Canada's Trudeau Attacks BDS, Joins Trump & Israel Blaming 'Both Sides' For Anti-Semitism (and vid)
"While apologizing for Canada's shameful betrayal for Jewish refugees fleeing the Nazi Holocaust, Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau attacked the Palestinian rights movement BDS. Ali Abunimah discusses..."
